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57. None of the money goes to the victims. That was never part of the plan.

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Sandy Hook victims to share $1.5 mn from shooter's mother's estate [View all] onehandle Dec 2015 OP

won't bring the kids back restorefreedom Dec 2015 #1

She did get him help. He had therapy. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #7

he did? wonder what the therapist would have said about the guns restorefreedom Dec 2015 #10

The mother cried out for help for years... but they didn't do anything ... we have a big secondwind Dec 2015 #17

not to pile on the dead woman restorefreedom Dec 2015 #18

Frankly, she had enough money to get him any kind of psych help Nay Dec 2015 #26

I once read what set him off... jmowreader Dec 2015 #22

exactly. sometimes i think the gun people don't think restorefreedom Dec 2015 #25

I remember reading that she itcfish Dec 2015 #60

That's incorrect Lurks Often Dec 2015 #61

Her idea of therapy was to stockpile weapons. RandySF Dec 2015 #87

yup. sounds like a lousy treatment modality....oh yeah...its nuts!! restorefreedom Dec 2015 #101

How is the mother's estate liable? He killed her too. rug Dec 2015 #2

Probably due to the negligent manner in which she made firearms available to her alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #4

Ok, that would make sense. rug Dec 2015 #11

I believe it is the people who had their small children murdered by a mentally ill alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #12

Let me gess - for negligence? rug Dec 2015 #14

I would think so alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #15

Didn't he kill her first? Estate then went to him. TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #19

He wouldn't take because his inheritance was the result of his crime. rug Dec 2015 #20

True. Forgot about that! TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #21

Unclean hands doctrine. Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2015 #27

There was another son, older than Adam catrose Dec 2015 #85

what the heck. She should be liable even in causing her own death. trillion Dec 2015 #38

would be great if gun owners paid the cost mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #3

Why should I, as a firearm owner, GGJohn Dec 2015 #5

This. bigwillq Dec 2015 #16

It's the price of your freedom to own guns treestar Dec 2015 #23

not so sure. If a kid is going to die by firearms, you do deserve it to be yours before anyone trillion Dec 2015 #32

My child deserves to die because I own firearms? GGJohn Dec 2015 #33

Your child doesn't deserve to die at all. trillion Dec 2015 #34

So, again, my child should die because I own firearms? GGJohn Dec 2015 #35

So again, your child does NOT deserve to die. trillion Dec 2015 #36

Dude, that is some fucked up thinking. GGJohn Dec 2015 #37

EXCUSE ME, why should NON gun owners kids have to die by guns? trillion Dec 2015 #39

So lets hope that the Sandyhook forthemiddle Dec 2015 #42

1. It's not fair to any child. trillion Dec 2015 #43

and by the way, are you another gun owner who thinks people who don't have guns deserve to equally trillion Dec 2015 #44

I interpret things in such a way as to maintain the pretense of offense, too. LanternWaste Dec 2015 #62

Negligent Parental Supervision djg21 Dec 2015 #64

by supporting the 25,000 clustrfk of gun laws.... mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #67

yes you are responsible. because you support this violence. GGJohn Dec 2015 #72

Why should I, being childless, pay for the education of others' kids? anigbrowl Dec 2015 #86

Fine, then every citizen pays, not just firearm owners. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #89

Why do I, as a car owner, pay for other people's crashes? jberryhill Dec 2015 #100

We pay 229 billion a year because of gun violence to prop up a 12 billion dollar a year industry. onehandle Dec 2015 #6

Great stuff OH! pablo_marmol Dec 2015 #9

It"s Freedom, not Freedumb. GGJohn Dec 2015 #13

I think freedumb fits when it's unfettered access to a dangerous weapon. trillion Dec 2015 #46

Good stat! trillion Dec 2015 #45

completely agree.... mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #69

Yeah, good luck with that in the rural areas of the country. GGJohn Dec 2015 #76

The OP basically demonstrates that a negligent mother was at fault for Sandy Hook........ pablo_marmol Dec 2015 #8

But it's not the victim's fault treestar Dec 2015 #24

Agreed. And every time I mention out loud that I would prefer it were only the gunowners kids that trillion Dec 2015 #31

True and they should also admit they are willing to die treestar Dec 2015 #47

That happens because you DID say something wrong. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #50

Hey, have you read the posts and the attacks on these sandy hook parents because the gunnuts want to trillion Dec 2015 #52

So? Two wrongs don't make a right. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #54

Why shouldn't the gun owners pick up the tab? The gun owners are financially supporting the groups trillion Dec 2015 #41

FIRE THE GOP, SINK THE NRA, GUN CONTROL IS COMING mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #70

Uh huh, been hearing that same tune for over 20 years now. GGJohn Dec 2015 #78

you will be buying the beer on election night mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #80

Uh huh. GGJohn Dec 2015 #81

I would suspect it's more like the situation of buy more guns after the next mass shooting. trillion Dec 2015 #94

Agreed. In Seattle we have a tax on every bullet now and it goes to victims of violen crimes. trillion Dec 2015 #30

None of the money goes to the victims. That was never part of the plan. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #57

we need to run the bill that allowed mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #68

Victims have always been able to sue gun manufacturers. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #71

actually the bill that was blocked mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #73

That would be an excellent bill to block. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #74

face it joe mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #75

I am a big fan of the two-handed grip. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #77

not surprised mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #82

Ooooh, an insult. GGJohn Dec 2015 #83

Not surprised that is the best you have. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #92

You're actually afraid because you know what mgmaggiemg says is true. trillion Dec 2015 #96

You keep telling yourself that.... ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #104

..... GGJohn Dec 2015 #79

+10000 trillion Dec 2015 #99

I don't believe Hillary would do it. I've been following her since the mid nineties. In congress trillion Dec 2015 #95

trillion mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #102

I know all about Bernie and Guns, and I know a whole lost about Hillary and the war maching and the trillion Dec 2015 #103

"Collective guilt" is an ethically indefensible concept. (nm) Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #49

Yes, actually it is. trillion Dec 2015 #51

I concur on that assertion, for sure. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #53

collective guilt not ethically indefensible.... mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #66

For those who know how these suits work, ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #28

No. nt msanthrope Dec 2015 #29

OK, what preserves the estate after all this time? ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #55

Probably no will, my grandma's estate was in probate for 2 years to distribute it equally among... Humanist_Activist Dec 2015 #65

Chump change WhoIsNumberNone Dec 2015 #40

Mean while, Christmas morning a 2 yr old was shot in the face by her uncle cleaning his gun trillion Dec 2015 #48

If you believe the "cleaning" part.... ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #56

Reminds me of how the Israeli government goldent Dec 2015 #58

what does? Suing the estate of a mother who is at fault for the death of many by providing trillion Dec 2015 #97

NRA should be shelling out some itcfish Dec 2015 #59

Why? eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #63

There's this thing called the big picture. The NRA is responsible for lobbying for the lack of trillion Dec 2015 #98

And the manufacturer RandySF Dec 2015 #84

Protected from what? GGJohn Dec 2015 #88

No other industry has this protection that I'm aware of anigbrowl Dec 2015 #90

The airliner industry has the same protection as the firearm industry, GGJohn Dec 2015 #91

It has some similar immunities... anigbrowl Dec 2015 #93