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yellerpup

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16. Almost everyone in Oklahoma has NA heritage
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 04:47 PM
Jun 2012

of some sort. If your family was counted in a census in Indian Territory and was living there prior to the Land Run (1889) they were most certainly Native Americans displaced from some other part of the country. Whites had to have written permission to be there--however, because I.T. was outside the jurisdiction of any law enforcement except tribal laws, it was a 'safe haven' for those of any color who were outside the law. Warren probably grew up like every other Oklahoma kid and heard tales of her Cherokee heritage from her family. Many eligible families did not sign up for the final Dawes Rolls accounting of tribal citizens in advance of the distribution of land allotments, a program invented by the federal government, because they didn't want to be classified as Indians. Considering the history of government betrayal of the indigenous people of this continent, I really can't blame them. The first NA got the vote in 1926, for instance. Anyway, I'm sure she is part-Cherokee but unless her family signed up on the Dawes Rolls, she would have no way of qualifying for tribal membership. No matter how 'the controversy' shakes out, it means nothing. Except, as you say, a distraction. I'll trust her to steer the debate back to issues.

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She'd better get this heritage question resolved quick. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2012 #1
It's not so much the question.. naaman fletcher Jun 2012 #10
Almost everyone in Oklahoma has NA heritage yellerpup Jun 2012 #16
Right. Lots of Americans are of mixed ancestry, but their ancestors did not want to admit it. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #18
The legal records do not always tell the full story.... yellerpup Jun 2012 #27
My 4th or 5th great grandmother is a Ross OKNancy Jun 2012 #23
To find your Ross ancestor must have been exciting. yellerpup Jun 2012 #30
my mom has actually found her OKNancy Jun 2012 #31
That must have been a rewarding moment yellerpup Jun 2012 #32
Well, she just won the nomination at the MA Democratic convention with more than 95% of ballots. Mass Jun 2012 #2
That is impressive karynnj Jun 2012 #36
LOL. "Seeks to revive" "floundering" "controversy" -- gee, I wonder which side the media is on. PSPS Jun 2012 #3
No kidding. That's pretty blatant. DavidDvorkin Jun 2012 #5
"neck and neck" or "floundering"? doomed over the ethnicity of a great-great-great grandparent? unblock Jun 2012 #8
Similar spin is suddenly happening protect our future Jun 2012 #9
That was what I thought too - I read that they were neck and neck--- MSM is stealing her thunder underpants Jun 2012 #24
You think she is getting it bad, just google news on Obama Jobs Election. I don't even dare post Purveyor Jun 2012 #26
Yep. NY Times is such a right-wing rag (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #42
I don't believe her campaign is floundering Marrah_G Jun 2012 #4
Intrade has it at 53.9% for "Democratic candidate to win" DavidDvorkin Jun 2012 #6
I wonder if they passed Statistics 101? karynnj Jun 2012 #37
It's not an either/or choice DavidDvorkin Jun 2012 #43
I'll definitely not be voting for her slackmaster Jun 2012 #7
lol nt BootinUp Jun 2012 #15
O.K., karmkay Jun 2012 #20
Hah! eom BlueCaliDem Jun 2012 #39
It appears the media newblewtoo Jun 2012 #11
What do they say about Romney's buying and destroying companies? JDPriestly Jun 2012 #19
MUMs the word in corporate media. They're all on the attack of Obama BlueCaliDem Jun 2012 #40
Warren won't have a primary opponent. She got 95% of the convention votes cali Jun 2012 #12
Not Flatpicker Jun 2012 #13
A WTF moment, because I don't see a floundering candidate, screw the Indian heritage BS, this woman mother earth Jun 2012 #14
Warren's in big, big trouble MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #17
You ARE just being sarcastic, right? RBInMaine Jun 2012 #34
Manny doesn't much like Warren, I believe. BlueCaliDem Jun 2012 #41
Sarcastic, but perhaps too dry. MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #44
Yes, sarcastic! Nt MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #45
The headline sucks. nt BlueMTexpat Jun 2012 #21
I feel as though I've landed on another planet. CBHagman Jun 2012 #22
They (rw) Always Control The Message Bigredhunk Jun 2012 #25
If Obama voters get their ASSES to the polls, unlike 2010, and vote down ballot... onehandle Jun 2012 #28
Dear New York Times: Your concern is noted. backscatter712 Jun 2012 #29
I want to hear her speaking clear and plain about the issues, WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2012 #33
She needs to GET THE HELL ON OFFENSE and STAY THERE ! Quit Fuckwadding around ! RBInMaine Jun 2012 #35
Do these people even read pollls? Mr.Turnip Jun 2012 #38
“And let me be clear. I am not backing down. I didn’t get in this race to fold up the first time I mother earth Jun 2012 #46
This is scribble Jun 2012 #47
Oh, for Pete's Sake. It is established that she's part NA Jack Rabbit Jun 2012 #48
This is the state that Ted Kennedy represented for decades AJTheMan Jun 2012 #49
Intrade has her at 55% to win the seat DavidDvorkin Jun 2012 #50
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