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88. Define help and support.

Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:50 PM

Feb 2016

The CIA engineered a coup in 1953 to remove the democratically elected leader of Iran and replace him with the Shah. The reason was that Mossadegh, the elected leader, wanted to nationalize the oil companies and keep the profits for infrastructure improvements. Was this help, or direct interference?

The US, again via the CIA, supported General Augusto Pinochet when he deposed and killed Salvador Allende, the elected President of Chile. Then Sec. of State Kissinger said the people would not be allowed to make the wrong choices. Was this help, or direct interference?

I could go on about Haiti, Nicaragua, Honduras, Vietnam, the Philippines, Greece, and a long list of other countries but the point is that the US does not help, it interferes, and it interferes for reasons of power.

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Well said! tabasco Feb 2016 #60

Yes. 840high Feb 2016 #70

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Thanks George W. Bush for invading Iraq and destroying the state so ISIS could arise. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #3

Neither Bush or Obama leftynyc Feb 2016 #7

+1 iandhr Feb 2016 #9

I will fight that bullshit leftynyc Feb 2016 #10

To use a British expression iandhr Feb 2016 #12

What is truth? guillaumeb Feb 2016 #17

Are you seriously claiming leftynyc Feb 2016 #22

I would suggest a carefull rereading of what I wrote. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #25

They haven't forgotten Politicalboi Feb 2016 #31

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I see no other reason to ignore the facts Politicalboi Feb 2016 #38

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+1... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #42

ISIS is a group of brutal animals. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #47

The day we cut ties leftynyc Feb 2016 #64

I asked about Saudi Arabia because I have seen nothing recently about the Saudis. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #69

It would be nice leftynyc Feb 2016 #71

tha says it all doesn't it? MariaThinks Feb 2016 #80

/ This. deathrind Feb 2016 #76

No - I haven't forgotten leftynyc Feb 2016 #43

saddam hussein killed 50000+ Kurds without involvement from the west MariaThinks Feb 2016 #79

Hussein killed the Kurds because the West took a hands off approach. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #84

you don't want the west involved, but then you say that hussein killed the kurds MariaThinks Feb 2016 #85

What I am saying is that the US has no right to decide for the world. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #86

there is a huge difference between helping or supporting countries and assassinating leaders MariaThinks Feb 2016 #87

Define help and support. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #88

I agree with you in principle, but this Ilsa Feb 2016 #35

Agree completely leftynyc Feb 2016 #41

You said it! Ilsa Feb 2016 #48

Absolutely! get the red out Feb 2016 #53

You would think leftynyc Feb 2016 #67

R you kidding me? Botany Feb 2016 #59

Bully for blair leftynyc Feb 2016 #66

at times like these, mutual blame seems to be the best course possible Stargleamer Feb 2016 #72

That's an excellent point leftynyc Feb 2016 #77

I hope that those ISIS bastards are killed by the truckload but again .... Botany Feb 2016 #81

agreed MariaThinks Feb 2016 #78

Both administrations pander to Sunni fundamentalism. Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #82

Did ISIS arise rocktivity Feb 2016 #13

A good question. And the US, after destroying a country, will never admit that it bears guillaumeb Feb 2016 #18

Blame America First garbage bluestateguy Feb 2016 #61

Not blame America first anything. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #68

Dad? Joanie Baloney Feb 2016 #4

ten points! 6chars Feb 2016 #6

Losing your head over rock'n'roll. mac56 Feb 2016 #20

And we are having a conversation about Turbineguy Feb 2016 #5

exactly. thre is something fundamentally wrong with a culture that supports MariaThinks Feb 2016 #8

As a woman leftynyc Feb 2016 #11

As a Gay man, I cannot even comprehend having to exist - it certainly would not be living - under... Raster Feb 2016 #15

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Yep, they would. We must always be vigilant Ilsa Feb 2016 #40

Vigilant... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #44

Yes, some of them even feel free to propose Ilsa Feb 2016 #52

For me it's being Jewish iandhr Feb 2016 #16

I'm a Jewish woman leftynyc Feb 2016 #23

Seems like once again we New Yorkers just have more sense. iandhr Feb 2016 #24

We just know bullshit when we hear it leftynyc Feb 2016 #32

For me, it's being an atheist who loves beer. Throd Feb 2016 #19

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Hell yes, as long as they're the Mexican variety (chicharrones). Throd Feb 2016 #29

Oh yes... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #37

Tequila for me leftynyc Feb 2016 #30

Orange and cinnamon? awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #39

You'll never drink it another way leftynyc Feb 2016 #45

I don't do tequila often... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #49

Slice and orange leftynyc Feb 2016 #51

Thanks awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #55

You too leftynyc Feb 2016 #65

Deuteronomy 22:21 brooklynite Feb 2016 #21

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There is a long and sordid elljay Feb 2016 #75

Not just "their" right, but all our rights Politicalboi Feb 2016 #34

These animals won't stop sharp_stick Feb 2016 #14

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Rick Astley, maybe. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2016 #58

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I'm betting it was the Beebs. Calista241 Feb 2016 #89

Rec for exposure... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #46

ISIS seems to be a lot like our good friends Saudi Arabia CincyDem Feb 2016 #54

That is because their support comes from two places. roamer65 Feb 2016 #56

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Just savages, plain and simple bluestateguy Feb 2016 #62

All I can say is... mdbl Feb 2016 #63

Couldn't happen without religion. valerief Feb 2016 #73