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147. Hey, folks, this isn't something new. There used to be many state universities that

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:36 AM

Feb 2016

charged no tuition for citizens of that state. They did charge out-of-state students.
If things were managed then, they can also be managed today.

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Clyburn: Sanders�s plan would kill black colleges [View all] w4rma Feb 2016 OP

Will white colleges be affected? Yuugal Feb 2016 #1

Stanford may be feeling it rpannier Feb 2016 #5

Do you think that is bad or good? JDPriestly Feb 2016 #29

Student loan companies package and sell their debt MaeScott Feb 2016 #75

The student loan business was taken over by the federal government former9thward Feb 2016 #159

If you get into to Stanford exboyfil Feb 2016 #30

my kid goes to Berkeley, I wish his tuition was free. olddad56 Feb 2016 #139

Of course kennetha Feb 2016 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author PoliticAverse Feb 2016 #23

Yes and in some unwelcome ways bluestateguy Feb 2016 #24

LOL mhatrw Feb 2016 #46

Are you kidding me...these are the thoughtful reason you came up with to justify denying higher berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #56

A wedge? Historical Black colleges and Universities are important... Adrahil Feb 2016 #88

Important to who? skepticscott Feb 2016 #107

Important to maintaining a class divide in the AA community jberryhill Feb 2016 #140

Well said berniepdx420! monicaangela Feb 2016 #155

Your response makes no sense. When everyone has the opportunity to get a college education, it is a litlbilly Feb 2016 #124

Sure.... Adrahil Feb 2016 #87

Hey, folks, this isn't something new. There used to be many state universities that Cal33 Feb 2016 #147

Another thing, in Continental Europe there no longer are any private universities. They Cal33 Feb 2016 #149

This news item is filling me with a great sadness. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #2

I don't buy that for a moment. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #3

Same here. Countries that did away with tuition generally have had to open, not close, colleges. forest444 Feb 2016 #20

Black colleges are now supported with donations, grant money jwirr Feb 2016 #123

Read his comments again jmowreader Feb 2016 #34

OK. So we better keep Savannah State at $20K/year so Morehouse can keep raking in the $? mhatrw Feb 2016 #42

So screw Morehouse, huh shenmue Feb 2016 #44

Is this about getting more black students college educations without crippling debt, mhatrw Feb 2016 #55

Thank you for the sanity yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #127

That is the question, now innit. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #143

Read Hillary's plan. She has a better idea jmowreader Feb 2016 #61

The only reason she has any plan at all for tuition relief is because Sanders suggested it. mhatrw Feb 2016 #62

How does Sanders propose... jmowreader Feb 2016 #63

OK. So she has no intention of giving private HBCU's $25 billion. mhatrw Feb 2016 #65

Okay, let me get this straight... jmowreader Feb 2016 #66

Single payer healthcare will SAVE us enough on healthcare costs every year to give every student mhatrw Feb 2016 #70

Using bogus assumptions about what it takes to achieve healthcare for all is not a winning argument Human101948 Feb 2016 #85

please answer how she will pay for it Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #80

Please elaborate SCantiGOP Feb 2016 #141

OMG... it's happening again. So very SAD. AzDar Feb 2016 #4

It would bravenak Feb 2016 #6

Alabama? JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #67

These unrealistic plans irritate me more every day bravenak Feb 2016 #69

I know one that has long subsidized or paid full tuition for karynnj Feb 2016 #93

This is about historically black colleges and universities bravenak Feb 2016 #95

I was responding to a specific point that YOU made karynnj Feb 2016 #99

Thank you for clearing that up for me bravenak Feb 2016 #101

Supporting Hillary, but I'm calling poppycock on this claim. Stand and Fight Feb 2016 #7

That would only be true if families that would traditionally choose these collages decide they'd azurnoir Feb 2016 #8

Fisk or Dilard, or even Harvard or other private schools will close or be hurt because Tennessee jtuck004 Feb 2016 #9

Bernard Sanders is not president now, nor will he ever be jmowreader Feb 2016 #35

You keep your own council, I'll keep mine. And I will vote for President Sanders. n/t jtuck004 Feb 2016 #41

Nasty & you Fail berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #64

Madame secretary timmymoff Feb 2016 #138

You won't be missed jmowreader Feb 2016 #142

Of course I won't timmymoff Feb 2016 #145

No it wouldn't AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #10

More smear? ReallyIAmAnOptimist Feb 2016 #11

Looks like discussing issues to me nt fun n serious Feb 2016 #39

Nope, it's Corruption Inc. ReallyIAmAnOptimist Feb 2016 #108

What's the difference in cost between public and HBCU now? Beowulf Feb 2016 #12

There are both public and private HBCUs jmowreader Feb 2016 #36

That's what I thought Beowulf Feb 2016 #40

Bernie's plan is not meant to kill private colleges and it won't. But what it might do is totodeinhere Feb 2016 #13

So they have to lose money, so his plan can be made to work shenmue Feb 2016 #49

An education for all vs. expensive private college for a few? Android3.14 Feb 2016 #77

How many black families can even afford private HBCU's tuition? Blue State Bandit Feb 2016 #78

Pissing off college alumni associations? sarge43 Feb 2016 #82

Well if everyone can afford to earn their degree PersonNumber503602 Feb 2016 #152

Any group will want to hold on to and, when possible, increase its influence. sarge43 Feb 2016 #157

Is he saying that fewer minorities lapfog_1 Feb 2016 #14

BOO! SoapBox Feb 2016 #15

There is no free lunch, and there are no free schools. shenmue Feb 2016 #51

BS. Renters w/ children pay no property tax. Blue State Bandit Feb 2016 #79

they indirectly pay property tax via their rent. nt karynnj Feb 2016 #96

Like we inadvertently pay for Clinton's 6 figure speaking fees? Blue State Bandit Feb 2016 #112

Bernie isn't in this race for establishment -- he's in the race for the people. pacalo Feb 2016 #16

What does that have to do with the topic? shenmue Feb 2016 #52

How can a person argue against Bernie when they're not familiar with his platform? pacalo Feb 2016 #58

And then some kennetha Feb 2016 #17

Yeah, better of have students have crippling debt their entire lives Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #48

This reminds me, Nyan Feb 2016 #19

This is clueless kennetha Feb 2016 #21

The private, not very highly ranked HBCU's could be driven out bluestateguy Feb 2016 #22

"If one candidate is appealing to your fears and the other candidate is appealing to your hopes... PoliticAverse Feb 2016 #25

Remember that Clintons gets $$$$$ from the private college industry. grasswire Feb 2016 #26

Maybe there is a way to make traditionally Black colleges free too? Why not? JDPriestly Feb 2016 #27

What about the fact that immigrants from poor families would be able to afford JDPriestly Feb 2016 #28

I disagree with him on this madokie Feb 2016 #31

This is bullshit fearmongering. geomon666 Feb 2016 #32

Yep. eggplant Feb 2016 #38

The gang of "No we can't " is at it again desmiller Feb 2016 #33

Yeah, that's what happened when California had tuition free public education. All the private mhatrw Feb 2016 #37

USD, Pepperdine, USC and Stanford all died and went the way of the dodo bird Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #45

California is a huge state. Most states don't have as much money. shenmue Feb 2016 #53

WTH does attending a private university have to do with its state's residents? mhatrw Feb 2016 #59

This has to be the lamest attack on tutition free university I have ever heard Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #43

It seems what the Congressman is saying is that everyone should keep paying high mikehiggins Feb 2016 #47

I've heard some crappy things from politicians but this is up there... wow..think about what he berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #50

73% of HBCU students attend public universities. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #54

This post deserves its own OP, dimple Feb 2016 #57

SANDERS IS RACIST BECAUSE HE WANTS TUITION FREE COLLEGE FOR EVERYONE!!! mhatrw Feb 2016 #60

+10000 trillion Feb 2016 #71

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #68

It cost much more to attend Harvard instead of a State University Geronimoe Feb 2016 #72

What a crock all this scaremongering. Our public university system used to be free newthinking Feb 2016 #73

A close friend of mine created free public kindergarten in New Hampshire. Fuddnik Feb 2016 #74

Why not dismiss all federal student loan debt? I'd like that. YOHABLO Feb 2016 #76

I'm not sure Clyburn is right about this, but I appreciate his concern for colleges that Hoyt Feb 2016 #81

Then, black colleges should lower tuition... Helen Borg Feb 2016 #83

Following WWII the private college system collapsed sarge43 Feb 2016 #84

This seems to ignore the fact cannabis_flower Feb 2016 #86

holy cow ellennelle Feb 2016 #89

Well, you would think. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #90

So an Associate's degree greymattermom Feb 2016 #91

This is like arguing which madville Feb 2016 #92

I agree wholeheartedly Trust Buster Feb 2016 #94

free college -> more students FreedomRain Feb 2016 #97

So what about the black people who can't afford to attend private black colleges? Vinca Feb 2016 #98

A statement with no facts to support it. blackspade Feb 2016 #100

I thought we were for equality? Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #102

Part of this strikes me as a way for a black leader to say to his Jarqui Feb 2016 #103

Post pulled. I shouldn't bother. I agree with your post. trillion Feb 2016 #113

Wo, who knew democracy was such an undesireable concept. Gregorian Feb 2016 #104

What a total crock... gregcrawford Feb 2016 #105

I don't think so My Good Babushka Feb 2016 #106

OK... TipTok Feb 2016 #109

�Tougaloo College in Mississippi will be closed if you can go to Jackson State for free,� ladjf Feb 2016 #110

Clyburn's comments make more sense when you look at Clinton's superior plan. Hoyt Feb 2016 #111

That's a shit neoliberal plan to do away with public education. (nt) w4rma Feb 2016 #115

How does it do away with public education? Hoyt Feb 2016 #116

Read it. It's just another neoliberal plan to privatize our schools. w4rma Feb 2016 #117

She's talking about preserving HBCUs-- public and private. There is also a plan for debt-free public Hoyt Feb 2016 #118

So, subsidizing private schools. Like what Bill Gates is pushing. Gotcha. (nt) w4rma Feb 2016 #119

What is your objection to HBCU schools like Morehouse where MLK and Hoyt Feb 2016 #121

I oppose privatization and graft. And Clinton's bill looks like both. w4rma Feb 2016 #122

A typical Sanders' supporter response to something that helps minorities. I'm starting to see which Hoyt Feb 2016 #125

Vouchers, privatization and graft HURT minorities. But keep on with your wedge politics. w4rma Feb 2016 #126

For some reason makes me think of right wingers saying, "welfare, affirmative action, etc., enslaves Hoyt Feb 2016 #129

Except, I support all of those things. Your stance / Clinton's stance is the right-wing stance. w4rma Feb 2016 #131

This is a terrible divisive message in a general election... modestybl Feb 2016 #114

You are wrong. There is a plan for all public colleges, and a special plan that helps HBCUs -- Hoyt Feb 2016 #128

"Debt-free" education is a dodge... modestybl Feb 2016 #133

You really don't think Clyburn's bullshit isn't divisive? HRC is toast if she gets to the general. w4rma Feb 2016 #134

This is too insane! ananda Feb 2016 #120

Why do black leaders oppose all things proposed to help their youth? onecaliberal Feb 2016 #130

Because, ultimately, the colour of money is more powerful than the colour of skin. Nihil Feb 2016 #146

So what Clyburn is saying is to not give tuition free college education RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #132

It would be incredibly good for ALL STUDENTS in the lower 50% economically. kristopher Feb 2016 #135

If that's the case,we wouldn't want to think of making Tougaloo a public college, would we? valerief Feb 2016 #136

No We Can't! Dems to Win Feb 2016 #137

The smartest kids will get the public college and university slots. Zen Democrat Feb 2016 #144

Why can't free college classes be 'credit' prerequisite classes online? Sunlei Feb 2016 #148

That argument is a little like saying public transportation will kill the auto industry. n/t Gore1FL Feb 2016 #150

I think James Clyburn is clutching to his pearls. He loves Hillary and will lay his integrity at thereismore Feb 2016 #151

Could this have something to do with PORK? monicaangela Feb 2016 #153

So, we give up making public colleges much more affordable to protect private, black colleges? BillZBubb Feb 2016 #154

Why do all these plans need to be so complicated? MichMan Feb 2016 #156

This shit is so stupid. Some idiot here was making a similar "point" WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #158

What? This is ridiculous. Is Jackson state suddenly going to accommodate 250,000 students? Doctor_J Feb 2016 #160