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28. Get warrants, and get all their records

Sat Jan 2, 2016, 11:30 PM

Jan 2016

Insurrection is no joke but these guys are in fantasy land, so we have that going for us. Don't create martyrs, create work for investigators.

This probably starts unraveling when those involved start feeling the effect of the lower credit scores their life choices are going to bring.

I don't think it's helpful to coddle these blatant law breakers. People's trust in the fairness of our system is already tattered. I'd say it's safe to say nearly all the referees are going to agree that the administration has showed patience and restraint with these clowns. Time to serve warrants and roll them up. It's not like we don't have decades of experience in doing this.

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Militia takes over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters (Updated) [View all] neverforget Jan 2016 OP

Wow! Are they Muslims? tecelote Jan 2016 #1

idaho, come get your fuckers. thanks, roguevalley roguevalley Jan 2016 #15

I hope the gov takes it back becuase it they don't these anti gov teapartiers will start pulling trillion Jan 2016 #57

Which government? atreides1 Jan 2016 #111

big mistake heaven05 Jan 2016 #129

+10000 trillion Jan 2016 #176

they have no claim to that land, it was public land turned into a refuge by Teddy Roosevelt in 1908 CreekDog Jan 2016 #182

Amen! MatthewStLouis Jan 2016 #228

+1! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #32

Yee-hawdist's (n/t) harun Jan 2016 #222

this part made me laugh..... dhill926 Jan 2016 #2

Small Change november3rd Jan 2016 #19

That's what they're doing! Voice for Peace Jan 2016 #54

The Tea party is a huge movement that is well financed. All are yelling take back America - a trillion Jan 2016 #58

I'm always more concerned about people/groups like this than "them" over there! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #124

Like a laser you honed in on what's going on duhneece Jan 2016 #204

Our county commission, state rep AND US Congressman support this duhneece Jan 2016 #221

That's what they're doing. If you listen to them it's ugly though. trillion Jan 2016 #60

I'm sure they're just picnickers. lob1 Jan 2016 #3

If they want out of the US so bad, let them out. Let them stop paying taxes and no federal benefits. LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #4

This is what happens when the BLM backs down montanacowboy Jan 2016 #5

Bureau of Land Management for those who are wondering. Scuba Jan 2016 #9

Lol thank you Voice for Peace Jan 2016 #55

Thank you. All I could come up with was Black Live Matter. And they do. trillion Jan 2016 #61

hehehe. PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #216

Well said. n/t Peregrine Took Jan 2016 #154

So will they be allowed to do this or will there be arrests by the Federal Government? jalan48 Jan 2016 #6

last time I saw the BLM Feds arrest anyone it was an 80 year old woman taking pictures & Sunlei Jan 2016 #114

Latest is that there are just 12-15 in there. ehrnst Jan 2016 #149

LOL-hey Adele isn't that bad. I'd say rap would be most effective against these types. jalan48 Jan 2016 #150

No - the call to prayer drmeow Jan 2016 #162

The soundtrack to Hamilton. ehrnst Jan 2016 #240

"Feliz Navidad." works every time. nt msanthrope Jan 2016 #207

The Barney "I Love You" song was Number one at Gitmo marions ghost Jan 2016 #235

Malheur, of course, means misfortune. forest444 Jan 2016 #7

Not buying that line of mule crap. Lochloosa Jan 2016 #8

Why not, pray tell. forest444 Jan 2016 #11

Because it will just make them look bad. The only people who will get mad are the people already trillion Jan 2016 #62

while i think you are right that they want that, mopinko Jan 2016 #17

Sounds like a plan. forest444 Jan 2016 #36

Good time to rjsquirrel Jan 2016 #112

During the U.S. Civil War, the Union seized the plantation formerly KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #127

oh man! I didn't know that. Yes, that is a precedent. trillion Jan 2016 #177

I agree. The FAR RIGHT would love to have new martyrs for their White Supremacist cause. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #34

Martyrdom goes only so far pwhtckll Jan 2016 #40

My point exactly. forest444 Jan 2016 #41

This is only happening because Bundy got a away with it last time. It needs to be stopped trillion Jan 2016 #63

Respectfully disagree. Send in the 82nd Airborne and wipe those KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #128

That might cause the anti-government white supremacists to hate black people and liberals! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #143

Now that I have had some time to think about it, I think a protracted siege KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #144

It would make for entertaining TV. Maybe Trump would show his support by joining them. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #151

The day that Munificence Jan 2016 #174

I have now changed my mind and favor a protracted KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #175

You should have taken an oath to protect us from enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC. trillion Jan 2016 #179

Yep Munificence Jan 2016 #236

Send in the drones. trillion Jan 2016 #178

and what if one of these assholes shoots a fed agent? orleans Jan 2016 #81

Not one. Many - he said he trained their group to be snipers to take out federal agents. trillion Jan 2016 #209

If these people were AA tazkcmo Jan 2016 #131

Letting bullies/terrorists have their way is never a good idea Doctor_J Jan 2016 #134

Ouch! That is Federal Boys. Wellstone ruled Jan 2016 #10

It's 10 degrees in Burns right now (closest town). Cut off the heat. Shrike47 Jan 2016 #12

Good idea. They should shut off the water too. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #14

They most likely came prepared for that to happen passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #21

Hopefully the feds were waiting for this. I like your post. trillion Jan 2016 #64

Excellent post! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #35

and cut off the supporters who are bringing them chili!! lol. orleans Jan 2016 #82

Shutting off the electricity there, does shut off the water. -none Jan 2016 #227

my aunt bell lived in burns. very rural roguevalley Jan 2016 #16

There ya go. Duppers Jan 2016 #18

At that remote location, they will have on-site utilities. Griefbird Jan 2016 #126

Forfeiture laws are based on the property being obtained with tainted (illegally gained) money. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #135

Gun loons gone wild. nt onehandle Jan 2016 #13

And IMO they are feeling more emboldened all of the time. If given free rein in this RKP5637 Jan 2016 #125

Cowards sight in on Fed officials from their hiding spots keithbvadu2 Jan 2016 #20

but they 'attack' and take over a National Wildlife Refuge building. passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #22

Excuse me? They are taking over that whole national forest - with the building. trillion Jan 2016 #68

They took over the HQ for the refuge, but they're talking about the forest XemaSab Jan 2016 #105

Excuse me? Oh my the histrioncs passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #165

they want the building as symbolic to stop the national forest from being protected land so they trillion Jan 2016 #180

My point stands passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #181

They are in Rebellion against the United States Wolf Frankula Jan 2016 #23

+Infinity! - nt KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #133

DU finally finds Angel Martin Jan 2016 #157

yeah, a bunch of gunnuts trained as snipers to take out federal agents that have taken over a trillion Jan 2016 #210

The well should be easy enough to shut off. MissB Jan 2016 #24

Just cut off the power. GoCubsGo Jan 2016 #29

Unless they brought portable generators. hack89 Jan 2016 #140

And what fuel source? rjsquirrel Jan 2016 #159

Gasoline carried in 55 gal drums or plastic fuel containers hack89 Jan 2016 #160

To melt snow rjsquirrel Jan 2016 #161

If the government plans to shoot on sight, that would be correct hack89 Jan 2016 #163

What makes you suspect that? rjsquirrel Jan 2016 #164

Time will tell, won't it? hack89 Jan 2016 #168

Yeah the only question is how much time rjsquirrel Jan 2016 #170

it's out in the desert, it's cold but there is not the amount of snow you suggest CreekDog Jan 2016 #185

And I love it when people are insufferable jerks hack89 Jan 2016 #191

I think it was pretty jerky to accuse me of being another poster CreekDog Jan 2016 #192

You really hold grudges over petty shit hack89 Jan 2016 #193

No, there is no grudge against you. The issue is that since so many of your posts are as accurate CreekDog Jan 2016 #195

Yet you are incapable of simply ignoring me hack89 Jan 2016 #196

It's not being a jerk to correct you CreekDog Jan 2016 #197

You can correct people in a civil tone, you know hack89 Jan 2016 #199

Quicker, if there's a chimney-- okasha Jan 2016 #219

How will they cash their disability, Farm Relief, welfare, and unemployment checks from there? NBachers Jan 2016 #25

But but, they want to drown the government in a bathtub. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #37

Direct deposit. nt 2naSalit Jan 2016 #75

(thanks for making me laugh) n/t orleans Jan 2016 #83

+1 harun Jan 2016 #223

The community organized a meeting yesterday with the militia passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #26

And, it's planned if you look close. It's where they're intentionally going. trillion Jan 2016 #69

Even the father and son who are voluntarily reporting --- lastone Jan 2016 #27

Get warrants, and get all their records Babel_17 Jan 2016 #28

Shut off the power . . . OldRedneck Jan 2016 #30

Shutting off the power won't do any good passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #33

They came with 2naSalit Jan 2016 #77

Look at it on google maps passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #166

Shocking I tell you, Shocking!! Kilgore Jan 2016 #93

There is a noon rally set for tomorrow passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #31

Set up a siege and order them to leave immediately. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #38

Charge them rent - we own the public land in this country. jwirr Jan 2016 #39

Tired of the pearl clutchers soiling their undies Jake Stern Jan 2016 #42

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #79

offended? orleans Jan 2016 #84

Did I miss something? Did Occupy demand that the Feds hand over Wall Street? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2016 #95

+1 daleanime Jan 2016 #104

I hope it's as easily resolved as many of you suggested. rusty quoin Jan 2016 #43

tear gas mucifer Jan 2016 #49

EMP? MisterP Jan 2016 #201

Here is the imposing structure they have taken over. kwassa Jan 2016 #44

That looks like it'd be pretty crowded, and probably smelly by now Electric Monk Jan 2016 #47

they want more militia to show up & that video said they are planning to live there for a couple orleans Jan 2016 #85

bring in the fire fighting helicopters SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #45

I think that's the best idea yet! kentauros Jan 2016 #48

Its ten degrees there now, that is a GREAT idea! peacebird Jan 2016 #106

Love this idea! sybylla Jan 2016 #117

That is perhaps the best idea yet! Maeve Jan 2016 #122

Great idea. Watch them chip ice in 10 degree weather. Doubt they brought "Ice Melt." MatthewStLouis Jan 2016 #229

Send in the national guard, with tanks. geek tragedy Jan 2016 #46

Nah, just wait for the mailman SansACause Jan 2016 #50

If rethugs were in charge, they would've been Duppers Jan 2016 #51

So white domestic terrorists are called underthematrix Jan 2016 #52

yes. But they also go by "right wing" militias. trillion Jan 2016 #72

Turn off the utilities, keep the tv cameras away and let them entertain themselves. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #53

I am for providing entertainment Gore1FL Jan 2016 #56

If federal trespass law Angel Martin Jan 2016 #59

They don't want the building. They want to turn forest around it into free farmland and mines. Electric Monk Jan 2016 #65

arrest the bastards. Enough is enough of this bullshit still_one Jan 2016 #67

That would probably cause some of them to start shooting... Kablooie Jan 2016 #74

so we have a carpetbagger from Idaho inciting sedition: still_one Jan 2016 #76

i agree orleans Jan 2016 #87

+10000 trillion Jan 2016 #71

They have occupied a federal building. Whether they have 150 people or 3 people, it is a federal still_one Jan 2016 #66

+10000 trillion Jan 2016 #70

Why bother with a trial? SwankyXomb Jan 2016 #147

Wonder if Trump will come out and support these anti-gov terrorists? trillion Jan 2016 #73

WWDD? (what would Donald do) BigBearJohn Jan 2016 #78

Should be interesting! "Donald, do you support the right of insurrections?" n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #132

His answer would tell us who is really beind him. trillion Jan 2016 #188

The LAW: BigBearJohn Jan 2016 #80

done and done. hopefully. n/t orleans Jan 2016 #88

Send in the UN black helicopters ucrdem Jan 2016 #86

Is this a sign of things to come? romanic Jan 2016 #89

More like things from the past safeinOhio Jan 2016 #90

150 armed militia members occupy a Fed. building threatening violence DesertRat Jan 2016 #91

Years Turbineguy Jan 2016 #92

Build a wall. Let them go Kilkenny Cat on each other. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2016 #94

With *illegal* Mexican labor and "Obama Internment Camp" signs. SMC22307 Jan 2016 #203

Proud American Patriots left-of-center2012 Jan 2016 #96

I'd be surprised if any of them made it to high school, let alone graduated or got accepted into the trillion Jan 2016 #212

Since it is one building, chain the doors shut from the outside egold2604 Jan 2016 #97

Excellent!! rjsquirrel Jan 2016 #99

+1000. nt. polly7 Jan 2016 #142

If there are snipers drmeow Jan 2016 #158

move a tactical bulldozer up against each door to make sure the door doesn't open egold2604 Jan 2016 #237

I support the use of drones rjsquirrel Jan 2016 #98

Get Out Of Americans National Wildlife Refuge Sunlei Jan 2016 #100

They're not a militia and the media should stop calling them as such sakabatou Jan 2016 #101

Well, if their skin color were different, I'm sure they would be called something different justiceischeap Jan 2016 #120

i think they are hoping to keep the building. mopinko Jan 2016 #141

#OregonUnderAttack #Terrorists #p2 riversedge Jan 2016 #102

So we outent JackInGreen Jan 2016 #103

Surround them and The Wizard Jan 2016 #107

That's exactly what they should do. Vinca Jan 2016 #108

Yes, this has less importance than student take-overs of campus admin bldgs during Vietnam HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #115

yes Locrian Jan 2016 #123

My first impulse upthread was to deploy the 82nd Airborne. On more KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #136

society wins via deescalation Red Mountain Jan 2016 #167

In general, I suspect the approach will be minimum deemed necessary HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #171

Sheldon Adelson pretty much runs Nevada ehrnst Jan 2016 #109

Keep them up all night with loudspeakers playing geek tragedy Jan 2016 #110

can the government stop their direct deposits? greymattermom Jan 2016 #113

Why not let them have their seige? sybylla Jan 2016 #116

You have the correct answer. But also need to isolate from any assistance,plus warning of ....... dmosh42 Jan 2016 #137

Great opportunity for our home land security forces randr Jan 2016 #118

You are fucking crazy for Munificence Jan 2016 #173

Bullshit. BillZBubb Jan 2016 #186

So what you Munificence Jan 2016 #194

The poster you attacked NEVER suggested what you claim. Again BULLSHIT! BillZBubb Jan 2016 #200

Thanks for the clarity on that BillZBubb randr Jan 2016 #224

ah, just have a drone toss in an incendiary device. The police are equiped for it. trillion Jan 2016 #208

So I am "fucking crazy"? randr Jan 2016 #198

For 15 redneck losers? Oneironaut Jan 2016 #233

Why does the media and government coddle these individuals every time? Earth_First Jan 2016 #119

'Cause Waco and Ruby Ridge. nt justiceischeap Jan 2016 #121

Because that would trigger the ammosexual foil hat brigade ehrnst Jan 2016 #148

Where are all the toys we bought for the drug war? Let's use them. bluedigger Jan 2016 #130

These people aren't a militia. They are armed domestic terrorists. onecaliberal Jan 2016 #138

I'd say their a bunch of piss-ants, where's the terror? HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #145

If Muslims did the same thing or African Americans they would be called onecaliberal Jan 2016 #153

I was thinking that the first time I saw this article. Yep, the'd have already had incindery devices trillion Jan 2016 #187

Definitely. Without question. onecaliberal Jan 2016 #189

Now you know why NRA wants guns for every right wing nut job. Yet we'll treat them like heroes... whereisjustice Jan 2016 #139

Armed criminals... Deuce Jan 2016 #146

If they want to her martyrs, fine. The Green Manalishi Jan 2016 #152

Take out their supply trailers, blow up their vehicles, cut them off Champion Jack Jan 2016 #155

these assholes are terorists plain and simple and should be treated as such TimeToEvolve Jan 2016 #156

This is the key statement passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #169

you're right about the anti gov yahoos but the let's get the point trillion Jan 2016 #183

You might be right, but passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #184

The koches tea party movement is all about appealing to those people. trillion Jan 2016 #214

Sorry, I just don't buy it passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #230

How important is the building? Bradical79 Jan 2016 #172

Why do Feds treat this like some impossibly delicate situation? Teamster Jeff Jan 2016 #190

They are soooooooooooooooooo butch ! olddots Jan 2016 #202

. trillion Jan 2016 #213

Update from the Harney County sheriff: Qutzupalotl Jan 2016 #205

Good post. Thanks! trillion Jan 2016 #211

So, Bundy and his gang of idiots are occupying the Malheur Refuge? classof56 Jan 2016 #206

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) defines terrorism as: Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2016 #215

What exactly is the backstory on this? PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #217

Okay.. For those who still don't know, here's some information. PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #218

Unless the witnesses lied, they deserve some time Strelnikov_ Jan 2016 #231

These right wing un-American thugs long to be a ISIS wannabes rockfordfile Jan 2016 #220

Where's Janet Reno when you need her? Tarc Jan 2016 #225

I'd think towing their vehicles would be the first step hollowdweller Jan 2016 #226

Way overblown. Why is the media hyping this? Oneironaut Jan 2016 #232

If they were black.... workinclasszero Jan 2016 #234

Launch the drones. briv1016 Jan 2016 #238

Well, Ted Cruz tells them to "Stand Down"... AnotherDreamWeaver Jan 2016 #239