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FreeState

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39. Actually it was because he was gay... heres the letter from his stake
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 02:23 AM
Jun 2012
http://www.mormonboy.com/blog/2010/07/02/excommunication-letter/

Dear Brother Fales,
This letter will confirm the decision made at a Church disciplinary council held in your behalf on July 16, 2000, in the Sandy Utah Canyon View Stake that you be excommunicated from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for the practice of homosexuality. you should know that if you wish to appeal this decision that you may do so to the First Presidency through President Hunt.

Steven, we are most grateful that we had the opportunity to meet with you at this important meeting. Your honesty, openness, and the expression of your values and feelings were genuine and sincere. During that short time together we felt of your spirit and commend you for the devotion and dedication you have shown over your life to the Lord and His Church. We are saddened that your behavior has brought you to this point in your life.

Excommunication is the most severe Church disciplinary action. A person who is excommunicated is no longer a member of the Church. As such, you no longer have any privileges of Church membership. You may not wear temple garments or pay tithes and offerings. You may attend public Church meetings if your conduct is orderly, and we encourage you to do so. However, in such meetings you may not give a talk, offer a public prayer, partake of the sacrament, or participate in the sustaining of church officers.


This is very rate regardless. It could be an overzealous Bishop and Stake President, but regardless its hard to find this happening within the church in the last 20 or so years (this is one of maybe two cases I know of, and I know a lot of exmo gays).

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yeah...its the trumad Jun 2012 #1
I could only wish that were true FreeState Jun 2012 #14
Didn't realize it was Brigham Young that imposed the whites-only priesthood thing. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #24
More info FreeState Jun 2012 #38
It's a Trap. xfundy Jun 2012 #2
That was my first reaction too. frogmarch Jun 2012 #19
Yes. Interesting timing and it fits with my theory on modern political races: KurtNYC Jun 2012 #47
I don't think so Sekhmets Daughter Jun 2012 #49
Me too - "Lying for the Lord" whereby Mormons are allowed to lie to non-believers riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #52
I am proud of those who Fearless Jun 2012 #3
It's not easy to admit publicly, that you were wrong. justice1 Jun 2012 #6
I'm intolerant of intolerance agent46 Jun 2012 #4
It is a monolithic church. LeftyMom Jun 2012 #5
10 marching in SFO is one thing. boppers Jun 2012 #10
Do they tithe? LeftyMom Jun 2012 #11
Do you pay your taxes? boppers Jun 2012 #15
My favorite part of a tax audit is when the IRS agent asks if I masturbate. LeftyMom Jun 2012 #17
Nice. Phlem Jun 2012 #25
Not in any temple recommend interview I had. boppers Jun 2012 #28
You weren't asked if you were keeping the law of chastity? LeftyMom Jun 2012 #31
I wasn't asked if I masturbated. boppers Jun 2012 #33
As a teenager and a missionary I was asked multiple times FreeState Jun 2012 #37
Ewwww. boppers Jun 2012 #40
Catholic? I was born and raised LDS FreeState Jun 2012 #43
Wow. That's a creepy ward and MTC. boppers Jun 2012 #44
+1 totodeinhere Jun 2012 #51
It's one tiny little baby step for those Mormons. trickyguy Jun 2012 #7
They'll still line up 85-95% caseymoz Jun 2012 #8
"Bishop" in the church is theologically meaningless. boppers Jun 2012 #12
No, a "bishop" is any male over the age of 13 in good standing, IIRC. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #21
They have a thing for pointless titles. boppers Jun 2012 #29
Oh, my bad again, I thought it was 13. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #50
I'm aware of that. caseymoz Jun 2012 #45
Folks it was a beautifull moment, lets savor it. hrmjustin Jun 2012 #9
That was so beautiful, I don't have the words. Aristus Jun 2012 #18
They blocked your ability to get married, why not celebrate it after the fact. msongs Jun 2012 #13
The US government blocked their ability to get married, too. boppers Jun 2012 #16
Those 300 Mormon supporters are in deep s--t with their church now and kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #20
Really? Excommunication? FreeState Jun 2012 #22
I can't imagine they'd let this open defiance of church doctrine to stand. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #23
Oh, in LDS, the word "doctrine" has a very specific meaning. boppers Jun 2012 #30
I saw an autobiographicsl play called "Confessions of a Mormon Boy" where he got X'd K8-EEE Jun 2012 #26
Sounds like there's more to the story. boppers Jun 2012 #32
Not the whole thing but excepts here: K8-EEE Jun 2012 #34
So, left his wife, became an addict, and then a rent boy. boppers Jun 2012 #36
Actually it was because he was gay... heres the letter from his stake FreeState Jun 2012 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author boppers Jun 2012 #41
Al Capone was convicted on tax evasion. boppers Jun 2012 #42
So the Mormom religion is like Iliyah Jun 2012 #27
not all the regular folks are ok Kali Jun 2012 #35
There are Mormons who are Democrats, for Obama OKNancy Jun 2012 #46
But, are they still bankrolling anti-gay politicians/legislation? NorthCarolina Jun 2012 #48
Word is they are staying out of the ballot measures this time n/t FreeState Jun 2012 #53
Build Bridges schnavelli Jun 2012 #54
I agree that this is a step forward. Skinner Jun 2012 #58
PLEASE don't fall for this shit. bitchkitty Jun 2012 #55
"i'll walk and talk with you"... cut the crap & stop funding laws that deny civil rights NuttyFluffers Jun 2012 #56
beaufiful --- knr Douglas Carpenter Jun 2012 #57
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