Venezuela bans private gun ownership

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85. That's right, never been safer...

Without any significant rise or fall in gun control legislation in the last 15 years. Unless, I suppose you hold that our crime rate is tied to whether firearms are allowed in national parks... Actually the trend makes me think that the frequent claim that "GUN CONTROL CAUSES CRIME!" is just as false as its opposite, and that crime rate just isn't tied to pro- or anti-gun legislation.

Now, as to your aside. Tell me, where do these violent criminals come from? And for that matter, what is the source of their guns? Surely neither are the result of spontaneous generation. So of course these violent criminals had to start somewhere as non-violent non-criminals, and those guns they use most likely originated in the hands of "law abiding citizens." Either law-abiding gun owners have a strange tendency to go rogue, or they have an equally strange tendency to having their weapons misplaced / stolen...