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In reply to the discussion: Happening now: Bundy breaking down fence on refuge #BundyTeaParty [View all]L. Coyote
(51,134 posts)212. Oregon Militia Brings Battle Back to Malheur Reservation
Oregon Militia Brings Battle Back to Malheur Reservation
Sarah Winnemucca isnt a name known by manyher surname is more likely identified as a town in Nevada than the last name of one of the nineteenth centurys most prominent American Indian writers and activists. Author of Life Among the Piutes, one of the first published narratives by a Native American, she made frequent headlines for her vocal support of indigenous rights. One of her most long-lasting campaigns was to restore her people, the Northern Paiutes, to the Malheur Reservation, which was created in 1872 by the U.S. government. In January 1879, following the Bannock War, residents of the reservation were forced to travel 350 miles to the Yakama Indian Reservation after an ill-informed decision to punish the Northern Paiutes, many of whom had supported the US against the Bannocks in the War. Even the so-called hostiles in the war were motivated by the usual: colonialist land encroachment and resource exploitation.
Because of our collective amnesia about both Winnemucca and Malheur, I was surprised to see the site make first-page news across the country last week, when members of a militia group took over the Malheur Wildlife Refuge in order to protest the US governments possession and management of public lands in the West.
Malheurknown now mainly to birders who prize species like the Sandhill Cranehas been a contentious site before. Nineteenth-century newspaper articles that Carolyn Sorisio and I published in the collection The Newspaper Warrior: Sarah Winnemucca Hopkinss Campaign for American Indian Rights 1864-1891 (University of Nebraska Press 2015) indicate that the rightful owner of Malheur was a contested question long before the militias current occupation.
The Malheur Indian Reservation was established for the Northern Paiutes in 1872 by President Grant. .....
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Sarah Winnemucca isnt a name known by manyher surname is more likely identified as a town in Nevada than the last name of one of the nineteenth centurys most prominent American Indian writers and activists. Author of Life Among the Piutes, one of the first published narratives by a Native American, she made frequent headlines for her vocal support of indigenous rights. One of her most long-lasting campaigns was to restore her people, the Northern Paiutes, to the Malheur Reservation, which was created in 1872 by the U.S. government. In January 1879, following the Bannock War, residents of the reservation were forced to travel 350 miles to the Yakama Indian Reservation after an ill-informed decision to punish the Northern Paiutes, many of whom had supported the US against the Bannocks in the War. Even the so-called hostiles in the war were motivated by the usual: colonialist land encroachment and resource exploitation.
Because of our collective amnesia about both Winnemucca and Malheur, I was surprised to see the site make first-page news across the country last week, when members of a militia group took over the Malheur Wildlife Refuge in order to protest the US governments possession and management of public lands in the West.
Malheurknown now mainly to birders who prize species like the Sandhill Cranehas been a contentious site before. Nineteenth-century newspaper articles that Carolyn Sorisio and I published in the collection The Newspaper Warrior: Sarah Winnemucca Hopkinss Campaign for American Indian Rights 1864-1891 (University of Nebraska Press 2015) indicate that the rightful owner of Malheur was a contested question long before the militias current occupation.
The Malheur Indian Reservation was established for the Northern Paiutes in 1872 by President Grant. .....
The Bizarre Bird Hat Fad That Led To Malheurs Public Land Protections
Before Bundy, Bird Hats: Malheurs Bizarre History
The history and law behind Utahs bid to gain federal public lands
By BRIAN MAFFLY | The Salt Lake Tribune Jan 19 2016
In the 1780s, Maryland was worried about its neighbors as America's newly independent states pondered how to bind 13 former British colonies into a single nation.
Virginia and Pennsylvania envisioned their borders extending far into "unoccupied" land to the west, and Maryland feared that its influence would wane should those states gain large empires. It insisted these lands be reserved for future states and sold to pay down a massive war debt and fund ongoing government operations.
The historic compromise to resolve this impasse led to the principles Utah is now invoking as it builds a legal case to demand that the federal government hand over title to 31 million acres of public lands.
To persuade Maryland's leaders to sign the Articles of Confederation, other states agreed that all future states would join the union on "equal footing" with the original 13, making the young nation a federal republic of sovereigns, according to the legal analysis recently unveiled by consultants hired by the Utah Commission for the Stewardship of Public Lands.
However ...........
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By BRIAN MAFFLY | The Salt Lake Tribune Jan 19 2016
In the 1780s, Maryland was worried about its neighbors as America's newly independent states pondered how to bind 13 former British colonies into a single nation.
Virginia and Pennsylvania envisioned their borders extending far into "unoccupied" land to the west, and Maryland feared that its influence would wane should those states gain large empires. It insisted these lands be reserved for future states and sold to pay down a massive war debt and fund ongoing government operations.
The historic compromise to resolve this impasse led to the principles Utah is now invoking as it builds a legal case to demand that the federal government hand over title to 31 million acres of public lands.
To persuade Maryland's leaders to sign the Articles of Confederation, other states agreed that all future states would join the union on "equal footing" with the original 13, making the young nation a federal republic of sovereigns, according to the legal analysis recently unveiled by consultants hired by the Utah Commission for the Stewardship of Public Lands.
However ...........
David J. Hayes @djhayes01
#Bundymilitia don't have a legal leg to stand on. My piece in the Nat'l Law Journal:
http://www.nationallawjournal.com/commentary/id=1202747232238/Oregon-Standoff-Is-Legally-Untenable?slreturn=20160018084432 #Malheur

Understanding the Oregon Standoff
January 19, 2016 by The Beacon by Rachel Rippetoe
... we have people arguing that these men are militia. Theyre armed and they actually are damaging property. Theyre saying that this should be treated as terrorism. How are we supposed to go about this as a nation?
Well, usually you think of terrorism as being either the attempt to take life or threaten to take life in order to advance a political goal. The fact that these guys are armed and wont leave and theyre threatening that if the authorities try to force them to leave, they will meet that force, certainly takes us beyond legal protest. On the other hand, I dont think theyre all the way to terrorism yet. It would be one thing if they were taking hostages or if they started blowing up the building, but I dont think tearing down a fence really counts. Its terrorism-light, if that. ....
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January 19, 2016 by The Beacon by Rachel Rippetoe
... we have people arguing that these men are militia. Theyre armed and they actually are damaging property. Theyre saying that this should be treated as terrorism. How are we supposed to go about this as a nation?
Well, usually you think of terrorism as being either the attempt to take life or threaten to take life in order to advance a political goal. The fact that these guys are armed and wont leave and theyre threatening that if the authorities try to force them to leave, they will meet that force, certainly takes us beyond legal protest. On the other hand, I dont think theyre all the way to terrorism yet. It would be one thing if they were taking hostages or if they started blowing up the building, but I dont think tearing down a fence really counts. Its terrorism-light, if that. ....
#RefugeRally chant went from "birds not bullies" to "throw the bums in jail" #Oregonstandoff 43 pics
#RefugeRally Event News - Rallies in Eugene, Bend, Seattle, Portland,... Noon Jan 19th


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They shoot Black kids for jaywalking, listening to loud music and eating Skittles
randys1
Jan 2016
#25
These people are liable to torch the place by accident. I wouldn't trust them drunk in a cabin.
trillion
Jan 2016
#156
no. we let them find out they have no support. I have been to this place. The locals
roguevalley
Jan 2016
#175
People don't realize just how cool-headed we are in Oregon. And these clowns are clueless about us.
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#184
federal cowardice in responding to the Bundy's is what encouraged this insurrection.
geek tragedy
Jan 2016
#64
Yeah, "God told me to start an armed conflict" is not a sermon, it's an #ArmedTroll at work.
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#153
who are getting way too much media coverage, which is encouraging them. n/t
dixiegrrrrl
Jan 2016
#59
The welfare cattle do destroy springs and land. Heres a spot some advocates watched trampled out,
Sunlei
Jan 2016
#84
In wilderness desperate for water, arrived at a spring far from legal grazing, found cow shit soup
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#124
Those kind of trample 'grazed to the sand" land damages are why Ca. has drought & wildfires today.
Sunlei
Jan 2016
#160
Area Extremist Republicans are part of the problem, most Oregonians are saner.
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#38
He operates some kind of truck maintenance business. Got a big federal loan to start it.
emulatorloo
Jan 2016
#30
Of course he did, these types cant compete fairly so they use the govt, lie about it, then
randys1
Jan 2016
#54
Check it out in Google earth, Phoenix site of the Harney County Militia and #BundyTeaParty offices.
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#71
They are getting too much attention, shut off the utilities, lock them in,
Thinkingabout
Jan 2016
#21
The Bundys have lots of assets that the government can take in order to pay for the damage.
JDPriestly
Jan 2016
#24
Nobody has seized Cliven Bundy's assets for his million dollars in delinquent fees.
phantom power
Jan 2016
#29
...because they are white, and probably directly related to Law Enforcement through their families.
bvar22
Jan 2016
#41
I think maybe they're planning on just letting them have Czechoslovakia...
phantom power
Jan 2016
#36
I'd love to see someone park a trailer right in front of his house and just squat.
Loudestlib
Jan 2016
#40
They're being allowed to do what they want. Law enforcement isn't doing jack shit.
Paladin
Jan 2016
#44
They stole the entire facility, moved in, call it theirs, put up new signage even.
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#135
No one's going to take their guns. no one's even going to write them a parking ticket nt
geek tragedy
Jan 2016
#67
As of today they overtly committed felonies which completely change the situation.
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#76
just what local small wildlife need, some asses trampling down the snow over the grass cover.
Sunlei
Jan 2016
#77
We need a poll. Will PayPal shut them down before USG? Will contributors face charges.
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#88
Just like the bankers. There are no consequences for breaking the law for white gun owners.
Kablooie
Jan 2016
#93
#ArrestTheBundyBunch might out trend #OregonStandoff, or #BundyCriminals. Next #BundyInmates.
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#109
and the chickenshit feds are just sitting back and allowing this to happen.
geek tragedy
Jan 2016
#102
Under Oregon law, felony theft with firearm, five year minimum, Class A felony 20 years maximum.
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#142
Déjà 1492. More like a parady entitled #AmericanGenocideHowTo if you're Native.
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#117
Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities is illegal
Jacoby365
Jan 2016
#126
18 USC § 924(c). Punishment ranges from at least 5 years up to life imprisonment
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#127
just start confiscating all his stuff NOW. 1st his fucking beef. take his COWS.
pansypoo53219
Jan 2016
#130
Here's the warning from HarneyCoSheriff on #OregonStandoff = tonite community meet
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#144
Community Meeting Applause: Pete Santilli got thrown out for disruption LIVE while broadcasting.
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#148
You make this a OP on its own. That article has some important information.
greatlaurel
Jan 2016
#165
Harney County judge to bill Ammon Bundy up to $70,000 a day for security costs
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#169
All Hat, No Cattle: Three Things to Know About the Militants’ Standoff in Southeast Oregon
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#170
#OregonStandoff: The Militants say they'll reveal an exit plan Friday #ArmedTrolls
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#174
"Now comes kangaroo court portion .... What would a #YeeHawd be without some form of sharia law"
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#177
NOW: interview with Ammon Bundy amidst #OregonStandoff on @RT_America @ 8pm ET
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#179
Self-appointed 'judge' arrives to convene an extra-legal "citizens grand jury"
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#182
Anti-Obama march organizer fatally shoots right-wing militant buddy in drunken dispute over gun
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#183
#Bundyland - Two devout Mormon brothers have created a fantasy camp for commandos in Eastern Oregon
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#191
Rancher: 'I didn't know anything' about Bundy entering property, destroying fence
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#194
#Oregonstandoff - 213 new results last few hours - Burns Fire Chief/Comm. of Safety Member Resigns
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#195
Harney County won't host community meeting with Bundy as headliner - #BundyCult
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#196
Bundy calls Judge Grasy "a dictator" for not allowing militia to meet at county-owned fairgrounds
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#197
Backer Of Bundy Militia Arrested After Building Bombs And Threatening Police
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#198
Months before Malheur occupation, another Oregon land dispute galvanized militants
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#199
Oregon State Police arrest Kenneth Medenbach = stolen Malheur National Wildlife Refuge vehicles.
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#202
Bend rally for public lands/#malheur swells to over 200, takes to street. #RefugeRally
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#203
Burns Paiutes seek federal prosecution if artifacts disturbed + Counter Protest Ongoing Now
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#206
Refuge occupiers clash with environmentalists and ask FBI to stop 'psychological warfare'
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#207
Bundy, "Native Americans had the claim to the land .. but the current culture is the most important"
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#208
#Oregonstandoff #BundyBunch plan meet w/ community tonight @ private Crystal Crane Hot Springs
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#210
"We're 2hrs. in to the community mtg w/domestic terrorists at the Oregon wildlife Refuge."
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#211
#RefugeRally chant went from "birds not bullies" to "throw the bums in jail" #Oregonstandoff 43 pics
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#213
OPB Listen: Oregon Gov. Kate Brown: 'Spectacle Must End' + Harney Community Meeting Video
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#215