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Lizzie Poppet

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50. That happens because you DID say something wrong.

Sat Dec 26, 2015, 02:43 PM

Dec 2015

That you don't recognize that is frankly astonishing.

Of course I'm liable to start mocking gun advocates when their kids die

Bet you wouldn't do it to their face, would you? That's a benchmark you should consider adopting: if you're contemplating saying something that you'd never say to someone's face (because you know you'd get your teeth smashed down your throat), you probably shouldn't say it at all.

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Sandy Hook victims to share $1.5 mn from shooter's mother's estate [View all] onehandle Dec 2015 OP

won't bring the kids back restorefreedom Dec 2015 #1

She did get him help. He had therapy. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #7

he did? wonder what the therapist would have said about the guns restorefreedom Dec 2015 #10

The mother cried out for help for years... but they didn't do anything ... we have a big secondwind Dec 2015 #17

not to pile on the dead woman restorefreedom Dec 2015 #18

Frankly, she had enough money to get him any kind of psych help Nay Dec 2015 #26

I once read what set him off... jmowreader Dec 2015 #22

exactly. sometimes i think the gun people don't think restorefreedom Dec 2015 #25

I remember reading that she itcfish Dec 2015 #60

That's incorrect Lurks Often Dec 2015 #61

Her idea of therapy was to stockpile weapons. RandySF Dec 2015 #87

yup. sounds like a lousy treatment modality....oh yeah...its nuts!! restorefreedom Dec 2015 #101

How is the mother's estate liable? He killed her too. rug Dec 2015 #2

Probably due to the negligent manner in which she made firearms available to her alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #4

Ok, that would make sense. rug Dec 2015 #11

I believe it is the people who had their small children murdered by a mentally ill alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #12

Let me gess - for negligence? rug Dec 2015 #14

I would think so alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #15

Didn't he kill her first? Estate then went to him. TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #19

He wouldn't take because his inheritance was the result of his crime. rug Dec 2015 #20

True. Forgot about that! TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #21

Unclean hands doctrine. Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2015 #27

There was another son, older than Adam catrose Dec 2015 #85

what the heck. She should be liable even in causing her own death. trillion Dec 2015 #38

would be great if gun owners paid the cost mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #3

Why should I, as a firearm owner, GGJohn Dec 2015 #5

This. bigwillq Dec 2015 #16

It's the price of your freedom to own guns treestar Dec 2015 #23

not so sure. If a kid is going to die by firearms, you do deserve it to be yours before anyone trillion Dec 2015 #32

My child deserves to die because I own firearms? GGJohn Dec 2015 #33

Your child doesn't deserve to die at all. trillion Dec 2015 #34

So, again, my child should die because I own firearms? GGJohn Dec 2015 #35

So again, your child does NOT deserve to die. trillion Dec 2015 #36

Dude, that is some fucked up thinking. GGJohn Dec 2015 #37

EXCUSE ME, why should NON gun owners kids have to die by guns? trillion Dec 2015 #39

So lets hope that the Sandyhook forthemiddle Dec 2015 #42

1. It's not fair to any child. trillion Dec 2015 #43

and by the way, are you another gun owner who thinks people who don't have guns deserve to equally trillion Dec 2015 #44

I interpret things in such a way as to maintain the pretense of offense, too. LanternWaste Dec 2015 #62

Negligent Parental Supervision djg21 Dec 2015 #64

by supporting the 25,000 clustrfk of gun laws.... mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #67

yes you are responsible. because you support this violence. GGJohn Dec 2015 #72

Why should I, being childless, pay for the education of others' kids? anigbrowl Dec 2015 #86

Fine, then every citizen pays, not just firearm owners. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #89

Why do I, as a car owner, pay for other people's crashes? jberryhill Dec 2015 #100

We pay 229 billion a year because of gun violence to prop up a 12 billion dollar a year industry. onehandle Dec 2015 #6

Great stuff OH! pablo_marmol Dec 2015 #9

It"s Freedom, not Freedumb. GGJohn Dec 2015 #13

I think freedumb fits when it's unfettered access to a dangerous weapon. trillion Dec 2015 #46

Good stat! trillion Dec 2015 #45

completely agree.... mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #69

Yeah, good luck with that in the rural areas of the country. GGJohn Dec 2015 #76

The OP basically demonstrates that a negligent mother was at fault for Sandy Hook........ pablo_marmol Dec 2015 #8

But it's not the victim's fault treestar Dec 2015 #24

Agreed. And every time I mention out loud that I would prefer it were only the gunowners kids that trillion Dec 2015 #31

True and they should also admit they are willing to die treestar Dec 2015 #47

That happens because you DID say something wrong. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #50

Hey, have you read the posts and the attacks on these sandy hook parents because the gunnuts want to trillion Dec 2015 #52

So? Two wrongs don't make a right. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #54

Why shouldn't the gun owners pick up the tab? The gun owners are financially supporting the groups trillion Dec 2015 #41

FIRE THE GOP, SINK THE NRA, GUN CONTROL IS COMING mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #70

Uh huh, been hearing that same tune for over 20 years now. GGJohn Dec 2015 #78

you will be buying the beer on election night mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #80

Uh huh. GGJohn Dec 2015 #81

I would suspect it's more like the situation of buy more guns after the next mass shooting. trillion Dec 2015 #94

Agreed. In Seattle we have a tax on every bullet now and it goes to victims of violen crimes. trillion Dec 2015 #30

None of the money goes to the victims. That was never part of the plan. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #57

we need to run the bill that allowed mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #68

Victims have always been able to sue gun manufacturers. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #71

actually the bill that was blocked mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #73

That would be an excellent bill to block. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #74

face it joe mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #75

I am a big fan of the two-handed grip. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #77

not surprised mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #82

Ooooh, an insult. GGJohn Dec 2015 #83

Not surprised that is the best you have. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #92

You're actually afraid because you know what mgmaggiemg says is true. trillion Dec 2015 #96

You keep telling yourself that.... ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #104

..... GGJohn Dec 2015 #79

+10000 trillion Dec 2015 #99

I don't believe Hillary would do it. I've been following her since the mid nineties. In congress trillion Dec 2015 #95

trillion mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #102

I know all about Bernie and Guns, and I know a whole lost about Hillary and the war maching and the trillion Dec 2015 #103

"Collective guilt" is an ethically indefensible concept. (nm) Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #49

Yes, actually it is. trillion Dec 2015 #51

I concur on that assertion, for sure. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #53

collective guilt not ethically indefensible.... mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #66

For those who know how these suits work, ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #28

No. nt msanthrope Dec 2015 #29

OK, what preserves the estate after all this time? ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #55

Probably no will, my grandma's estate was in probate for 2 years to distribute it equally among... Humanist_Activist Dec 2015 #65

Chump change WhoIsNumberNone Dec 2015 #40

Mean while, Christmas morning a 2 yr old was shot in the face by her uncle cleaning his gun trillion Dec 2015 #48

If you believe the "cleaning" part.... ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #56

Reminds me of how the Israeli government goldent Dec 2015 #58

what does? Suing the estate of a mother who is at fault for the death of many by providing trillion Dec 2015 #97

NRA should be shelling out some itcfish Dec 2015 #59

Why? eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #63

There's this thing called the big picture. The NRA is responsible for lobbying for the lack of trillion Dec 2015 #98

And the manufacturer RandySF Dec 2015 #84

Protected from what? GGJohn Dec 2015 #88

No other industry has this protection that I'm aware of anigbrowl Dec 2015 #90

The airliner industry has the same protection as the firearm industry, GGJohn Dec 2015 #91

It has some similar immunities... anigbrowl Dec 2015 #93