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nyabingi

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48. Obviously what they are doing now is not
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 05:37 PM
Jan 2016

working, but it would be a lot easier for me to say that it's been "a miserable failure" if there hadn't been constant and relentless interference in their internal affairs aimed at destabilizing the country - as much as you'd want to say that hasn't been the case, their is a wealth of information to say otherwise. Their are successful social democracies in Scandinavia but they don't have the US working to undermine their governments 24/7 either - big difference.

The drop in crude oil prices has hurt every major oil producer, and it has hurt Venezuela just as much as any. If you want me to say that the intentions and goals of the Bolivarian movement are/have been a failure, you're not going to hear me say that. I'll never be in favor of oligarchy, feudalism, monarchies and other forms of government that leave the majority of the people barely making it while the very few live the good life.

The danger posed by a successful Venezuela is its success and the example of it success. In the eyes of the US, these types of governments succeeding in regions of the world we want to dominate is something we will not see happen, and this is why the onslaught has been relentless and merciless. If too many in the Global South start thinking socialism or any form of government that leads them in a direction away from western neoliberalism is viable, our dominance will wane.

If we approached the Venezuelans with respect toward their choice of leaders and committed to working with them for our common benefit, things would be entirely different.

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Gee, who didn't see this coming? GGJohn Jan 2016 #1
Poor center right. Just as they thought they wouldn't have to rely on food banks, I expect. Joe Chi Minh Jan 2016 #2
Awww, what's the matter? GGJohn Jan 2016 #5
Let me guess nyabingi Jan 2016 #9
Then you would be guessing wrong. GGJohn Jan 2016 #10
If you don't understand that the US government nyabingi Jan 2016 #14
Which has nothing to do with the overwhelming defeat of the Chavistas on Dec. 6th. GGJohn Jan 2016 #15
Errr.... the Chavistas lost BIG in the election. Adrahil Jan 2016 #29
The poster in question has already been told elias49 Jan 2016 #38
You assume far too much of what sense of history I have, GGJohn Jan 2016 #58
'...there's a problem with your perception.' Ha! Ha! The best joke of the day. Don't argue Joe Chi Minh Jan 2016 #16
Insults, insults, insults, the sure sign that one has lost the debate and that's all that's left. GGJohn Jan 2016 #18
Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #11
Do you have problem with democracy? iandhr Jan 2016 #22
no one who describes Vladimir Putin as a "global hero" respects democracy. geek tragedy Jan 2016 #24
Nice to see that you don't respect elections Renew Deal Jan 2016 #40
The people whom the military nyabingi Jan 2016 #7
Really? GGJohn Jan 2016 #8
Engineered shortages of commonly-used goods nyabingi Jan 2016 #12
Ok, you just go with that if it makes you sleep better at night. eom. GGJohn Jan 2016 #13
You should try it. You get no prizes for insomnia. Sort out your immortal soul, before Joe Chi Minh Jan 2016 #19
Uh huh. GGJohn Jan 2016 #20
Since you aren't aware that the US is hostile towards Venezuela nyabingi Jan 2016 #28
Your link is exceptional. Could you cross-post it in Good Reads, and/or Latin America forum? Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #45
Thanks for your comments nyabingi Jan 2016 #46
Democrats have always been connected with the working class, making life possible for the poor. Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #57
Yes it has. iandhr Jan 2016 #23
We are talking about 3 or 4 people nyabingi Jan 2016 #25
That would deny the super majority. iandhr Jan 2016 #27
This "big tent coalition" I'm sure is backed fully nyabingi Jan 2016 #32
The current government seems to doing a pretty good job of destabilizing the country... iandhr Jan 2016 #37
I'm aware that Chavez attempted a coup nyabingi Jan 2016 #47
Not only does this she-beast get handed money by the US government for her hard-right poitics Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #61
Is there any evidence that these shortages were engineered? Adrahil Jan 2016 #30
Maduro's policies didn't cause this corporations nyabingi Jan 2016 #34
I could reply the same. Adrahil Jan 2016 #36
Obviously what they are doing now is not nyabingi Jan 2016 #48
"The danger posed by a successful Venezuela is its success and the example of it success." EX500rider Jan 2016 #68
The only thing that engineered shortages was the hubris of socialists thinking they can Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #31
Kind of like the way things work in our USA democracy, right? nt elias49 Jan 2016 #51
Venezuela government steps up fight with opposition-led congress Zorro Jan 2016 #3
Hmmm, isn't this what the former Soviet Union, Cuba, N. Korea, etc. did? GGJohn Jan 2016 #6
"government steps up fight with...congress" Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #33
I think the Head Line should read, Venezuela gov. steps up fight with US opposition led GOV. juxtaposed Jan 2016 #55
Got any proof of your Truth in advertising meme? eom. GGJohn Jan 2016 #60
What kind of opposition wins a majority nyabingi Jan 2016 #4
'What kind of opposition wins a majority Joe Chi Minh Jan 2016 #21
The kind where the majority wants the president ousted. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #35
He should have never allowed free elections Yupster Jan 2016 #17
I tend to agree with you nyabingi Jan 2016 #26
This post reads like an article from The Onion. Ace Rothstein Jan 2016 #39
What do you find "Onionish" about what I said, Ace? (nt) nyabingi Jan 2016 #49
It seems very sarcastic. Ace Rothstein Jan 2016 #56
I'm not sure how you can say the Maduro nyabingi Jan 2016 #59
"ncouraging those who can't respect democracy to leave the country" ROFLMAO snooper2 Jan 2016 #42
I swear I thought these two were being sarcastic. FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #43
Save your comment nyabingi Jan 2016 #50
"Respect democacy?" So is that why they're trying to nullify the opposition natl assembly now? Marksman_91 Jan 2016 #67
Is this Democratic Underground or Communist Underground? Reter Jan 2016 #41
It is Neoliberal Underground for many people around here (nt) nyabingi Jan 2016 #53
Venezuela always gets a code blue for the troll brigade. Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #62
Now here's a clear case of the pot calling the kettle black. GGJohn Jan 2016 #63
Chavistas even helped take care of US citizens who couldn't heat their homes mwrguy Jan 2016 #44
Chavez definitely cared more about the American poor nyabingi Jan 2016 #52
Some people refuse to educate themselves beyond Cold-War bullshit. elias49 Jan 2016 #54
And some people, (hint, hint) refuse to believe that the Maduro govt is a corrupt govt GGJohn Jan 2016 #64
Ha! You came back! elias49 Jan 2016 #65
As did you. GGJohn Jan 2016 #66
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