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nyabingi

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36. I wonder how much of the e-mails
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 07:06 PM
Jan 2016

have to deal with her State Department's covert actions in Libya (the stuff the Republicans ignored in all of their questioning).

The US State Department is the main instrument for regime change (now that the CIA has been reassigned to drone duty and weapons suppliers) and it is clear now that the US ambassador (Chris Stevens) and the consulate in Benghazi were coordinating not only with known religious extremists looking to oust Gaddafi, but also working with shipping companies who were to send Libya's stockpile of weapons to the extremists we are currently arming in Syria to oust Assad. It's unfortunate that Stevens lost his life, but he was obviously involved in some shady dealings in Libya and his actions helped precipitate the murder of Libya's leader, the massacre and ethnic cleansing of many sub-Saharan Libyans (in Tawergha) and the destruction of the country.

I hope Hillary's e-mails creates the conditions in which Congress can have hearings on this and ultimately the wisdom of working hand-in-hand with violent religious extremists to fight wars that the American public wouldn't agree to if it were American soldiers involved.

Hillary has some foreign policy experience, but it's the kind of experience that's very similar to the kind that Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz have.

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"these documents contain information derived from classified sources.” peacebird Jan 2016 #1
Uh Oh! Akicita Jan 2016 #25
OH boy...get ready for The Swarm! SoapBox Jan 2016 #2
Arent there "safe spaces" to help with that now? 7962 Jan 2016 #4
Over the top! Disruptful of Her Majesty's coronation! Hurtful and inappropriate! Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #58
Nothing surprising. And yet nothing will happen to her. 7962 Jan 2016 #3
Arrogance or ignorance Sienna86 Jan 2016 #6
+1 7962 Jan 2016 #16
Yes anyone but her. n/t truedelphi Jan 2016 #19
Not just her. Bernin Jan 2016 #106
Yes, and that's the problem. Now we have one law for high-up politicians and another for the plebes? Yo_Mama Jan 2016 #21
Had she just said I screwed up ripcord Jan 2016 #129
Hell, any clerk at any school office knows to keep their personal email separate from their employer bigworld Jan 2016 #12
Well, her argument has always been "nothing marked classified", 7962 Jan 2016 #14
Wait... Are you telling me that I can't read my classified emails and talk about them on gmail... TipTok Jan 2016 #26
You're being sarcastic, but yeah, THATS the excuse!! Yep, whodda thunk? 7962 Jan 2016 #73
I think you are right. But, I also do not think Bernie will take advantage of it. razorman Jan 2016 #91
I dont either. And its frustrating. 7962 Jan 2016 #101
It is mystifying. Surely, he has to see it. You just want to scream when he doesn't respond. razorman Jan 2016 #112
I don't think Bernie will grab onto this either but it's NOT that he's being a "gentleman". napi21 Jan 2016 #126
I agree. But, by the time the Republicans need to start attacking Hillary, razorman Jan 2016 #146
I'd irrationally use the term 'coronation' too LanternWaste Jan 2016 #132
Its used because it gets such a silly reaction from so many. Thats what makes it funny. 7962 Jan 2016 #141
I'm sorry, I thought I wandered onto RedState for a minute. uberblonde Jan 2016 #5
Agreed. Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #9
Great reply. Thanks. murielm99 Jan 2016 #20
Yes, but you are still subject to the laws about how to deal with classified information. Yo_Mama Jan 2016 #23
and what laws are those?it's a right wing talking point that has been debunked joeybee12 Jan 2016 #62
There are no laws regarding the handling of classified documents? GummyBearz Jan 2016 #123
When I worked for the gov't hollowdweller Jan 2016 #103
Or Free Republic, or Daily Caller, or Daily Mail or, etc., etc. Beacool Jan 2016 #70
Yup... Clinton ish of the hammer Jan 2016 #96
Depends on when the stuff was classified and when it was put on her server Warpy Jan 2016 #7
If your believe this, you are really misinformed. n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #10
pot meet kettle joeybee12 Jan 2016 #64
I don't think the problem is the legality at this point ripcord Jan 2016 #142
You're right, the far right has long been a little too eager to take the Clintons down, both of them Warpy Jan 2016 #143
You nailed it ripcord Jan 2016 #144
There's no way that Hillary is the only one who's done this. SpankMe Jan 2016 #8
True angrychair Jan 2016 #67
So wrong, special access certainly limits access above what top secret does daybranch Jan 2016 #109
Splitting hairs angrychair Jan 2016 #119
This is exactly correct nt kristopher Jan 2016 #127
Outstanding! tinkerbelle Jan 2016 #11
She's going to get indicted... hoosierlib Jan 2016 #13
Nope. Never happen. You're forgetting the name. 7962 Jan 2016 #15
You want her indicted? What's the charge? Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #18
Absolutely... TipTok Jan 2016 #27
When did she say that? Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #31
Her actions clearly show it... TipTok Jan 2016 #34
Evidence of a crime please. Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #38
Lots of people give testimony without confessing to their crimes... TipTok Jan 2016 #39
Not evidence of a crime. It's a news story. Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #40
I tend to follow the law and think it should be applied equally... TipTok Jan 2016 #43
You mean like the oh so fair and balanced Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #44
Just to be clear... TipTok Jan 2016 #46
I mean the Clinton family has been under attack from the right Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #50
You seemed to be suggesting that since things were unfair during Whitewater... TipTok Jan 2016 #66
Maybe they should stop doing shady shit... TipTok Jan 2016 #85
Aww gee, a passive aggressive personal attack Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #90
The entire Clinton family, organization and 'charity' are indeed... TipTok Jan 2016 #92
King, I refer you to Title 18 US Code, Section 793f Big_Mike Jan 2016 #108
I hold any Sec. of State who wants to be POTUS to a rigorous standard psychopomp Jan 2016 #120
A felony conviction does not bar anyone from the Presidency, Congress or the Judiciary. The 24601 Jan 2016 #139
Misdirection. You've got it. Thats the norm. 7962 Jan 2016 #76
I didn't watch 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #45
Uh, mishandling of sensitive / classified information... hoosierlib Jan 2016 #30
That's not evidence. Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #32
WHats already been released would be enough to bust a military member. 7962 Jan 2016 #71
The F.B.I. does not charge anyone. The D.O.J. does. Hoppy Jan 2016 #24
The DOJ does the indicting. The FBI just investigates and gives a reccommendation to the DOJ. Akicita Jan 2016 #29
thanks for posting right wing talking points joeybee12 Jan 2016 #65
Please wager with me. Codeine Jan 2016 #81
Still think this is why Biden was thinking about getting in. hollowdweller Jan 2016 #104
I agree with you. MBS Jan 2016 #110
Gee. A bunch of n00bs jumping on the Hillary-bashing bandwagon. KamaAina Jan 2016 #17
Do the rules not apply to her? TipTok Jan 2016 #28
Actually, she's not my preferred candidate. KamaAina Jan 2016 #33
You got that. It's disgusting to see. Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #42
Why don't you guys just come out and call all new posters trolls? 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #47
Not all. Only the ones who come right out of the gate trashing Dems. KamaAina Jan 2016 #49
Just the ones who commit crimes... TipTok Jan 2016 #93
You nailed it n/t emulatorloo Jan 2016 #52
I think I resemble your remark. However, should you care to look, I've been on the Big_Mike Jan 2016 #147
If the FBI has damning evidence she should be indicted. If it doesn't look Akicita Jan 2016 #35
I'm not religious, but "Amen" to that. Karma13612 Jan 2016 #87
Jury RandiFan1290 Jan 2016 #61
A pro-Hillary post got alerted on?! KamaAina Jan 2016 #88
Associated Press as well Babel_17 Jan 2016 #22
I wonder how much of the e-mails nyabingi Jan 2016 #36
That would be the real Benghazi hearing. Nyan Jan 2016 #68
Very sad, and very true nyabingi Jan 2016 #86
I've seen this theory before but have not seen any evidence of it. Akicita Jan 2016 #124
I suggest Hillary follow Blutos advice Kilgore Jan 2016 #37
For fuck's sake give it a rest. 6000eliot Jan 2016 #41
Hillary has three big weak spots: She lacks integrity, GOOD JUDGMENT, and common sense. TryLogic Jan 2016 #48
That and she basically amounts to a pro-choice Republican Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Akicita Jan 2016 #125
he is a one note do nothing joeybee12 Jan 2016 #63
Do you all realize the origin of the initial report that the MSM has seized? Beacool Jan 2016 #51
Doesn't matter! Doesn't matter!!! Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #53
You do realize that B, Fox and others now have a copy of the letter, right? magical thyme Jan 2016 #56
The word "Fox" has been mentioned, so everything STOPS NOW!! 7962 Jan 2016 #79
Apparently, this new "bombshell" is just a rehash KingFlorez Jan 2016 #57
Boom. Another non story seized by the Clinton haters. Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #60
the letter is dated January 14. The classification is such that the info was "born classified" magical thyme Jan 2016 #69
You nailed the whole POINT! 7962 Jan 2016 #82
She's a calculating woman and there's no real evidence that she is stupid... TipTok Jan 2016 #94
A mind reader too eh? Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #97
I'm a bit calculating myself.... TipTok Jan 2016 #100
Isn't one of the issues that agencies classify information differently? Justice Jan 2016 #118
1. You have to be on the short list of people allowed to see it magical thyme Jan 2016 #121
I'm beginning to consider the fact fredamae Jan 2016 #54
Jeez EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #55
It will be up to Loretta Lynch, not the FBI Yupster Jan 2016 #80
Ahh EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #89
Not really. Lynch can throw her copy in the trash jeff47 Jan 2016 #98
So Lynch is in on it too? Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #99
LOL as if throwing it away is humbled_opinion Jan 2016 #114
Are you a true Bernie supporter ? stonecutter357 Jan 2016 #72
Love your Yoda image. All sides here need to heed his advice. n/t Big_Mike Jan 2016 #149
Hillary is just another too big to fail institution who believes they are above the law. whereisjustice Jan 2016 #74
Ooops, again. Wondered about this the other day. Duval Jan 2016 #75
Were they "double-secret top secret"??????? JoePhilly Jan 2016 #77
Not allowed to say. Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #83
So what are you saying that humbled_opinion Jan 2016 #115
It's an on running game of see, hear and above all say no evil, or be dubbed a Traitor . orpupilofnature57 Jan 2016 #78
She's always known zentrum Jan 2016 #84
You are exactly right humbled_opinion Jan 2016 #116
No, right-wing witch hunts certainly aren't going away. NYC Liberal Jan 2016 #95
I know it is getting harder and harder to defend her.... n/t humbled_opinion Jan 2016 #117
So are the GOP rubbing their hands together with glee? Jarqui Jan 2016 #102
I'm tired of this shit either indict her or shut the fuck up. craigmatic Jan 2016 #105
Thank you. complain jane Jan 2016 #107
I don't really feel that way during a Democratic administration. It's probably better to take your 24601 Jan 2016 #111
Good clear post, but just one note Yupster Jan 2016 #122
Can't and won't defend humbled_opinion Jan 2016 #113
If she's the nominee, this is what we'll be hearing 24/7. Vinca Jan 2016 #128
Like it or not Abouttime Jan 2016 #130
Officials-new-top-secret-clinton-emails-innocuous Justice Jan 2016 #131
I wonder if any apologies from people on this thread will be forthcoming. Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #133
If the IC IG says they were wrong and there was no classified information and the FBI says that no 24601 Jan 2016 #135
I am sure Fox news will indict her if given the chance. Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #136
FWIW MosheFeingold Jan 2016 #137
Looks like this situation is totally different from yours. Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #140
You are exactly right ... Nihil Jan 2016 #145
That takes a lot of the rational wind out of this story Jarqui Jan 2016 #138
Another right wing smear on Hillary supported by some on DU. Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #134
Thank you, Sanders supporter. 6000eliot Jan 2016 #148
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