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(39,181 posts) Fri Jun 1, 2012, 11:33 AM Jun 2012

Venezuela bans private gun ownership [View all]

Source: BBC

Venezuela has brought a new gun law into effect which bans the commercial sale of firearms and ammunition.

Until now, anyone with a gun permit could buy arms from a private company.

Under the new law, only the army, police and certain groups like security companies will be able to buy arms from the state-owned weapons manufacturer and importer.

The ban is the latest attempt by the government to improve security and cut crime ahead of elections in October. Venezuela saw more than 18,000 murders last year and the capital, Caracas, is thought to be one of the most dangerous cities in Latin America.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-18288430

Because we know that the police have our best interest at heart and are the only group that can be trusted to use guns responsibly.

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Venezuela bans private gun ownership [View all] hack89 Jun 2012 OP

I'm sure the criminals in Caracas will be eager to turn in their weapons in honor of Dear Leader slackmaster Jun 2012 #1

mexican chainsaws would be the alternative may3rd Jun 2012 #61

Some people will celebrate the removal of their freedom NeedleCast Jun 2012 #2

They'll be here any second to tell us we need to educate ourselves about Venezuela slackmaster Jun 2012 #3

Sanity. nt BlueIris Jun 2012 #4

Yes - because violent criminals always obey gun control laws hack89 Jun 2012 #7

Private security companies can have guns. Lasher Jun 2012 #5

Are Chavez's Brown Shirts going to go door to door... -..__... Jun 2012 #6

Is that you, Glenn Beck? harmonicon Jun 2012 #16

But it makes perfect sense to call someone Glenn Beck because you disagree with them. Lasher Jun 2012 #21

No, it's Glenn Beck who I first heard use that argument without getting called on it. harmonicon Jun 2012 #26

Review your history appal_jack Jun 2012 #36

Link to Hitler and Stalin opposing private gun ownership? tabasco Jun 2012 #49

lots of nutter sites, which I won't link to, but Wikipedia too appal_jack Jun 2012 #58

Interesting. tabasco Jun 2012 #65

That last quote is in reference to the people of the eastern nations that germany conquered on the w AtheistCrusader Jun 2012 #80

I believe you're somewhat incorrect about Germany... LanternWaste Jun 2012 #52

See link immediately above. appal_jack Jun 2012 #59

It still represented a relaxation of the firearms laws from the Weimar Republic. AtheistCrusader Jun 2012 #81

True enough appal_jack Jun 2012 #98

Hitler also implemented a 40 hour work week, paid vacations, and social security Major Nikon Jun 2012 #75

I hate to break it to you, but, uh... Scootaloo Jun 2012 #79

That was beautiful, man. (nt) harmonicon Jun 2012 #86

Only lunatics and some Teabaggers believe that they could somehow oppose the federal Flatulo Jun 2012 #89

Straw men & lies... appal_jack Jun 2012 #100

Yes, I am the one bringing that up Scootaloo Jun 2012 #101

Ignorance is bliss, isn't it? thegoogolplex123 Dec 2012 #118

Welcome to DU Scootaloo Dec 2012 #119

It would be nice if Ted Nugent had his weapons confiscated Kingofalldems Jun 2012 #8

And the gungeoneers come out of their hidy hole. onehandle Jun 2012 #9

So you don't view this as a news worthy story? nt hack89 Jun 2012 #11

With the gun-grabbers flailing incoherently behind them, apparently. appal_jack Jun 2012 #44

I am very glad to see the people of Harmony Blue Jun 2012 #10

I don't share your faith in police hack89 Jun 2012 #12

Provided that "getting killed by somebody with a gun" isn't a crime, sure. boppers Jun 2012 #72

Define "huge" hack89 Jun 2012 #93

300% increase in Florida. boppers Jun 2012 #105

To the massive number of 36 hack89 Jun 2012 #106

How many of your family would you consider significant? boppers Jun 2012 #107

Is zero deaths your standard? hack89 Jun 2012 #108

No people who died "because they needed to be killed" is my goal. boppers Jun 2012 #110

SYG is not a free ticket to kill hack89 Jun 2012 #111

People who carry guns usually already know how to look like cowardly victims. boppers Jun 2012 #112

If that is the best you have hack89 Jun 2012 #113

Indeed. boppers Jun 2012 #115

"May issue" is going away hack89 Jun 2012 #116

That's right, never been safer... Scootaloo Jun 2012 #85

150,000,000 gun owners. 8700 murders. Do the math and tell me about that "tendency". hack89 Jun 2012 #94

You're underlining my base point. Scootaloo Jun 2012 #102

You really haven't being paying attention, have you? hack89 Jun 2012 #104

The difference is that the European states who've severely Flatulo Jun 2012 #46

I would not welcome this ban with open arms and I live in VT cali Jun 2012 #76

Prepping for what's coming when St Hugo dies Dreamer Tatum Jun 2012 #13

Certainly his private militia will still be armed. nt hack89 Jun 2012 #14

He has a private militia now? Fascinating. That's a news story I'd like to see a link to. (nt) harmonicon Jun 2012 #15

Not familiar with the Bolivarian militia? hack89 Jun 2012 #17

That's not the same thing. (nt) harmonicon Jun 2012 #24

An armed militia answerable only to the President? hack89 Jun 2012 #28

Perhaps you've heard of the Secret Service or the CIA. (nt) harmonicon Jun 2012 #29

And perhaps you have heard of Congressional oversight and budget powers? hack89 Jun 2012 #30

In a way you could say that they all are, as the US president is the commander... harmonicon Jun 2012 #32

It will all be moot in a couple of months. hack89 Jun 2012 #35

chavez polling at 45% to capriles 31%.. frylock Jun 2012 #51

He will be dead. nt hack89 Jun 2012 #54

Vulture much? n/t bitchkitty Jun 2012 #70

Just pointing out the likely truth. nt hack89 Jun 2012 #95

Isnt the Secret Service under the Treasury? nt Flatulo Jun 2012 #47

Oh, possibly in theory - I'd forgotten about that. harmonicon Jun 2012 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jun 2012 #37

No. Part of the Department of Homeland Security hack89 Jun 2012 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jun 2012 #42

Why can't it be part of the governement chain of command hack89 Jun 2012 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jun 2012 #48

Because the article specifically states it was taken out of the military chain of command? nt hack89 Jun 2012 #53

Answering out of courtesy, deleting the rest. I don't do Gungeon threads. freshwest Jun 2012 #57

So Venezula and Chavez are not news worthy? Ok. nt hack89 Jun 2012 #62

It's a twofer!Room for gun wavers to all focus on the Venezuelan President who might grab their guns Judi Lynn Jun 2012 #18

"Not only was it authentic frontier gibberish, ...." hack89 Jun 2012 #19

That brings Venezuela closer into line with the UK for example dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #20

England does not have a universal gun ban hack89 Jun 2012 #22

All guns start out legal. Which is why England got it right. onehandle Jun 2012 #23

Criminals don't care about gun laws. Flatulo Jun 2012 #25

and ? dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #27

So the Brits need to focus on criminals and not guns. nt hack89 Jun 2012 #31

No doubt they'll ban guns again, since it apparently didn't take the first time. nt Flatulo Jun 2012 #50

I'm suitably astounded with your deficit in comprehension / lack of knowledge of the UK dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #55

And I'm likewise astounded by your inability to recognize irony. nt Flatulo Jun 2012 #77

Still a tiny fraction per 100k people compared to here in gun madness central. onehandle Jun 2012 #33

That's not true. AtheistCrusader Jun 2012 #83

Dunno. I'm pretty pro-gun, pro-RKBA but AtheistCrusader Jun 2012 #82

I guess they think it will be different from Jamaica. crayfish Jun 2012 #34

I don't neccessarily agree with a total ban. Comrade_McKenzie Jun 2012 #38

By government supplied doctor's of course hack89 Jun 2012 #40

It would help filter out the paranoid. boppers Jun 2012 #73

And the political opposition or those with the wrong colored skin. hack89 Jun 2012 #90

What about psychiatric exams to vote? FrodosPet Jun 2012 #60

Flying a plane, driving a bus, handling fireworks, selling alcohol... boppers Jun 2012 #74

Dictatorships always do Ter Jun 2012 #41

Funny, I thought easy access to firearms was supposed to prevent government tyranny like this... nt killbotfactory Jun 2012 #71

Vive Chavez!!!! harun Jun 2012 #45

I don't know what good this would do. Nolimit Jun 2012 #56

Venezuela Launches Official Production of Third-Generation Kalashnikov Rifles ( 2010 article ) may3rd Jun 2012 #63

Guaranteed flame war combining Hugo and guns geek tragedy Jun 2012 #64

I tried to find an Olive Garden angle but couldn't. nt hack89 Jun 2012 #66

NJ Olive Gardens are obviously mafiaosa fronts Baclava Jun 2012 #68

Kid, the next time I say something like "Let's go someplace like Venezuela, slackmaster Jun 2012 #67

NRA members; greiner3 Jun 2012 #69

Hugo is right on the money.... unkachuck Jun 2012 #78

"Hugo Chavez's government says the ultimate aim is to disarm all civilians" nt hack89 Jun 2012 #91

Venezuela has historically high murder rates, gun violence: Chavez gets blamed and attacked for it Alamuti Lotus Jun 2012 #84

Yes. Prometheus Bound Jun 2012 #88

It getting worse under Chavez hack89 Jun 2012 #92

Chavez has been using the wealth of that nation to buy the votes of the poor Flatulo Jun 2012 #96

I'm sure all those poor, toothless, exploited bitchkitty Jun 2012 #109

LOL Flatulo Jun 2012 #114

I don't get it. How does free dentistry and longer coffee breaks for the poor become 'looting'. Prometheus Bound Jun 2012 #117

"Venezuela" what does that mean? treestar Jun 2012 #97

I have no doubt it was completely legal hack89 Jun 2012 #99

Completely dumb. (nt) w4rma Jun 2012 #103