Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Latest Breaking News
In reply to the discussion: Anti-GM protesters kept from tearing up wheat crop by police [View all]proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)41. Fear, uncertainty, doubt? How about independent FDA scientists being overruled by bureaucrats?
Excerpts from the legal brief above, revisit the history of FDA approval.
http://www.purefood.org/gefood/fdasued.cfm
I. FDA's Claim That GE Foods Are Generally Recognized As Safe is False and Fraudulent
A. The Required Level of Consensus is Very High
As the FDA's regulations prescribe and the federal courts have decreed, general recognition of safety can only be imputed if there is an overwhelming consensus in the community of qualified experts. While unanimity is not required, a significant disagreement prevents a determination that consensus exists. (62 Fed. Reg. At 18939.) Further, it takes only a few experts to provide the requisite level of disagreement.
For instance, in United States v. Seven Cartons. Ferro-Lac, 293 F. Supp. 660, 664 (N.D. Il. 1968)* the court agreed with the FDA that there was not general recognition of safety, based solely on the affidavits of two scientists who said that they were not aware of any studies in the pharmacological-toxicological literature on the intended use of the substance.
*Modified on other grounds, 424 F.2d 136 (7th Cir. 1970)
B. There Was Sufficient Doubt About the Safety of GE Foods Within the FDA's Own Scientific Staff to Nullify GRAS Status
Prior to the FDA's issuance of its May 1992 policy statement presuming that GE foods are generally recognized as safe (GRAS), its own experts had expressed concerns about the unique potential health hazards of these new foods in numerous memos to agency decision-makers. The pervasiveness of the concerns within the scientific staff is attested by a memo from an FDA official stating:
"The processes of genetic engineering and traditional breeding are different, and according to the technical experts in the agency, they lead to different risks." (FDA Administrative Record (hereinafter "A.R."
at 18,953.) Quotations from many of the FDA scientists are in the briefs we submitted to the court in the previously mentioned lawsuit.
The FDA has the original memos in its possession, and photocopies of over twenty key ones are on our website http://www.biointegrity.org/
Further, although the District Court upheld the FDA on narrow technical grounds in the lawsuit, it acknowledged that concerns had been raised by the FDA experts, and it did not state that the required level of disagreement was lacking. Rather, the court ruled that the upper level administrators had discretion to disregard their experts in making a GRAS determination.
Even if this ruling is correct (which is highly dubious), it is still the case that the overwhelming opinion of the FDA experts was that no GE food can be presumed safe unless it has been confirmed so through rigorous toxicological feeding studies.
C. The FDA Knows There Has Never Been Expert Consensus About the Safety of GE Foods
In 1992, when the FDA issued its formal presumption that GE foods are GRAS, it was well aware that not only were they not recognized as safe by its own experts but that there was in fact no consensus in the scientific community at large. This lack of consensus was
clearly acknowledged by Dr. James Maryanski, FDA's Biotechnology Coordinator, in a letter to a Canadian official on October 23, 1991. (A.R. at 22925)
Moreover, the FDA is also well aware that substantial disagreement in the scientific community about the safety of GE foods not only continues but is broadening and intensifying - and that it is more than enough to prevent these products from qualifying as GRAS. The mere fact that nine well-credentialed experts joined our lawsuit as plaintiffs and asserted they viewed GE foods as inherently more hazardous than their conventional counterparts was in itself sufficient evidence that the legally required level of consensus does not exist. The District Court clearly acknowledged the lack of consensus by stating: "Plaintiffs have produced several documents showing significant disagreements among scientific experts."
However, it said that because it was specifically reviewing FDA's policy decision of 1992, it was restricted to consider only the information the FDA had before it at that time. However, even if the court was correct in concluding that all evidence since May 1992 was irrelevant for purposes of that particular legal action (a conclusion that appears seriously flawed), it in no way told the FDA it had license to ignore such evidence in making its decisions after that date. But that is precisely what the FDA persists in doing. It systematically disregards the extensive evidence demonstrating the existence of significant expert disagreement about the safety of GE foods that has been presented to it by our lawsuit, at the series of public meetings it held in 1999, and through other formal channels; it pretends that this evidence is somehow nonexistent; and it gives the false impression in its public pronouncements that there is overwhelming consensus about safety.
More at link.
I. FDA's Claim That GE Foods Are Generally Recognized As Safe is False and Fraudulent
A. The Required Level of Consensus is Very High
As the FDA's regulations prescribe and the federal courts have decreed, general recognition of safety can only be imputed if there is an overwhelming consensus in the community of qualified experts. While unanimity is not required, a significant disagreement prevents a determination that consensus exists. (62 Fed. Reg. At 18939.) Further, it takes only a few experts to provide the requisite level of disagreement.
For instance, in United States v. Seven Cartons. Ferro-Lac, 293 F. Supp. 660, 664 (N.D. Il. 1968)* the court agreed with the FDA that there was not general recognition of safety, based solely on the affidavits of two scientists who said that they were not aware of any studies in the pharmacological-toxicological literature on the intended use of the substance.
*Modified on other grounds, 424 F.2d 136 (7th Cir. 1970)
B. There Was Sufficient Doubt About the Safety of GE Foods Within the FDA's Own Scientific Staff to Nullify GRAS Status
Prior to the FDA's issuance of its May 1992 policy statement presuming that GE foods are generally recognized as safe (GRAS), its own experts had expressed concerns about the unique potential health hazards of these new foods in numerous memos to agency decision-makers. The pervasiveness of the concerns within the scientific staff is attested by a memo from an FDA official stating:
"The processes of genetic engineering and traditional breeding are different, and according to the technical experts in the agency, they lead to different risks." (FDA Administrative Record (hereinafter "A.R."
The FDA has the original memos in its possession, and photocopies of over twenty key ones are on our website http://www.biointegrity.org/
Further, although the District Court upheld the FDA on narrow technical grounds in the lawsuit, it acknowledged that concerns had been raised by the FDA experts, and it did not state that the required level of disagreement was lacking. Rather, the court ruled that the upper level administrators had discretion to disregard their experts in making a GRAS determination.
Even if this ruling is correct (which is highly dubious), it is still the case that the overwhelming opinion of the FDA experts was that no GE food can be presumed safe unless it has been confirmed so through rigorous toxicological feeding studies.
C. The FDA Knows There Has Never Been Expert Consensus About the Safety of GE Foods
In 1992, when the FDA issued its formal presumption that GE foods are GRAS, it was well aware that not only were they not recognized as safe by its own experts but that there was in fact no consensus in the scientific community at large. This lack of consensus was
clearly acknowledged by Dr. James Maryanski, FDA's Biotechnology Coordinator, in a letter to a Canadian official on October 23, 1991. (A.R. at 22925)
Moreover, the FDA is also well aware that substantial disagreement in the scientific community about the safety of GE foods not only continues but is broadening and intensifying - and that it is more than enough to prevent these products from qualifying as GRAS. The mere fact that nine well-credentialed experts joined our lawsuit as plaintiffs and asserted they viewed GE foods as inherently more hazardous than their conventional counterparts was in itself sufficient evidence that the legally required level of consensus does not exist. The District Court clearly acknowledged the lack of consensus by stating: "Plaintiffs have produced several documents showing significant disagreements among scientific experts."
However, it said that because it was specifically reviewing FDA's policy decision of 1992, it was restricted to consider only the information the FDA had before it at that time. However, even if the court was correct in concluding that all evidence since May 1992 was irrelevant for purposes of that particular legal action (a conclusion that appears seriously flawed), it in no way told the FDA it had license to ignore such evidence in making its decisions after that date. But that is precisely what the FDA persists in doing. It systematically disregards the extensive evidence demonstrating the existence of significant expert disagreement about the safety of GE foods that has been presented to it by our lawsuit, at the series of public meetings it held in 1999, and through other formal channels; it pretends that this evidence is somehow nonexistent; and it gives the false impression in its public pronouncements that there is overwhelming consensus about safety.
More at link.
Tedious, nauseating and infuriating.
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
Recommendations
0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):
59 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
It's hard to have symptathy for idiots who attack publically funded research institutes.
enki23
May 2012
#1
Plants produce all kinds of defensive chemicals. Scientists study them for effects on human health.
yellowcanine
May 2012
#49
Big business, altruism? Read this reporting, though it sounds like a fictional political thriller.
proverbialwisdom
May 2012
#25
NOTE: Posts #23 and #25 refer to Dr. Arpad Pusztai's work in the UK described in post #18.
proverbialwisdom
May 2012
#45
Suppression of science free of conflict of interest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arpad_Pusztai
proverbialwisdom
May 2012
#18
Another grossly misleading oversimplification. Not up to speed? FORBES on the CDC here.
proverbialwisdom
May 2012
#20
Correction: they could sue YOU for their pollen on your property if they own the pollen patent.
proverbialwisdom
Jun 2012
#57
Sad. "We know that their primary goal is not anybody’s food security but their own bottom line."
proverbialwisdom
May 2012
#31
Again, "Unlike big companies, small-scale women farmers do NOT grab millions of acres of land
proverbialwisdom
May 2012
#32
He can't have it both ways. Either help Africa or help agribusiness, but they're mutually exclusive
WriteWrong
May 2012
#43
Says enhanced to fight aphids, hence it makes its own bug spray, hence, yeah Monsanto,
bemildred
May 2012
#28
No, it makes the natural bug "ew, don't eat this" scent that 400 other plants already do.
boppers
May 2012
#29
Nice summary of absence of consensus among FDA scientists described in 2001 legal brief at link.
proverbialwisdom
May 2012
#35
Fear, uncertainty, doubt? How about independent FDA scientists being overruled by bureaucrats?
proverbialwisdom
May 2012
#41
Selection is a slow method to find vertical mutations, variants, and interesting gene transfers.
boppers
May 2012
#46
You really want to go there? How's the health ofAmerica's children since the introduction of gmos?
proverbialwisdom
May 2012
#48
Roundup-ready crops do NOT fight weeds. They resist being poisoned by a broad-spectrum herbicide
WriteWrong
May 2012
#38
5/23/12 Press Release: American Medical Association Considers GMO Labels
proverbialwisdom
Jun 2012
#56
"...AMA delegates decided to refer this resolution to a committee that would review recent science."
proverbialwisdom
Jun 2012
#59