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110. Shooting someone with a gun you "thought" was empty

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 06:17 PM

Dec 2015

is not an accident, and should never be referred to as such. It is gross negligence and irresponsibility, and people who do it should be held to blame. As you correctly point out, if you have a gun in your hand, you always assume that it is loaded and handle it accordingly, unless you personally have verified that it is not.

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Police: Mother mistakes daughter as intruder, shoots her [View all] Omaha Steve Dec 2015 OP

hmmmm: niyad Dec 2015 #1

I wonder if it's the mother who's LE. (nt) Ino Dec 2015 #7

no matter what is thought about guns roguevalley Dec 2015 #24

It's all about guns. And I can still feel horrible for the daughter losing her life. trillion Dec 2015 #83

Wow... deathrind Dec 2015 #2

we had the same thought, same moment niyad Dec 2015 #10

Someone in the house is in law enforcement? The shooter maybe? Wow. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #3

It says "is" in law enforcement, not "was" in law enforcement. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2015 #21

Thank Jeebus for Mom's gawd-given right to a firearm! Praise bullets! valerief Dec 2015 #4

Amen.... daleanime Dec 2015 #26

yeah, she must be so proud of herself and thilled that guns make her family "safe" trillion Dec 2015 #84

Good shot! JustADumbFireman Dec 2015 #5

Ready, fire, aim...if only the daughter had been armed... Human101948 Dec 2015 #6

Makes me nearly reach for my gun just thinking of someone walking off with a flat screen. n/t Judi Lynn Dec 2015 #57

When you talk like that... Human101948 Dec 2015 #62

Hopefully it won't actually be your kids who just forgot their keys. trillion Dec 2015 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author truebluegreen Dec 2015 #105

What is to say??? Stuart G Dec 2015 #8

Thank goodness she saved the TV! trillion Dec 2015 #90

Mom'll get over it. Plucketeer Dec 2015 #9

Home defense. The number one reason people give for buying a gun. nt TeamPooka Dec 2015 #11

Making our home safe is why we got rid of that one gun a family member wanted. trillion Dec 2015 #86

My husband always kept the first chamber empty for this very reason mountain grammy Dec 2015 #12

That is not why you would keep the first chamber of a revolver empty. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #47

and I feel safer with all chambers empty. mountain grammy Dec 2015 #51

I believe you. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #54

you got to feel for the woman in this story. It could have been your house and your kid. trillion Dec 2015 #87

I do feel sorry for her. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #100

Not "accidentally". The death was negligence if not worse skepticscott Dec 2015 #111

Too bad the daughter wasn't armed to protect herself world wide wally Dec 2015 #13

The only thing to stop a mom with a gun is a daughter LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2015 #35

Guess the nutters are still awaiting their NRA-approved talking points shawn703 Dec 2015 #14

Leads me to believe that a firearm in the house increases the likelihood LanternWaste Dec 2015 #15

Guns always make you less safe Major Nikon Dec 2015 #32

Curious why... AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #16

What state is this? Fantasy land? Cops shoot 12 year olds in this country MillennialDem Dec 2015 #49

Washington State has two separate statutes for Justifiable and Excusable homicide. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #52

I'm sure the mother is having a little-too-late epiphany. byronius Dec 2015 #17

Shoot first, ask questions later. - oh wait... vkkv Dec 2015 #18

She won't be. She stood her ground in a way that would have made Charlton Heston proud. Hoppy Dec 2015 #20

I hope she's charged with murder too, since she just murdered someone. trillion Dec 2015 #89

She hears a sound, then shoots? Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #19

That's what baffles me deutsey Dec 2015 #55

I don't own a gun ... and may or may not choose to do so in the future ... Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #95

I agree deutsey Dec 2015 #103

Yes, and I don't understand why people seem to treat things lightly. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #109

Shooting someone with a gun you "thought" was empty skepticscott Dec 2015 #110

And even if it was someone inside the house johnnypanic42 Dec 2015 #112

That's what gets me... Phentex Jan 2016 #118

"mistaken for intruder" google search. The list goes on and on. mainer Dec 2015 #22

Funny how the only person summarily charged with murder in any of these cases was a black woman. Chakab Dec 2015 #44

Yes. The prospect of the latter bvf Dec 2015 #46

This can't begin to touch on the literally thousands of peole who accidentally shoot and kill their trillion Dec 2015 #94

None of what you describe is accidental. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #101

I wonder if they had a little argument around the holidays, and mom just murdered her? jtuck004 Dec 2015 #23

Apparently, she never watched the "Family Ties" episode where the parents almost off Alex Coventina Dec 2015 #25

Another successful use JackInGreen Dec 2015 #27

How horrible. No words for this riversedge Dec 2015 #28

People with that much paranoia womanofthehills Dec 2015 #29

The Police RobinA Dec 2015 #69

Sadly I have to agree with you. My familiy members who are cops aren't but there are way too many trillion Dec 2015 #88

Guns in the home are the biggest danger to families. nt onehandle Dec 2015 #30

It could have been worse..... Liberalagogo Dec 2015 #31

Who were the people on here last week saying gun accidents are so very rare? lark Dec 2015 #33

In a way, they were right, since this was not an accident skepticscott Dec 2015 #39

Yes it was negligence to keep a loaded gun by her bed. lark Dec 2015 #106

Have to disagree skepticscott Dec 2015 #108

That's what they're telling us Demobrat Dec 2015 #40

What are the absolute numbers and per capita rates? hack89 Dec 2015 #59

Actual gun accidents are indeed rare SwankyXomb Dec 2015 #61

"Rampant"? TeddyR Dec 2015 #65

How would you know since the gun(nut) lobby has outlawed collecting statistics? trillion Dec 2015 #91

Potato potatoe lark Dec 2015 #107

Best reason for a weapon mounted light. ileus Dec 2015 #34

The light illuminates two targets JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2015 #37

yes, the mother would have clearly been at a disadvantage here with a light. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #41

"Shooting the wrong person never" - yep, that's the problem with pro 2A folks. Accident will MillennialDem Dec 2015 #50

Let's not forget your protective vest, etc., to go with your cherished "self-defense" pistol, rifle, Hoyt Dec 2015 #58

beans and bicycle wheels rounds rounds out the list... ileus Dec 2015 #67

You should try it. And I don't have to pack a gun when I bike. Hoyt Dec 2015 #68

I've lost track of how many times I've read stories like this! LongTomH Dec 2015 #36

... SunSeeker Dec 2015 #38

just sayin'... NoMoreRepugs Dec 2015 #42

Our nation is drowning in guns. liberalnarb Dec 2015 #43

+10000 trillion Dec 2015 #99

She was just being the 'Good guys with a gun' LynneSin Dec 2015 #45

Gun Safety Rule #4 ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #48

Yeah, I'll try to keep that one in mind..... Paladin Dec 2015 #53

For various definitions of "sight deprived". ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #56

In Kansas some years ago our RW legislature removed blindness as a disqualifier tblue37 Dec 2015 #63

Was that legal blindness or physical blindness? ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #73

Any blind at all. Here is an article from the UPI shortly tblue37 Dec 2015 #75

That's pretty low on the list. JackRiddler Dec 2015 #71

The four rules: ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #72

Sounds nice, but when adrenalin or paranoia is pumping, it's forgotten, as mom in this tragedy. Hoyt Dec 2015 #78

That is where your training kicks in. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #80

You'd be better off spending your time meditating or something. Screwing around with gunz is Hoyt Dec 2015 #81

Meditating would certainly be cheaper given ammo prices. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #102

Or when your lizard brain reacts in panic when you have been suddenly wakened from tblue37 Jan 2016 #116

Exactly, but gunners think they don't make mistakes -- they are so well trained and all. They have Hoyt Jan 2016 #119

I Think It's To Her Benefit To Be Identified SoCalMusicLover Dec 2015 #60

this is some fucked-up reasoning Skittles Dec 2015 #77

I don't think it's f'd up reasoning at all. The woman should have her name out there regardless of trillion Dec 2015 #93

she is a dispatcher, not a cop Skittles Dec 2015 #97

At least she got to live out her lifelong dream of taking out an intruder with her precious gun. Aristus Dec 2015 #64

While I am sorry the daughter is dead, SheilaT Dec 2015 #66

What story would you hear if she intended to shoot her daughter? JackRiddler Dec 2015 #70

Police: Daughter Shot by Mother Was Visiting for Holidays Judi Lynn Dec 2015 #74

This is why a loaded gun by the bedside is a bad idea indeed. tblue37 Dec 2015 #79

If only the daughter had had a gun!!! tabasco Dec 2015 #76

I see a lot more of this type of story Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #82

Me to. trillion Dec 2015 #92

I wish former gun lovers who learned the hard way that guns in the home are tblue37 Dec 2015 #96

A good idea right there Blandocyte Jan 2016 #115

A break down in communication Kaleva Dec 2015 #98

The mother was a dispatcher, hubby an undercover police officer.. I wonder if she was laying in jtuck004 Dec 2015 #104

Why would anyone shoot at anything before identifying it somehow? PersonNumber503602 Dec 2015 #113

Mom's husband is a cop Blandocyte Jan 2016 #114

Another "good guy with a gun" story... workinclasszero Jan 2016 #117