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BumRushDaShow

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54. You already discredited yourself
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 06:44 PM
Jan 2016

The "facts" are that "discrimination" is different from "segregation" and the armed forces were SEGREGATED and THAT is a FACT and that remained in effect under FDR through his terms in office until Truman signed his own EO that banned the practice and desegregated the military. FDR's EO was essentially reiterating "separate but equal" because it did not require the integration.

So to try to make up for his lack of "Bully Pulpit", he sent his wife out to soothe the black community (e.g., riding around with the SEGREGATED Tuskegee Airman and shaming the DAR to allow my hometown's most famous opera singer Marian Anderson to sing somewhere in D.C. with a large enough venue, where she wasn't already banned because of her black face)...

The "facts" are that FDR herded Japanese-American citizens into concentration camps (ask George Takei about that one). The "facts" are a black person (like my mother who initially attended Howard University before returning here to Temple U) were required to move to the back cars of the trains when they crossed the Mason-Dixon line into MD and headed towards the segregated city of Washington D.C.

The denial is just breath-taking.

The EO that you cite is no different from a similar one that Obama signed regarding discrimination against LBGT employees/contractors in the federal government yet on DU, that type of EO was "not enough" because... "Walking shoes" and "Bully Pulpit" and other such nonsense. The LAW had to be changed and that is finally happening. But under FDR, it wasn't happening because he was fearful of southern backlash. In fact, under Eisenhower, the Supreme Court finally made the move to overturn the laws that FDR wouldn't push to overturn... and ironically, it was not Kennedy but Johnson who finally got the more comprehensive Civil Rights Law passed beyond the one in 1957 (that again under Eisenhower, not FDR, attempted to codify Brown v Board).

Keep trying, you'll "get it" eventually or perhaps not. And look up who Eric Holder is married to (and who she is related to).

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