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In reply to the discussion: Radioactive bluefin tuna crossed the Pacific to US [View all]drokhole
(1,230 posts)11. Howard Zinn really nailed it on the head...
"I do not like experts. They are our jailers. I despise experts more than anyone on earth.... They solve nothing! They are servants of whatever system hires them. They perpetuate it. When we are tortured, we shall be tortured by experts. When we are hanged, experts will hang us.... When the world is destroyed, it will be destroyed not by its madmen but by the sanity of its experts and the superior ignorance of its bureaucrats..
We are expected to believe that great thinkers-experts-are objective, that they have no axes to grind and no biases, and that they make pure intellectual judgments. However, the minds of all human beings are powerfully influenced (though not totally bound) by their backgrounds, by whether they are rich or poor, male or female, black or white or Asian, in positions of power, or in lowly circumstances. Even scientists making "scientific" observations know that what they see will be affected by their position.
Why should we cherish "objectivity," as if ideas were innocent, as if they don't serve one interest or another? Surely, we want to be objective if that means telling the truth as we see it, not concealing information that may be embarrassing to our point of view. But we don't want to be objective if it means pretending that ideas don't play a part in the social struggles of our time, that we don't take sides in those struggles.
Indeed, it is impossible to be neutral. In a world already moving in certain directions, where wealth and power are already distributed in certain ways, neutrality means accepting the way things are now. It is a world of clashing interests-war against peace, nationalism against internationalism, equality against greed, and democracy against elitism-and it seems to me both impossible and undesirable to be neutral in those conflicts."
-- Howard Zinn, from Declarations of Independence
We are expected to believe that great thinkers-experts-are objective, that they have no axes to grind and no biases, and that they make pure intellectual judgments. However, the minds of all human beings are powerfully influenced (though not totally bound) by their backgrounds, by whether they are rich or poor, male or female, black or white or Asian, in positions of power, or in lowly circumstances. Even scientists making "scientific" observations know that what they see will be affected by their position.
Why should we cherish "objectivity," as if ideas were innocent, as if they don't serve one interest or another? Surely, we want to be objective if that means telling the truth as we see it, not concealing information that may be embarrassing to our point of view. But we don't want to be objective if it means pretending that ideas don't play a part in the social struggles of our time, that we don't take sides in those struggles.
Indeed, it is impossible to be neutral. In a world already moving in certain directions, where wealth and power are already distributed in certain ways, neutrality means accepting the way things are now. It is a world of clashing interests-war against peace, nationalism against internationalism, equality against greed, and democracy against elitism-and it seems to me both impossible and undesirable to be neutral in those conflicts."
-- Howard Zinn, from Declarations of Independence
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So what's that do for the deep-sea fishing businesses and the tuna fleets off the west coast?
Liberty Belle
May 2012
#4
Hopefully the panic will shut down a lot of the fishing fleets due to a lack of demand.
Nihil
May 2012
#40
The second round of testing should be interesting. Cesium is in our foodchain.
Gregorian
May 2012
#5
NPR last week had a report that Tuna Harvest was Way Down....this report makes me wonder...
KoKo
May 2012
#17
That too...plus oil spills....the radiation is an additional problem up the food chain
KoKo
May 2012
#49
If you're old enough, you may remember the shoe stores that had x-ray machines to make sure
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2012
#39
I wonder what this says about levels in smaller fish, squid etc eaten there and along the journey
suffragette
May 2012
#34