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coyote

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68. No conspiracy needed

Fri Dec 25, 2015, 12:21 AM

Dec 2015

If you cannot see that the entire machine is rigged for Clinton, then you are a fool. With that said, I will also enjoy your meltdown in the General. Merry Christmas!

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CNN poll: Post-debate, voters move to Clinton [View all] riversedge Dec 2015 OP

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Oh phantom dennis, no one can see you to begin with, why fear the hide? JackInGreen Dec 2015 #2

I didm't see the first two debates but the 3rd debate underthematrix Dec 2015 #3

Really? Considering this? Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #5

I thought the Libyan strategy was a collaborative effort with underthematrix Dec 2015 #8

This is exactly right.... PosterChild Dec 2015 #17

This was one of Bush's arguments for invading Iraq. EndElectoral Dec 2015 #22

I think it has been established Bush underthematrix Dec 2015 #44

Regardless, point being the MSM is not asking the kinds of questions we need.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #28

I don't watch any of the cable news outlets underthematrix Dec 2015 #45

It was network TV. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #46

I see what you mean. you are speaking of shows like Meet the Press. underthematrix Dec 2015 #48

I get more in five minutes of reading than any show can present in an hour. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #50

That's my my feeling too. The MSM tries to shape the narrative without providing all the facts. underthematrix Dec 2015 #60

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #13

So you are in favor of military regime change in Syria? EndElectoral Dec 2015 #19

President Obama just a few days ago talked about a POLITICAL solution underthematrix Dec 2015 #59

Did they poll cell phones this time? Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #4

Yes, and reputable polls, such as this one, always do. eom PosterChild Dec 2015 #18

I read that it's illegal for polling firms to call cell phones. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #24

not unless.. getagrip_already Dec 2015 #26

I mean according to the telecommunications act of '93.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #30

The reason we keep hearing that young people don't vote is because... PosterChild Dec 2015 #58

The polls say that. Right? Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #63

I don't think it's strictly a polling qustion, it's more of a... PosterChild Dec 2015 #64

Here is a Census Bureau study that examines this question.... PosterChild Dec 2015 #65

When young people vote the Republicans lose.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #67

My understanding is that the do not call list... PosterChild Dec 2015 #57

Not true, the law require that ceĺl numbers.... PosterChild Dec 2015 #55

One thing they used to do was call 50% rural and 50% urban and report a 50/50 result. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #56

So losing 12% to your opponent means voters are moving to you? Tiggeroshii Dec 2015 #6

CNN? MJJP21 Dec 2015 #7

They did...over at the Free Republic. McCamy Taylor Dec 2015 #12

Exactly. Odd that a newbie would use it here at Democratic Underground. BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #52

According to Republicans, yes. Where did you hear it? eom BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #53

Mind you, she lost 8 percentage points among her core supporters: registered democrats. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #9

No, she didn't. Not by the last two days. Her support went UP after the debates. pnwmom Dec 2015 #10

I don't see that data in the CNN Poll PDF. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #27

Same methodology as the overall poll. I read somewhere yesterday that pnwmom Dec 2015 #33

Assuming that it was a representative sample polled overnight. That has never been claimed or proven JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #34

Of course it's a representative sample. It was the same ORC study, pnwmom Dec 2015 #35

Nope. A subsample is not always a representative sample. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #36

But random studies are random. They don't poll all males on the first pnwmom Dec 2015 #37

How do you know that they used same methodology each day? Please defend your assertion. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #38

They couldn't say their WHOLE poll was random sampled pnwmom Dec 2015 #39

I do understand random sampling, thanks. But if you have no sources on subsample methodology, JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #40

You can call ORC and ask them. Or you can simply wait and see what pnwmom Dec 2015 #41

I don't doubt that CNN is accurately reporting. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #42

They are trying to make this the poll relevent to the debate , BUT... PosterChild Dec 2015 #20

Interesting observations. Thanks. eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #70

Yeah Right...... INdemo Dec 2015 #11

Boy, CNN has a very misleading headline there... cannabis_flower Dec 2015 #14

"...sounds more like it should have read 'CNN poll: Post-debate, voters move to Sanders'." KansDem Dec 2015 #15

I have come to the understanding that SmittynMo Dec 2015 #16

Right Waitsman Dec 2015 #69

She always does well after debates lunamagica Dec 2015 #21

Except when she talks. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #25

Aww, you are so clever! lunamagica Dec 2015 #29

Of course ... november3rd Dec 2015 #23

So she lost 8 points and Bernie gained 4.... And that's a win for her? hedda_foil Dec 2015 #31

Dhe affectively LOST 12 points. Not sure how that is votersnmoving toward her. Tiggeroshii Dec 2015 #49

Nice! ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #32

Absolute lie of a title by CNN Reter Dec 2015 #43

No it's not. Read the article. The OP failed to include a key paragraph. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #47

Leave out anything that's not favorable to Bernie redstateblues Dec 2015 #54

. Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #51

This will be a moment this little girl never forgets and riversedge Dec 2015 #61

This might be one of those moments that we look back on and say "It changed the CTyankee Dec 2015 #72

Yes we are suppose to believe coyote Dec 2015 #62

I don't want you to believe it. TekGryphon Dec 2015 #66

No conspiracy needed coyote Dec 2015 #68

lovely riversedge Dec 2015 #71