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68. This will have to be decided finally by the Supreme Court.

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:10 PM

Feb 2016

This is not a 'birther' issue, and it is folly to suggest it is. This is a foundational legal issue.

'Article I of the Constitution grants Congress the power to naturalize an alien — that is, Congress may remove an alien’s legal disabilities, such as not being allowed to vote. But Article II of the Constitution expressly adopts the legal status of the natural-born citizen and requires that a president possess that status. However we feel about allowing naturalized immigrants to reach for the stars, the Constitution must be amended before one of them can attain the office of president. Congress simply does not have the power to convert someone born outside the United States into a natural-born citizen.'

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ted-cruz-is-not-eligible-to-be-president/2016/01/12/1484a7d0-b7af-11e5-99f3-184bc379b12d_story.html

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Then they'd be stuck with Trump. mpcamb Feb 2016 #1

or rubio elleng Feb 2016 #3

I think he's kind of a weak link. mpcamb Feb 2016 #6

yes but elleng Feb 2016 #7

Yes; stuck with Trump, but.. Grins Feb 2016 #55

Rubio is eligible, DOES meet the Constitutional requirements elleng Feb 2016 #56

As scary as that is, Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #5

'Trump would be better than Cruz. ' mpcamb Feb 2016 #8

Who would be the least scary loss. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #11

Amen mpcamb Feb 2016 #45

I suspect 2naSalit Feb 2016 #16

I read that Jeb is almost out of money. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #29

Doesn't mean he has to drop out... 2naSalit Feb 2016 #30

' Jeb ... almost out of money.' mpcamb Feb 2016 #46

Good. elleng Feb 2016 #2

Cruz is my biggest fear. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #12

cruz is a HUGE fear, elleng Feb 2016 #13

I could easily see Trump Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #17

I agree at some point he'll recognize 'running' was a MISTAKE. elleng Feb 2016 #19

We'll see how it shakes out. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #20

Which worries me about who his potential running mate would be... Jon Ace Feb 2016 #25

Nah, he can't stand her... 2naSalit Feb 2016 #31

No way. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #35

That didn't bother W very much...... llmart Feb 2016 #57

Bush was happy sitting at the ranch Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #58

Interesting. Seems the issue of standing is covered here. seaotter Feb 2016 #4

What if the lower courts rule against him, and he takes it to the SCOTUS Yavin4 Feb 2016 #9

IL primary is March 15th Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #14

if lower court(s) rule AGAINST him elleng Feb 2016 #15

Can't you just feel the karma coming on this? mnhtnbb Feb 2016 #21

SUCH karma, elleng Feb 2016 #22

I love your beautiful mind! JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #52

Glad to help, Gen! elleng Feb 2016 #53

Despite your hopes it would be 8-0 for Cruz. former9thward Feb 2016 #60

The Supreme Court has NOT decided this issue. elleng Feb 2016 #61

It IS settled. former9thward Feb 2016 #63

It is NOT decided, elleng Feb 2016 #64

Wrong again. former9thward Feb 2016 #65

Are you an attorney? elleng Feb 2016 #66

Take it up with Congress. former9thward Feb 2016 #67

This will have to be decided finally by the Supreme Court. elleng Feb 2016 #68

Totally birther. former9thward Feb 2016 #69

I'm happy to acknowledge that, as cruz was CLEARLY not born in the United States, elleng Feb 2016 #70

Then the lower court ruling stands. nt MADem Feb 2016 #27

It is different than you may think elljay Feb 2016 #34

Then the lower court ruling stands as it was decided, AND ALSO sets no legal precedent. Volaris Feb 2016 #43

GOP cannibalizing itself! This should be entertaining… johnfunk Feb 2016 #10

I don't see where Mr. Joyce can possibly assert any COLGATE4 Feb 2016 #18

Prolly will be elleng Feb 2016 #23

Yep. I don't think Trump actually has the balls to do COLGATE4 Feb 2016 #24

Maybe. elleng Feb 2016 #26

Rubio might just be stupid (or crazy) enough to do it COLGATE4 Feb 2016 #28

Could be, I guess. elleng Feb 2016 #33

... 2naSalit Feb 2016 #32

Is it wrong of me to want Cruz to win in order to lengthen the Republican in-fighting? LonePirate Feb 2016 #36

Actually, he may not be a "natural born citizen". JohnnyRingo Feb 2016 #37

He ISN'T a 'natural born citizen.' elleng Feb 2016 #38

Yes, "instantly naturalized" at birth via his mother's citizenship, but NOT "natural born". . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2016 #42

Unless she gave up her US citizenship Ilsa Feb 2016 #71

He was born to a mother who never renounced her U.S. citizenship rocktivity Feb 2016 #39

cruz mother not an american citizen after registering to vote in canada captainarizona Feb 2016 #40

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #41

TRUST ME...whether we end up with Hillary or Bernie, you DO NOT WANT Cruz on the ballot. Miles Archer Feb 2016 #44

so what were the laws about voting and dual citizenship at the time? greymattermom Feb 2016 #47

So What Would Happen If The SCOTUS Took Up The Case? Corey_Baker08 Feb 2016 #48

The issue is bubbling up in Indiana too ... Myrina Feb 2016 #49

Allow me leftynyc Feb 2016 #50

GOP wants Cruz out, he is biggest fear. What if lower courts rule 4 Cruz; goes to SC to a 4-4 tie? Justice Feb 2016 #51

Canadian. Anchor. Baby. AngryAmish Feb 2016 #54

I already know who wins this...the law firms! 24601 Feb 2016 #59

That is surely true! elleng Feb 2016 #62

It's going nowhere rusty fender Feb 2016 #72

A well known expert has settled the issue IDemo Feb 2016 #73