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In reply to the discussion: Venezuela bans private gun ownership [View all]appal_jack
(3,813 posts)100. Straw men & lies...
Look, Scootaloo, you're the only one bringing up "Red Dawn" & the "EBIL GUBBMINT." All I said was:
Me, I'll stick with the good ol' Jeffersonian/Tom Paine/Eleanor Roosevelt/Howard Dean American continuum of thought that has proven time & again that private firearms ownership is perfectly compatible with, and possibly essential for, true freedom.
(I corrected the grammar, which I can't do to the original post from this i-pad.)
Are you denying that America's ideal of personal freedom has included the right to keep & bear arms since its inception? If not, what's your point?
As for your notion that any totalitarian dictator is, by definition, right-wing & fascist? That is simply laughable. Stalin grew out of the Bolshevik revolution. I maintain that any revolutionary agenda, leftist or rightist, that does not embrace a core concept of rights and freedoms at its inception risks a veer toward totalitarianism. Communism's embrace of a 'dictatorship of the Proletariat' exemplifies this flaw. America's Founding Fathers, for all their shortcomings, got this point right in our revolution. Lenin got it wrong, which led to Stalin. The Khmer Rouge got it wrong, and that led to Pol Pot. Your willful denial of reality reeks of political correctness. I prefer my progressive values to be rooted in reality, thank you.
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I'm sure the criminals in Caracas will be eager to turn in their weapons in honor of Dear Leader
slackmaster
Jun 2012
#1
They'll be here any second to tell us we need to educate ourselves about Venezuela
slackmaster
Jun 2012
#3
But it makes perfect sense to call someone Glenn Beck because you disagree with them.
Lasher
Jun 2012
#21
No, it's Glenn Beck who I first heard use that argument without getting called on it.
harmonicon
Jun 2012
#26
That last quote is in reference to the people of the eastern nations that germany conquered on the w
AtheistCrusader
Jun 2012
#80
It still represented a relaxation of the firearms laws from the Weimar Republic.
AtheistCrusader
Jun 2012
#81
Hitler also implemented a 40 hour work week, paid vacations, and social security
Major Nikon
Jun 2012
#75
Only lunatics and some Teabaggers believe that they could somehow oppose the federal
Flatulo
Jun 2012
#89
150,000,000 gun owners. 8700 murders. Do the math and tell me about that "tendency".
hack89
Jun 2012
#94
He has a private militia now? Fascinating. That's a news story I'd like to see a link to. (nt)
harmonicon
Jun 2012
#15
In a way you could say that they all are, as the US president is the commander...
harmonicon
Jun 2012
#32
Because the article specifically states it was taken out of the military chain of command? nt
hack89
Jun 2012
#53
It's a twofer!Room for gun wavers to all focus on the Venezuelan President who might grab their guns
Judi Lynn
Jun 2012
#18
No doubt they'll ban guns again, since it apparently didn't take the first time. nt
Flatulo
Jun 2012
#50
I'm suitably astounded with your deficit in comprehension / lack of knowledge of the UK
dipsydoodle
Jun 2012
#55
Still a tiny fraction per 100k people compared to here in gun madness central.
onehandle
Jun 2012
#33
Funny, I thought easy access to firearms was supposed to prevent government tyranny like this... nt
killbotfactory
Jun 2012
#71
Venezuela Launches Official Production of Third-Generation Kalashnikov Rifles ( 2010 article )
may3rd
Jun 2012
#63
Kid, the next time I say something like "Let's go someplace like Venezuela,
slackmaster
Jun 2012
#67
Venezuela has historically high murder rates, gun violence: Chavez gets blamed and attacked for it
Alamuti Lotus
Jun 2012
#84
I don't get it. How does free dentistry and longer coffee breaks for the poor become 'looting'.
Prometheus Bound
Jun 2012
#117