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31. Where does 'citizen' come into the first amendment?

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:00 PM

Dec 2015

It's about laws; and the legal take on it is about government regulations in general (which is why public schools have to take it into account for religion, even though that's not about legislation).

Though a Trump spokesman did at first say it would also apply to American Muslim citizens who went abroad and then wanted to return to their country. When it was pointed out this would include Muslims serving in the military and sent abroad by their country, Trump said he'd make an exception for them; what he'd do to Muslim Americans not in the military is still unclear, as far as I know.

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Sadness, shame and blame at Yale over First Amendment repeal video [View all] Tab Dec 2015 OP

This is truly frightening. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #1

I'm appalled. My grandchildren are of this generation virgogal Dec 2015 #2

....x10+ 840high Dec 2015 #34

Aren't "safe spaces" themselves against the idea of the First Amendment? 4lbs Dec 2015 #3

I see study areas as a safe place where disruption could be forbidden. alfredo Dec 2015 #35

As truly awful as the idea of aboloshing the First Amendment is, cheapdate Dec 2015 #4

Whatever happened to the best remedy for hate speech being more speech? (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #5

My example of that is above. One voice dominated to the point where all others were silenced. alfredo Dec 2015 #36

I'd rather deal with those things christx30 Dec 2015 #7

Thank you. crim son Dec 2015 #9

What do you propose as an alternative? christx30 Dec 2015 #11

We used to have an FCC rule.. cannabis_flower Dec 2015 #63

The Fairness Doctrine is a dinosaur of a bygone era with the advent of GGJohn Dec 2015 #67

There are plenty.. cannabis_flower Dec 2015 #69

Almost everyone has at least basic cable these days, of which the FCC has no authority over, GGJohn Dec 2015 #70

A bygone era when and only when broadcast networks no longer exist. LanternWaste Dec 2015 #71

My point stands, and even if they reinstated the FD, GGJohn Dec 2015 #73

At some point, blatant lies disguised as news should become fraud Taitertots Dec 2015 #65

Glad you're not in charge. Oneironaut Dec 2015 #22

privilege allows a much greater latitude of speech. LanternWaste Dec 2015 #72

Free speech protects speech you don't like because somebody doesn't like your speech Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2015 #24

I'm with you. cheapdate Dec 2015 #25

+1 Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2015 #40

Bullshit it's all about silencing anyone with a different opinion. Leontius Dec 2015 #42

this is utterly disgusting. apparently, none of those nitwits read voltaire: niyad Dec 2015 #6

Voltaire didn't write that, however muriel_volestrangler Dec 2015 #8

Did Fox News get worried by Trump wanting to break the 1st Amendment muriel_volestrangler Dec 2015 #10

While reprehensible TeddyR Dec 2015 #26

It does melm00se Dec 2015 #29

Where does 'citizen' come into the first amendment? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2015 #31

Yeah.... NO. Adrahil Dec 2015 #51

The Founders thought of them as the "rights of mankind" treestar Dec 2015 #64

Many times its not popular HERE. nt 7962 Dec 2015 #38

First Amendment does not apply to immigration/visa decisions. Yo_Mama Dec 2015 #46

Why do you think it would not apply? metalbot Dec 2015 #47

That's what its come to huh? philosslayer Dec 2015 #12

Not To Mention The Involvement of Horowitz ProfessorGAC Dec 2015 #30

These things happen to both sides all the time. Ever watch Jimmy Kimmel? 7962 Dec 2015 #39

It's Horowitz ProfessorGAC Dec 2015 #52

Yes, I was simply pointing out that a LOT of people do these silly things. 7962 Dec 2015 #53

Got Ya! ProfessorGAC Dec 2015 #58

My thoughts too. Saw FN & Horowitz and thought oh I already see what they want from this piece Person 2713 Dec 2015 #45

Call me a Pollyanna, but... turbo_satan Dec 2015 #13

+1!!!!!! Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #15

that's a very strong possibility here--many people don't read before signing anything MisterP Dec 2015 #28

Odd vorgan24 Dec 2015 #14

Fox News does a hit piece on unAmerican behavior of Ivy League students, and DUers gulp it down. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #18

fox news? Skittles Dec 2015 #16

2nd Amendment lobodons Dec 2015 #17

You are kidding, right? Ms. Yertle Dec 2015 #23

George W. Bush Skittles Dec 2015 #43

From Horowitz's Youtube page - lynne Dec 2015 #19

A almost hour long video... vorgan24 Dec 2015 #21

A lot of quick cuts in that vid. A lot of voiceover work too. Demit Dec 2015 #41

50 signatures in about an hour. EL34x4 Dec 2015 #20

Fox news the right wing extremist mouth piece rockfordfile Dec 2015 #27

How did these idiots get into Yale? NaturalHigh Dec 2015 #32

And I thought Yale was supposed to be liberal one, and Harvard the conservative one Tab Dec 2015 #33

Uh, no ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2015 #57

Well, George W Bush went to Yale JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2015 #37

See some of the other responses artradley Dec 2015 #50

Didn't Penn and Teller do pretty much the same thing? NobodyHere Dec 2015 #44

That was a ban on dihydrogen monoxide... TipTok Dec 2015 #48

There's was another petition NobodyHere Dec 2015 #56

Loved that show... TipTok Dec 2015 #60

Folks - this is a fake artradley Dec 2015 #49

It was done by Fox News so it must be true and we can quickly go right to bemoaning and debating GreatGazoo Dec 2015 #66

how do we know this isn't some okeefe type thing JI7 Dec 2015 #54

I'll wait and see a full, unedited video with sound before passing judgement... Blue_Tires Dec 2015 #55

Reasonable position to take PersonNumber503602 Dec 2015 #68

If it was presented the right way, I could see this petition as being quite popular among many hughee99 Dec 2015 #59

BINGO! Homepage article today on http://jurist.org/forum/ by Mary Holland on the very subject. proverbialwisdom Dec 2015 #61

Anything done by Horowitz is suspect. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #62