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121. We have conquering armies that Ill-legally Occupy 2/3rd of Irans Borders no aggression there ?

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Fri Dec 30, 2011, 10:20 AM

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LA Times - Breaking News - Showdown between USA and Iran [View all] truedelphi Dec 2011 OP

GOP candidates announce: Obama's handling this wrong Enrique Dec 2011 #1

Republicons occultly dispatch Sen. David Vitter (R) to the Sea of Onan SpiralHawk Dec 2011 #24

No problem: the administration is doing this correctly PurityOfEssence Dec 2011 #111

You know what? EC Dec 2011 #2

I am. earthside Dec 2011 #5

Why worry? chervilant Dec 2011 #49

lol... amazing. ixion Dec 2011 #6

I am since the Iranians are so unstable. ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2011 #21

There's a 'sarcasm' tag missing from the post you are responding to. ;) AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #28

I totally agree! SkyDaddy7 Dec 2011 #39

The Iranians are unstable? ronnie624 Dec 2011 #61

Perhaps if you actually looked at what Iran has done under the mullahs, you would have ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2011 #69

It isn't my opinion. ronnie624 Dec 2011 #78

So you support the stoning of gays just for being gay, killing of women for disobeying husbands, ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2011 #81

You make a "statement" and attribute it to me? ronnie624 Dec 2011 #89

Per your own words... ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2011 #91

I support the right of other countries to be free from U.S. aggression, ronnie624 Dec 2011 #95

As am I ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2011 #96

It's the U.S., not Iran, that has its military spread all over the world. ronnie624 Dec 2011 #98

Thank you for your comments cpwm17 Dec 2011 #124

We have conquering armies that Ill-legally Occupy 2/3rd of Irans Borders no aggression there ? bahrbearian Dec 2011 #121

+1 bitchkitty Dec 2011 #103

Why don't we just switch to domestic oil for our needs? Ezlivin Dec 2011 #3

Because we are selling it to China? tawadi Dec 2011 #43

There is no domestic oil as such. All oil, no matter where it's drilled, is sold on the world market truth2power Dec 2011 #53

Thank you! So many have failed to grasp that fact. BeHereNow Dec 2011 #90

+1 so true wordpix Dec 2011 #122

Bingo! dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #128

Seems like Iran is picking this fight.... Joe the Revelator Dec 2011 #4

Whose carrier is in their territory? ixion Dec 2011 #7

Who's threating to shut down international trade? And I know of no carrier in.... Joe the Revelator Dec 2011 #8

heh... 'ours' go wherever they want and do whatever they want. ixion Dec 2011 #16

Oh ok... Joe the Revelator Dec 2011 #18

Actually, they don't cleanhippie Dec 2011 #57

lol... yeah, right. ixion Dec 2011 #58

After spending the last 21 years on US Navy ships, my experience says that you have no idea what cleanhippie Dec 2011 #63

history is on my side of this debate ixion Dec 2011 #68

No it is not, but ignorance clearly is ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2011 #71

I'm not disputing there is a well-defined process. ixion Dec 2011 #72

You stated that "they go where ever they want." That is a 100% false statement. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #79

Well, it's not actually. ixion Dec 2011 #85

Well, it is, actually. Perhaps you can provide some evidence of your assertions. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #93

Ok Knight Hawk Dec 2011 #107

Sure it is, if you are making it up as you go along. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #77

lol... ixion Dec 2011 #82

*facepalm* cleanhippie Dec 2011 #88

Citing Chomsky is clear proof you have no idea what you're talking about... Joe the Revelator Dec 2011 #102

How so? Given that he concurs. ixion Dec 2011 #116

What utter nonsense ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2011 #22

If that new Chinese aircraft carrier was parked in international waters outside puget sound AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #30

We would not be talking about sinking ships in international waters ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2011 #46

Again, your only issue is with the type of response ixion Dec 2011 #76

Our response would be within the international diplomatic and legal framework ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2011 #83

Yeah, maybe it would be like when we bombed Cambodia and Laos ixion Dec 2011 #86

Actually it is the will of the US Civilian Government being implemented by the military. ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2011 #94

Yes, as CiC, that stands to reason. ixion Dec 2011 #118

How About When the U.S. Staged the Gulf of Tonkin Incident or Mined Haiphong Harbor solarman350 Dec 2011 #99

Yep, I was going to include both of those ixion Dec 2011 #117

Um, where were you during the cuban missile crisis? AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #104

Yeah, and I'm sure if Iran was a few miles off the coast of New York, our govt would be a-okay ixion Dec 2011 #62

Considering that happened when the Soviet Union was still around... ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2011 #70

perhaps not that precisely, but something just as devious... ixion Dec 2011 #75

You statement does not parse ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2011 #84

Sounds like you need to reboot. ixion Dec 2011 #87

If an Iranian ship of some sort was in international waters off the coast of New York ixion Dec 2011 #73

We scrupuously tolerate that which is within international law OmahaBlueDog Dec 2011 #106

You do know that sort of thing happens all the time, right? (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2011 #109

Qatar usrname Dec 2011 #66

Scratching one's head... truedelphi Dec 2011 #9

And the Iranian people are oppressed by a crazed lunatic hell bent on picking a fight with... Joe the Revelator Dec 2011 #10

Unlike our wonderful nation, which had a guy from Texas with an IQ of room temp, truedelphi Dec 2011 #12

Our crazy leader was voted out, their crazy leader rigs his elections. Joe the Revelator Dec 2011 #15

But thousands of people did die due to our crazyleader's recklessness... KansDem Dec 2011 #20

Agree on people dying for Bush's stupidity.... Joe the Revelator Dec 2011 #23

I have seen how all the many nations and their people's have fared after we truedelphi Dec 2011 #42

Pol Pot was a US ally? Zorro Dec 2011 #67

Of course not. LiberalAndProud Dec 2011 #92

Then talk to Trudeau, the Doonesbury cartoonist, who truedelphi Dec 2011 #112

Please see response 112, two spots down from this. truedelphi Dec 2011 #114

it will never be time to move on when it comes to election rigging, caging, and other newspeak Dec 2011 #132

Thank you KansDem - truedelphi Dec 2011 #113

You don't think U.S. ellections are rigged?? Devil_Fish Dec 2011 #101

Thousands? Knight Hawk Dec 2011 #108

Actually, "our crazy leader" lost two elections, and yet was inaugurated both times. JackRiddler Dec 2011 #136

Is that in Fahrenheit or Celsius? Turbineguy Dec 2011 #55

+1 gazillion and furthermore- BeHereNow Dec 2011 #25

You forgot to mention chervilant Dec 2011 #50

Here's a link to such a map - the tiny black boxes etc are truedelphi Dec 2011 #11

What's cool is that Business Insider is crediting DU as the source of the graphic! dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #131

That was cool, wasn't it. n/t truedelphi Dec 2011 #134

the USA = world's biggest bully, causing it all nt msongs Dec 2011 #51

So, with the Straits of Hormuz being an "economic lifeline" Ruby the Liberal Dec 2011 #13

In a word? China BeHereNow Dec 2011 #27

Okay, so then let them plead their case to China Ruby the Liberal Dec 2011 #33

It will be very interesting to see how China reacts, or doesn't. BeHereNow Dec 2011 #34

Spot on analysis. truedelphi Dec 2011 #41

And Russia. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #129

Yup that one too. n/t BeHereNow Dec 2011 #133

Here is an excellent read about the China/Iran/Russia pipelines and agreements. BeHereNow Dec 2011 #38

Thanks! Ruby the Liberal Dec 2011 #52

Also...the countries we have been "challenging" are because of the currency issue. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #130

all the more reason to start finding other sources of energy leftyohiolib Dec 2011 #120

The MIC consumes the most oil on the planet- BeHereNow Dec 2011 #125

The Strait of Hormuz is about 26 miles wide. Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #14

Pure economic and military suicide; closing the Straight of Hormuz. gordianot Dec 2011 #17

Here we go again. nt TBF Dec 2011 #19

So the Strait of Hormuz is the new Gulf of Tonkin? US OUT OF ME !! nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2011 #26

Bite your tongue! BeHereNow Dec 2011 #32

Why can't int'l shipping just go through the territorial waters off coast of UAE? 99th_Monkey Dec 2011 #36

After all the bullshit wars we've been put through slay Dec 2011 #29

Meh.... Xolodno Dec 2011 #31

Different reason Knight Hawk Dec 2011 #110

War with Iran 90-percent Dec 2011 #35

Add to that the very real possibility that our supply lines could easily be cut (Iraq to coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #37

It's a narrow area James48 Dec 2011 #40

BY the way- James48 Dec 2011 #44

The Iranians are very afraid of Obama jaysunb Dec 2011 #45

How dare they locate their country so close to our carrier! Scuba Dec 2011 #47

More... Scuba Dec 2011 #48

simple question anakie Dec 2011 #54

They tracked a carrier? BootinUp Dec 2011 #56

I guess you think Iran has been trading all of their oil for vodka and plastic toys. A Simple Game Dec 2011 #60

Anyone recall Richard Perle? Criminal at large? BeHereNow Dec 2011 #64

Fair ones. Sure kills on commercial shipping, not so much on military vessels ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2011 #74

This is a bigger deal than you might think. AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #105

long past time for the adult in the playroom to step in. sadly this appears to be Russia. marasinghe Dec 2011 #59

I like your thinking cpwm17 Dec 2011 #126

Next war coming right up! workinclasszero Dec 2011 #65

Seen this movie before 90-percent Dec 2011 #80

The real question is, will the rest of the world finance another war in the ME, considering last 2? got root Dec 2011 #97

another Gulf of Tonkin "incident" is all the US gov needs to start another war wordpix Dec 2011 #123

Guess the only question is what month does it start. sarcasmo Dec 2011 #100

Iran is a very beautiful country eyewall Dec 2011 #115

Iran also has a milennia old traditon of planting truedelphi Dec 2011 #135

Wisest Solution 90-percent Dec 2011 #119

there was a good documentary (PBS) on Iran before little boot's reign of terror newspeak Dec 2011 #127