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MADem

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45. Clinton called for an independent audit the other day.

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 07:29 AM

Dec 2015

Her team was well out in front of this. So of course I feel the same way.

The theft of that modeling data was serious enough that three people, thus far, have been fired. This wasn't a "small thing" and it sure as hell wasn't someone probing the system for high-minded reasons. Those excuses are "no longer operative" to quote one of the most shameless spinmeisters of all time, Ron Zeigler.

Sanders realizes that some of his people acted without integrity and honor, and he has taken steps to correct that. This tells me that HE is a man of honor, even if some of his staffers are a bit sleazy. I do feel better about him, given that he fessed up, apologized, and did the right thing. I am quite confident that if anyone was giving staffers direction to steal that modeling data and run those keyword searches, it was NOT Sanders, himself.

I hope his supporters take a hint, and follow his lead.

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Sanders camp suspends two more staffers over data breach [View all] Historic NY Dec 2015 OP

But I thought they did nothing wrong. RandySF Dec 2015 #1

I remember back in the 70s when some folks broke into Democratic HQ to take data Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2015 #2

Yeah, and I thought they were exaggerating the first night when they compared this to Cha Dec 2015 #10

But Nobody Broke In To Anything Here DallasNE Dec 2015 #12

more like peering thru binoculars then taking photographs as well nt msongs Dec 2015 #13

More like stealing a UPS package on a front porch Hortensis Dec 2015 #92

Some data was apparantly taken. Some staffers were fired and suspended Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2015 #18

Sounds like they need to change vendors. n/t patricia92243 Dec 2015 #40

Ya well the DNC can get on that one. Not. glinda Dec 2015 #76

No need to make an under blown one either eom MyNameGoesHere Dec 2015 #52

That's a poor excuse for .... PosterChild Dec 2015 #53

Not Defending What Sanders Staffers Did DallasNE Dec 2015 #86

You are right, this is no Watergate. eom PosterChild Dec 2015 #88

You mean what 3 staffers did - Bernie was not involved at all. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #98

You might want to ... PosterChild Dec 2015 #107

Sorry, I must be illiterate. Whatever you say. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #108

In this post and in others.... PosterChild Dec 2015 #109

There is no allegation that Sanders campaign hacked. Or cheated to get into thr JDPriestly Dec 2015 #20

OK. They didn't hack. If you leave your door open, is it OK for strangers to enter and look around? Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2015 #24

Not only enter and look around, but also steal the grocery money from the counter. Squinch Dec 2015 #83

I used to work with databases. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #101

Can we look at the same logs and see if HRC people looked at Bernie data? Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #99

This has to be thoroughly investigated by an independent committee or agency. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #102

That's what I think 100%. The firewall controls access both ways so it would have been down for HRC. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #104

And I remember back in 2008 when somebody inappropriately accessed Barack Obama's data notadmblnd Dec 2015 #26

Hillary isn't outraged. She was fine with Sanders' apology. Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2015 #28

As he said he would. notadmblnd Dec 2015 #37

Ask David Plouffe Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2015 #49

The Clinton camp should be careful when accusing others of doing what they've done. notadmblnd Dec 2015 #73

Well, he did run a winning Presidential campaign for Barack Obama in 2008 Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2015 #77

I have been unable to find any record that happened in 2008 LiberalFighter Dec 2015 #69

Perhaps take a few moments and read a few threads? notadmblnd Dec 2015 #72

"there's plenty of documentation here. " yellowcanine Dec 2015 #106

I'm thinking he's taking charge.. Historic NY Dec 2015 #3

A cynic might suggest that staffers got caught, and are now taking the fall for the boss Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2015 #4

The first rule of Sanders support alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #5

Exactly. How dare you? Cha Dec 2015 #8

You think the senator was sifting through the database? Not fucking likely. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #14

The Senator? Hell no - that's why he hires staffers. Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2015 #19

Knock it off. WIProgressive88 Dec 2015 #63

Please, stop with the immaturity and divisiveness. tabasco Dec 2015 #64

They are not accused of hacking into Hillary's infi. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #22

Making excuses and playing the victum is not helpful. eom PosterChild Dec 2015 #56

I'm a Hillary supporter, but I don;t believe that. Adrahil Dec 2015 #96

I'm willing to accept the apology and move on Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2015 #103

As I said he has to clean up the mess. joshcryer Dec 2015 #6

If the fire wall had been properly maintained by the vendor, Bernie's team could JDPriestly Dec 2015 #23

It doesn't matter. They did query the data Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2015 #25

Blaming others and playing the victum . ... PosterChild Dec 2015 #54

That the behavior of one of Sanders' employees was unacceptable to Sanders does not mean JDPriestly Dec 2015 #90

Ultimately , the only thing that protects the integrity of a system.... PosterChild Dec 2015 #91

You mean Debbie Wasserman-Schultz who had to quickly back down from her draconian JDPriestly Dec 2015 #93

No, I mean . ... PosterChild Dec 2015 #94

Debbie Wasserman-Schultlz hired a contractor or vendor to provide security for the candidates' JDPriestly Dec 2015 #95

You are not only beating a dead horse.... PosterChild Dec 2015 #97

Hillary supporters would love to move on. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #100

Fine. Keep banging your head against the wall. LOL/EOM PosterChild Dec 2015 #105

That's what they're trying to push but it's just not working. Cha Dec 2015 #7

I was just about to say that, you beat me to it. If nothing wrong was done, why did Sanders.... George II Dec 2015 #67

But wait! This is all a conspiracy between Clinton and Debbie Wasserman-Shultz! Tarc Dec 2015 #9

Yep shenmue Dec 2015 #51

This Is What Bothers Some Of Us About Hillary DallasNE Dec 2015 #11

What does that have to do with the OP? Squinch Dec 2015 #84

It wasn't a 'technology glitch' blackspade Dec 2015 #15

Is it still all Clinton's fault? murielm99 Dec 2015 #16

They are.. I'm not. They were pissed there weren't enough debates but Hill has won everyone Cha Dec 2015 #21

It doesn't give the names of the "staffers".. wonder if it's any of these snoopers.. Cha Dec 2015 #17

If the vendor had properly secured the data and maintained the firewall, the queries could not JDPriestly Dec 2015 #27

"If the car owner ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #33

You got that right. LiberalFighter Dec 2015 #70

Excuses for obviously unethical behavior and.... PosterChild Dec 2015 #57

Sanders staffers outright stole the data and used it to their advantage. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2015 #31

Yes, The sanders team Sabotaged their own campaign.. fell on their own petard and now BS has Fired Cha Dec 2015 #34

The "drip.... drip.... drip....." is killing him. Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #29

Precisely. NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #30

Agree.. BS handled this poorly. Cha Dec 2015 #35

He has handled other things poorly. murielm99 Dec 2015 #38

Exactly.. it's in a long line of not having good instincts for what it takes to be POTUS. Cha Dec 2015 #39

+10 !! (NT) PosterChild Dec 2015 #58

The Sanders campaign is correct to suspend these people. Blue_In_AK Dec 2015 #32

"Where there's smoke". If I didn't trust BS before, this certainly hasn't improved my opinion. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2015 #36

HRC and IT Bernin Dec 2015 #41

I think that lawsuit will result in those fired staffers being charged with computer fraud/hacking MADem Dec 2015 #43

Any legal action taken by Bernie will be detremental.... PosterChild Dec 2015 #59

At least Senator SANDERS knows what the right thing to do is, here. And firing is the right thing MADem Dec 2015 #42

Prudent Bernin Dec 2015 #44

Clinton called for an independent audit the other day. MADem Dec 2015 #45

Coming up on 48 hours now. Bernin Dec 2015 #46

First of all the DNC owns the drives so of course they have been secured. leftofcool Dec 2015 #47

So, Bernin Dec 2015 #48

The independent investigation is going on now. It's probably why those two other guys on Sanders' MADem Dec 2015 #50

Almost everybody uses NGP Van Orangepeel Dec 2015 #60

Holly shit! So all of those entities . .. PosterChild Dec 2015 #62

He waited too long to get any credit for doing the right thing. KittyWampus Dec 2015 #80

I thought his apology was heartfelt. It was a bit delayed, but I did think he meant it. MADem Dec 2015 #82

I have a hunch okasha Dec 2015 #87

Really........................... turbinetree Dec 2015 #55

Playing the victim and making excuses is .... PosterChild Dec 2015 #61

What would you have Sanders do? potone Dec 2015 #74

I would expect him to do this: PosterChild Dec 2015 #81

That goddamned Debbie! Why does she keep lording it over us? randome Dec 2015 #65

The breach in data was the best thing that has happened to Sanders lately. As an undecided patricia92243 Dec 2015 #66

There needs to a full and complete accounting here Gothmog Dec 2015 #68

There is. LiberalFighter Dec 2015 #71

This is a matter of character, and Sen. Sanders has good character The Second Stone Dec 2015 #75

I totally agree with your assessment. CTyankee Dec 2015 #79

Sanders himself, has handled this well etherealtruth Dec 2015 #78

I totally agree. Squinch Dec 2015 #85

kick Dawson Leery Dec 2015 #89