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90. Biden is establisment. He will have the exact same issue as Hillary.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:03 AM
Feb 2016

Times have changed. Nobody want's the establishment candidate. Not even the Repubs.

Hillary's new 2016 progressiveness is proof that her voters have to be told she is progressive or won't voter for her. She has to pretend to be for every thing Bernie is. Of course they seem willfully blind about who's on her super pac.

I doubt that Biden could defeat Bernie in a head to head run. nt ladjf Feb 2016 #1
Nope, he won't. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #5
because nothing says democracy like trying to 86 your own constituent's roguevalley Feb 2016 #35
Murdoch is trying to draft Kerry dixiegrrrrl Feb 2016 #72
No Democratic Party primary candidate can win without the black vote. Biden is beloved in the Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #56
When Biden was running for the nomination... HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #57
I guess I'm missing this. trillion Feb 2016 #92
I can't speak for LS JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #107
I'm offended about your stance that the blacks aren't prepared for college so shouldn't have it free trillion Feb 2016 #113
Since I'm on your ignore list JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #122
a Bernie fan lecturing a black woman about "the blacks"? mwrguy Feb 2016 #126
You got a "free college" response to this JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #110
LOL!! You got it. Absolutely right! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #119
She doubled down JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #123
He could confuse some people who see the "old white-haired man" cprise Feb 2016 #47
My thought was that Biden would enter the race if Clinton dropped out. nt ladjf Feb 2016 #49
Clinton is not going to drop out until at least SheilaT Feb 2016 #65
My personal opinion about this race is that ladjf Feb 2016 #69
Keep in mind that we are still very early in the primary SheilaT Feb 2016 #70
You may well be totally correct. He has continued to amaze with by his ladjf Feb 2016 #74
? trillion Feb 2016 #93
We apparently have differing definitions of the word "charisma". ladjf Feb 2016 #96
No Democratic Party primary candidate can win without the black vote. Biden is beloved in the Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #55
Can you provide some substance. trillion Feb 2016 #94
Substance: Black voters' vote MATTERS! That's substance. Biden is associated with Obama. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #97
They forget how shabbily he treated Anita Hill BuelahWitch Feb 2016 #98
Many black people have forgiven Biden because his record speaks for itself. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #99
You still seem unable to cite Bidens record in support of black people. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #104
How are Sanders suppoters being racists? trillion Feb 2016 #120
I wonder who the Dem bigwig is, and Biden is too late to run now wordpix Feb 2016 #79
Biden is establisment. He will have the exact same issue as Hillary. trillion Feb 2016 #90
Damn! HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #2
In general... Califonz Feb 2016 #3
This dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #13
I doubt that donor's judgement and influence. nt greyl Feb 2016 #4
he/she may be influential but I agree about the judgment wordpix Feb 2016 #80
Not going to happen. SheilaT Feb 2016 #6
I believe there is mostly a problem with getting on the ballot in many states. mikehiggins Feb 2016 #32
That's a very important point. SheilaT Feb 2016 #64
Well it is not really necessary to be in primaries. LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #102
That is assuming an actual brokered convention SheilaT Feb 2016 #115
I Heard Marco Rubio Took Some Shots At Bernie Today As Well.... global1 Feb 2016 #7
Rubio would be wise to leave Bernie alone. nt ladjf Feb 2016 #8
Marco- 'no exceptions for rape or incest' -Rubio tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #12
who's his billionaire? Isn't it the Kochsuckers? wordpix Feb 2016 #81
Sheldon Adelson, Wasserman-Shultz's buddy. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #105
Circular firing squad in action. elleng Feb 2016 #9
Biden buried this trial balloon for good with his announcement. n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2016 #10
"Big money is freaking out" Populist_Prole Feb 2016 #11
yes, let's see them do some heavy lifting for once wordpix Feb 2016 #82
From the letter.... tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #14
Batmann just needs to keep his hands off those foul balls. (for Cubs fans) HERVEPA Feb 2016 #52
We went thru this in 2008 with Al Gore - remember? People are always freaking out. jillan Feb 2016 #15
A fresh and shiny candidate who voted in favor of the Iraq War Dems to Win Feb 2016 #16
The Entrenched and Cushy Elite Establishment SoapBox Feb 2016 #17
Bernie CANNOT win lobodons Feb 2016 #18
^^^^^Empty supposition^^^^^ JudyM Feb 2016 #44
That sounds like buying into Republican fear. Don't do it. Gregorian Feb 2016 #75
Team Hillary seems not to share your opinion Hydra Feb 2016 #91
Was ready to get my pitchfork and torch, but it seems this guy is just a big, big Biden fanboy Turn CO Blue Feb 2016 #19
Although the chances of a "deadlocked convention" are not what they were... Peace Patriot Feb 2016 #23
You do understand that a brokered convention can only occur SheilaT Feb 2016 #67
Not exactly. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #108
I will still argue that the likelihood of this SheilaT Feb 2016 #116
agree with a lot you wrote, but with only 2 people karynnj Feb 2016 #71
Will be interesting to see how this plays out tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #20
Keep in mind that the phrase "Loony Left" was the product of the DLC, not the Republicans. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #21
Actually, it predates them nxylas Feb 2016 #25
Granted but it was embraced by the DLC as a pejorative to it's own Base.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #28
Yeah, it may have had some strategic value in the '90s nxylas Feb 2016 #37
The Beltway has come to the conclusion that war is a policy choice... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #39
Joe Biden enters, he takes from Hillary, not Bernie. Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #22
Enter Elizabeth Warren billhicks76 Feb 2016 #24
she enters as Bernie's running mate wordpix Feb 2016 #83
I'll Take It!!!!! billhicks76 Feb 2016 #88
Most of the primary filing deadlines have passed. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #109
I Meant VP billhicks76 Feb 2016 #111
Oh ok. Got it. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #114
coincidentally, WAPO has an editorial on this today 6chars Feb 2016 #26
oh give it a rest, as if Bernie can't do the job wordpix Feb 2016 #84
OMG!!! NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #27
LOL.. Cha Feb 2016 #30
Big money just doesn't get it. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #29
JDPriestly, I'm really enjoying your posts. You rock! Sparky 1 Feb 2016 #36
largest worldwide employer is the US DoD... getagrip_already Feb 2016 #43
You are confirming my statements. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #87
Holy shit! +1000! HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #58
"it feels like fast food is the top employer in the country"--you forget casinos/gambling wordpix Feb 2016 #85
You are probably right. As I recall, gambling was very popular in the century prior to the JDPriestly Feb 2016 #86
interesting observation. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #124
Thanks for the quote. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #125
I found it on the internet but I can't find it now. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #128
I'll take Biden if Clinton flames out...anyone but Bernie BluegrassDem Feb 2016 #31
A month or so back, that's what they said about him in a primary. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #53
the guy who's ahead of Clinton against all the Pubs? MisterP Feb 2016 #59
I take it you haven't had a chance to see any of the polls SheilaT Feb 2016 #68
wow, one/two donors. ericson00 Feb 2016 #33
Backroom should beware Wibly Feb 2016 #34
So they've thrown Bloomberg under the bus now and are back to Biden. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #38
Bloomberg himself suggested he'd run. Third Party. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #117
Sure, Biden for change Helen Borg Feb 2016 #40
It's insulting to Bernie bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #41
Joe? what, is the bankruptcy bill expiring or something? islandmkl Feb 2016 #42
The corporations are scared. There might be a level playing field with Bernie. Gregorian Feb 2016 #45
Why are the refusals of college coaches and politicians given short shrift? IDemo Feb 2016 #46
A 3rd geriatric candidate? left-of-center2012 Feb 2016 #48
"Democratic Donor" = Hillary Donor SoapBox Feb 2016 #50
Oh, please, do! Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #51
No, they're not on the run. MrModerate Feb 2016 #54
I'm all in for Joe. WheelWalker Feb 2016 #60
Bernie Sanders houston16revival Feb 2016 #61
Actually Bernin Feb 2016 #62
Washington Post opinion piece on the possibility Babel_17 Feb 2016 #63
This kind of naked manipulation of the political process ... Trajan Feb 2016 #66
Biden is a better candidate than TeddyR Feb 2016 #73
I think you're missing the point of why anyone would vote for Bernie. trillion Feb 2016 #95
The oligarchy is on the run Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #76
One more sign that Clinton's campaign is crumbling CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #77
It's not a Bernie loss in the General that freaks out the Dem leadership. It's a Bernie Win. yourout Feb 2016 #78
sorta the flipside of why Kissinger greenlit Pinochet--they were afraid not that Allende MisterP Feb 2016 #103
Ding, ding, ding!!!! HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #118
Nevermind. Excellent thread, thanks. ancianita Feb 2016 #89
And by Big Money, you mean one donor? brooklynite Feb 2016 #100
I believe Reuters said dozens tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #101
No, the article said that ONE donor EMAILED dozens... brooklynite Feb 2016 #106
here ya go tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #129
Okay, this is about 1 donor. But lets be real, the donor was emailing other donors. trillion Feb 2016 #121
If Primary voters feel like they got a bait-and-switch from their own party insiders, hughee99 Feb 2016 #112
So now it's "hate on Joe Biden" -day? Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #127
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