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Attorney in Texas

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13. There are two factors at play: house effect and bad methodology.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 04:11 PM
Jan 2016

House effect is where some pollsters consistently favor one candidate by more than the margin of error for the other contemporaneous polls.

For example, the most recent poll that had Clinton way up in Iowa was by Loras, which has a HUGE pro-Clinton house effect.

Here is how the race in Iowa has developed over the past year according to Loras polling:



Here is how the race in Iowa has developed over the past year according to EVERY OTHER LIVE PHONE pollster:



Clinton and her supporters set the bar of expectations based on Loras polling at their own risk (remember the fate of those who have won Iowa but fell short of expectations -- Harkin '92, Gephardt '88, etc.)

Also, all campaign season there has been an odd phenomenon that robo-call polls have consistently shown a large pro-Trump and pro-Clinton effect (I have not seen a convincing explanation for this, but the effect is well documented).

This explains why you see most traditional polls according to well-proven polling methods show Sanders leads in Iowa and New Hampshire with contemporaneous robo-call polls from Gravis and Monmouth that show Clinton ahead in Iowa and a tighter race in New Hampshire.

If you do nothing other than exclude robo-call polls from the Pollster aggregator, Sanders is ahead in Iowa and Sanders is comfortably up by double-digits in New Hampshire:





It does Clinton no favors to set her expectations in Iowa based on robo-call polls because, historically, falling short of expectations is almost worse than losing in Iowa.

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Also consider the effect of enthusiasm in a caucus. Qutzupalotl Jan 2016 #1
I think Iowa is a coin toss (Sanders has more enthusiasm, but Clinton has spent a FORTUNE on Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 #4
There's yet another variable: how Clinton will react to the tightening polls Qutzupalotl Jan 2016 #6
It is odd how Clinton and her supporters seem unable to draw any lesson from 2008; they are running Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 #8
A 9 point margin of error renders these polls meaningless. Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #2
Well, if you don't like this poll, what do you think of the polling aggregation of ALL live cell and Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 #7
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Sanders will come out blazing after Iowa and NH. bvar22 Jan 2016 #9
I'm not one who likes to count my chickens before they have hatched, but if Sanders were to win Iowa Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 #10
I posted a chart yesterday on how children are faring in every state. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #30
I actually feel bad for Clinton. MisterFred Jan 2016 #19
Saw a poll a few days ago that said HRC was way up in Iowa. iandhr Jan 2016 #12
There are two factors at play: house effect and bad methodology. Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 #13
This is fascinating enigmatic Jan 2016 #17
The gap between Trump's and Clinton's polling results in robo-call polls and traditional live phone Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 #18
Pollsters now... SandersDem Jan 2016 #29
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Definitely! I suspect that most Sanders supporters will join with O'Malley if there is any caucus Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 #15
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D- for accuracy. I did not write anyone "would have to choose between Bernie and Hillary." I did not Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 #22
stated below SandersDem Jan 2016 #28
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Not so sure. Hillary has big business and wallstreet behind her. I don't know enough about O'malley. trillion Jan 2016 #25
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Glad to see there are informed voters out there. trillion Jan 2016 #24
If they weren't there would be NO need for Bloomberg to jump in if Hillary doesn't... stillwaiting Jan 2016 #32
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