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82. Swing and a miss.

Reply to King_David (Reply #80)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:40 PM

Dec 2015

Also, hypocritical to hyperventilate about Mondoweiss but dismiss objections to rightwing publications.

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Report: U.S. Spying On Israel Swept Up Members Of Congress [View all] Purveyor Dec 2015 OP

Boo hoo. We should be monitoring governments trying to geek tragedy Dec 2015 #1

I would hope that we are monitoring every government in razorman Dec 2015 #7

Israel isn't an ally like Germany and France are geek tragedy Dec 2015 #9

True enough. But, I thought his order included all of our allies. razorman Dec 2015 #10

No, it was a promise to our closest allies and had a giant loophole geek tragedy Dec 2015 #16

Israel spies on us too. Hell, one of their spies, Jonathan Pollard was just released. brush Dec 2015 #18

And they have fake bacon. How can you trust anyone who calls *that* bacon? nt tblue37 Dec 2015 #24

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #25

We spy on everyone, and everyone spies on us. alfredo Dec 2015 #11

Yep. You're not going to find me crying about this circumstance in the slightest. MADem Dec 2015 #26

LOL. Exactly. All in a day's work. I would hope any of Hortensis Dec 2015 #65

Sanders would �absolutely� end NSA spying oberliner Jan 2016 #92

He said he would stop snooping on Americans not foreign powers nt geek tragedy Jan 2016 #94

Interesting! Wellstone ruled Dec 2015 #2

From the original story: "Going dark on Bibi? Of course we wouldn�t do that,� geek tragedy Dec 2015 #3

We have no allies, only enemies and potential enemies, is what I was told in the Army. alfredo Dec 2015 #13

Spot On Alfredo Yallow Dec 2015 #21

Sad, but true. alfredo Dec 2015 #60

Great effort your making to advance that meme, King_David Dec 2015 #32

Israel doesn't have a collective self-defense treaty with the US. geek tragedy Dec 2015 #34

Israel doesn't need it , all those other countries do... King_David Dec 2015 #36

Note that Hezbollah and Hamas attack Israel without us getting geek tragedy Dec 2015 #42

Keep trying ,keep trying King_David Dec 2015 #48

Israel has a powerful ally within the US, the religious conservative. alfredo Dec 2015 #64

did you have a problem with Israel spying on all the diplomats karynnj Dec 2015 #61

If our congress critters are doing or saying things they're afraid of being caught at doing, napi21 Dec 2015 #4

Same logic as "you only have to worry about government spying on you if ... salib Dec 2015 #6

If the government isn't spying on you, you aren't trying hard enough. alfredo Dec 2015 #12

In the case of Congress, no they're NOT! Obciously they're always napi21 Dec 2015 #19

When members of congress conspire with a foriegn power comradebillyboy Dec 2015 #5

!!!! vkkv Dec 2015 #15

Name names n/t Joe Shlabotnik Dec 2015 #23

There are serious separation of powers issues here. salib Dec 2015 #8

No. Only one branch has the authority to spy on foreign powers nt geek tragedy Dec 2015 #17

But not the authority to then spy on congress critters. salib Dec 2015 #40

The NSA has every right to intercept every communication sent by foreign geek tragedy Dec 2015 #44

They have "the right"? salib Dec 2015 #46

Foreign powers have no constitutional right of privacy geek tragedy Dec 2015 #59

I don't see how Bradical79 Dec 2015 #39

Interesting salib Dec 2015 #43

Still not seeing a separation of powers issue Bradical79 Dec 2015 #47

It is the onus of the government agency that is spying to be sure they are not violating salib Dec 2015 #49

but what's the constitutional violation? Bradical79 Dec 2015 #50

4th amendment. salib Dec 2015 #51

So does the 4th amendment apply to foreign officials outside of the U.S.? Bradical79 Dec 2015 #56

That's not all that happened 6chars Dec 2015 #63

Stop lying. Obama was not spying on US citizens. The NSA was spying on a foreign government geek tragedy Dec 2015 #67

What's your source? Bradical79 Dec 2015 #69

President spying congressional representatives is a pretty big deal 6chars Dec 2015 #55

He wasn't spying on congressional representatives Bradical79 Dec 2015 #57

"do you remember your President Nixon?" geek tragedy Dec 2015 #75

yes there is - should the out of power party collude with a foreign country karynnj Dec 2015 #62

This is only an issue when there's a republican president. n/t hughee99 Jan 2016 #93

Israel does not support our president who won by a "landslide". Israel is no vkkv Dec 2015 #14

True, but as a government, they commit war crimes and steal land. ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2015 #27

Yep - but be careful - you could be tagged as "anti-semitic" !!! vkkv Dec 2015 #72

I am conflicted davidpdx Dec 2015 #20

The Iran deal is not a treaty, executive agreement, signed document, or legally binding. bananas Dec 2015 #22

The Iran deal is not a treaty davidn3600 Dec 2015 #33

Not an executive agreement either Bradical79 Dec 2015 #41

President spying on members of congress. Sounds good to me. 6chars Dec 2015 #28

It's OK - he's one of ours...nt jonno99 Dec 2015 #30

what about spying on congress communications with US pro-Israel groups? 6chars Dec 2015 #38

you're linking to a Kahanist shitrag publication geek tragedy Dec 2015 #45

Cmon , that's the best response you have ? King_David Dec 2015 #52

jewishpress.com is as credible as davidduke.com geek tragedy Dec 2015 #58

By the way, please don't let us ever catch you complaining about Mondoweiss again. geek tragedy Dec 2015 #66

Jewish Press is right wing and I would never use it King_David Dec 2015 #68

Jewishpress is virulently racist--it's run by Kahanists. Weiss attracts a lot of creepy-crawlies geek tragedy Dec 2015 #70

Weiss himself has written bigoted pieces against American Jews such as myself. nt King_David Dec 2015 #74

go ahead and post an example nt geek tragedy Dec 2015 #76

Here's one smLl example King_David Dec 2015 #79

that paragraph objects to the fact it was only Jews debating Israel's future geek tragedy Dec 2015 #81

jewishpress.com is also hideously bigoted towards the GLBT communities geek tragedy Dec 2015 #73

I am not arguing or supporting them, King_David Dec 2015 #77

Jewishpress is racist, EXTREMELY rightwing, and homophobic. geek tragedy Dec 2015 #78

I don't read that publication King_David Dec 2015 #80

Swing and a miss. geek tragedy Dec 2015 #82

You're on DU a lot Mosby Dec 2015 #83

You were saying? geek tragedy Dec 2015 #85

I kept looking at the counterpunch OPs Mosby Dec 2015 #86

there were a few dustups over the Putin Fan Club at DU using Holocaust-denying websites geek tragedy Dec 2015 #87

Kahane called for killing Arabs. JewishPress doesn't do that. shira Dec 2015 #88

CNN and WSJ are reporting the same thing as JewishPress. Try again. n/t shira Dec 2015 #89

President Obama is everything I had hoped for when it Purveyor Dec 2015 #31

Me too : King_David Dec 2015 #37

The NSA was spying on a foreign government, not Congress. Do pay attention. geek tragedy Dec 2015 #35

Snowden's revelations showed the NSA gave raw intel to Israel. OnyxCollie Dec 2015 #29

I'm so glad the NSA picked up the chatter between netanyahu and KKKGOP wo were underthematrix Dec 2015 #53

amazing 6chars Jan 2016 #90

This could have been titled "Israeli lobby corrupts and manipulates US Congress" frizzled Dec 2015 #54

As long as everybody's worshipping the Almighty Dollar, it's cool. Octafish Dec 2015 #71

Kickin' to read later. Faux pas Dec 2015 #84

is very simple UpInArms Jan 2016 #91