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82. Because, like Zman they intimidate and sometimes shoot unarmed people. But, to you

Reply to GGJohn (Reply #73)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:18 PM

Feb 2016

Zman is just an example of defensive gun use.

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University Of Texas Dean To Leave State, Citing Concerns Over New Campus Carry Law [View all] SecularMotion Feb 2016 OP

One of many rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #1

I would leave too, I just can't imagine any wise and sane person seeing this as a good thing, RKP5637 Feb 2016 #32

Gun nuts. Backwards schoolbooks. Ted Cruz. Poisoning by deregulation. onehandle Feb 2016 #2

More fall out, this is so sad although perfectly understandable. UT Austin is such a fantastic Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #3

I have two kids graduating this Spring! Glad they will be out of harms way. Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #8

Yes and I hope it works. I have friends there, more than a few and it is worrisome. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #9

I graduated from UT in the 80's and it was an awesome experience! My kids have loved it as well. Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #17

Yep, awesome Austin. I think that is great your kids went there too...very cool. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #28

I could never sit in class with people around me packing guns. FFS, what a horrible environment. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #33

It's interesting that private conservative universities in Texas have opted out. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #36

How would you know? GGJohn Feb 2016 #39

Kids in school generally know what's going on. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #40

Again, how would you know if it's concealed? GGJohn Feb 2016 #41

Please see #42. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #43

Because those people never leave them concealed! scscholar Feb 2016 #79

And you know this..................how? GGJohn Feb 2016 #80

Another question I have, is who are they protecting themselves from? RKP5637 Feb 2016 #42

How many school shootings have there been? GGJohn Feb 2016 #45

To be truthful, I have not tracked it that closely, but I wonder if this becomes more prevalent, RKP5637 Feb 2016 #46

And Wee Jimmy Kranky may become Scotland's first minister. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #71

... GGJohn Feb 2016 #73

Because, like Zman they intimidate and sometimes shoot unarmed people. But, to you Hoyt Feb 2016 #82

Oh, look, it's Hoyt telling lies again about me. eom. GGJohn Feb 2016 #83

Both of you - take it to the gungeon The Redheaded Guy Feb 2016 #87

Hoyt's been banned from the Gungeon for a bigoted, racist rant GGJohn Feb 2016 #88

Not really. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #90

Georgia has had concealed carry on university campuses since 2010. Calista241 Feb 2016 #47

It could be something that goes by the wayside once the heat of discussion is over wherein RKP5637 Feb 2016 #50

They're protecting themselves... a la izquierda Feb 2016 #92

Yep, I think they have a touch of paranoia! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #94

There's no reason at all to carry a gun to school rockfordfile Feb 2016 #74

I disagree. eom. GGJohn Feb 2016 #77

You interact with and are surrounded by people every day who conceal carry.... TipTok Feb 2016 #52

That could be considered a "hostile environment" 2naSalit Feb 2016 #63

I recall well in the dorms I would have been uncomfortable, some of the guys were clearly RKP5637 Feb 2016 #68

One of my profs 2naSalit Feb 2016 #85

Can't blame him. Vinca Feb 2016 #4

Yes I agree rockfordfile Feb 2016 #75

As the ceremonial "Going Away to College Firearm" becomes a proud Texas tradition. NBachers Feb 2016 #5

I'm so glad my nephew leftynyc Feb 2016 #6

Do you suppose the NRA allows people to bring guns into their headquarters? Lodestar Feb 2016 #7

The NRA does indeed permit gun owners to carry guns in their headquarters branford Feb 2016 #72

Staff, but not visitors. NRA staff are mostly right wing racists, like the board and members. Hoyt Feb 2016 #84

Sigh... branford Feb 2016 #86

Clearly, an attempt to intimidate free speech and debate. Helen Borg Feb 2016 #10

If that were true, GGJohn Feb 2016 #16

My kids have had a couple of alerts due to people with guns on campus already, it will be Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #19

But were those by CHL holders? GGJohn Feb 2016 #24

Any moment now... TipTok Feb 2016 #53

Voting with his feet. Nitram Feb 2016 #11

+1 2naSalit Feb 2016 #62

Success for the GOP. Turbineguy Feb 2016 #12

How many campus tragedies will it take before this law is repealed? nt Nitram Feb 2016 #13

How many campus tragedies have happened at other colleges that allow for GGJohn Feb 2016 #15

I didn't know therew were colleges that allowed concealed carrry. Nitram Feb 2016 #18

There are eight states, some dating back decades. Nt hack89 Feb 2016 #21

Here is a breakdown. GGJohn Feb 2016 #22

Thanks, GGJohn. I had no clue. Nitram Feb 2016 #26

To be fair, probably very few students carry, GGJohn Feb 2016 #31

Good point. Nitram Feb 2016 #35

It would closely correlate to the number of assholes attending. snort Feb 2016 #44

In Texas that would be above the national mean. nt Nitram Feb 2016 #69

That map seems to be outdated. LisaL Feb 2016 #98

Sorry LisaL, GGJohn Feb 2016 #100

Here's a pretty good one just a few months ago Major Nikon Feb 2016 #29

One incident on one campus out of how many that allow for it? GGJohn Feb 2016 #34

It's weird right? TipTok Feb 2016 #54

Other than the porn industry, GGJohn Feb 2016 #55

How many incidents before it is relevant to discuss the enlightenment Feb 2016 #57

I ask again, GGJohn Feb 2016 #59

Having been to college, I know the lack of judgement of men that age, particularly when... Nitram Feb 2016 #91

please Skittles Feb 2016 #89

Unfortunately UT will likely lose many more faculty and admins over this. yellowcanine Feb 2016 #14

I don't think "uncertainty" about the safety of guns in the hands of immature young men... Nitram Feb 2016 #20

Is 21 really immature? Nt hack89 Feb 2016 #23

In most cases, yes. Nitram Feb 2016 #27

By the time I was 20, GGJohn Feb 2016 #58

Auto insurance underwriters generally charge higher rates up until age 25. yellowcanine Feb 2016 #38

Exactly, there are many options other than UT, and many IMO will take those options. RKP5637 Feb 2016 #37

I doubt it Calista241 Feb 2016 #48

But that is part of the plan... Helen Borg Feb 2016 #49

Are you and your fellow Texas Haters on this thread under the impression.... Paladin Feb 2016 #66

Thank you Paladin, GGJohn Feb 2016 #76

I don't blame him. 47of74 Feb 2016 #25

A very wise person to get the hell out of Texas. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #30

Buh bye... TipTok Feb 2016 #51

But for Republicans it not about getting an education, they are against rladdi Feb 2016 #56

Good to see your post. You are exactly right. n/t Judi Lynn Feb 2016 #101

Sad, but necessary. hamsterjill Feb 2016 #60

Sorry hamsterjill sarisataka Feb 2016 #64

I honestly don't blame them. hamsterjill Feb 2016 #65

Let's hope this is becomes a trend. SpankMe Feb 2016 #61

A well thought out post. Thank you. nt raccoon Feb 2016 #93

Texas-America's own Petri dish of Fascist ideas. jalan48 Feb 2016 #67

Some delicate flowers are more delicate than other delicate flowers... beevul Feb 2016 #70

Smart guy. Of course being a college Dean they usually are. trillion Feb 2016 #78

He was already planning to leave, GGJohn Feb 2016 #81

He was approached over the years with job offers, which he declined. LisaL Feb 2016 #97

Probably because it offered better pay, benefits, etc. eom. GGJohn Feb 2016 #99

Why do you insist that it couldn't be the reasons he listed? LisaL Feb 2016 #102

He was already looking for a new postition, I suspect this was just an exucse and a political GGJohn Feb 2016 #103

Where does it say he was already looking for a new position? LisaL Feb 2016 #104

Perhaps they weren't in a location that was suitable for him? GGJohn Feb 2016 #105

TX law doesn't just allow. It demands state colleges allowed guns. LisaL Feb 2016 #106

So does Utah and Colorado public colleges, and yet, it hasn't been a problem with them, GGJohn Feb 2016 #107

Wow, he arranged that new job quickly. JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2016 #95

He actually had people approaching him with job offers over the years. LisaL Feb 2016 #96

Those who forget history.... pfitz59 Feb 2016 #108