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happyslug

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32. General rule on foreign marriages, they are treated as valid.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:16 AM
Feb 2016

Thus if you get married in a country that permits marrying 12 years olds, that is considered valid in most other countries. People have moved to countries that forbid multiple wives with multiple wives, and those wives are considered legally married. Such a man can not marry more wives while in that country but existing wives are viewed as valid marriages.

This goes back to the days of slavery, a slave owner had the right to take his slave to another country that did not permit slaves, and keep those slaves. The same with marriages as young as 12, if valid in the country the marriage took place, most countries will recognize that marriage even if it had occurred in their own country the marriage would be invalid.

Thus the promise to marry can lead to a valid marriage that can lead to a unification of family immigration. This is true even if the marriage is made in a foreign country where such a marriage is legal but the married couple wants to move to a country where such a marriage would be illegal.

Unless the UK has a specific law making such foreign marriages not valid in the UK, the resulting marriage in a third country would be valid in the UK.

Please note the Common Law age of consent to marry was age 12. Pennsylvania ruled in the late 1990s that was still the age to consent to a common law marriage in Pennsylvania (entering into a Common Law Marriage was outlawed in Pennsylvania effective 1-1-2005).

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Child abuse on a massive scale oberliner Feb 2016 #1
"AS YOUNG AS 11????" - DAMN! Herman4747 Feb 2016 #2
The behavior of Muhammad has nothing to do with Islam - Coventina Feb 2016 #5
LOL!! Yeah that definitely deserves a... Herman4747 Feb 2016 #6
The pretzels some twist leftynyc Feb 2016 #9
Mohammad marriage to Aisha was political not sexual happyslug Feb 2016 #11
so if times have changed, why has the interpretion of the religion not changed? patsimp Feb 2016 #15
As I pointed out 12 was the generally accepted age of consent to marriage till the 1800s happyslug Feb 2016 #30
Any chance we can apply modern laws to what is essentially child rape? patsimp Mar 2016 #41
Which set of modern laws? happyslug Mar 2016 #43
it's the religion of love snooper2 Apr 2016 #54
Technically correct... TipTok Apr 2016 #62
Don't worry, some DUers will post that American Christians are worse Democat Feb 2016 #3
American christians send millions of jobs to India, one of the most dangerous whereisjustice Feb 2016 #13
they went to china first. People really seem to hate India on this site. patsimp Feb 2016 #16
They went to Central America and Mexico first... but in terms of exploited and abused women whereisjustice Feb 2016 #17
not from what i've read. Pakistan, Yemen, Saudi Arabia come first patsimp Feb 2016 #19
It's a dubious distinction. India is high on the list. And as far as where we send jobs whereisjustice Feb 2016 #22
The country mentioned is actually Bangladesh, not India muriel_volestrangler Feb 2016 #21
I'm citing India as a place where we send jobs inspite of horrible human rights record whereisjustice Feb 2016 #23
kicked and recced Arazi Feb 2016 #4
Well, pass laws that no marriage can be recognized under a certain age. Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #7
Fuckin' religion valerief Feb 2016 #8
This pre dates Islam happyslug Feb 2016 #31
True, it's a feedback loop Bradical79 Apr 2016 #56
And positive practices. happyslug Apr 2016 #57
Fuckin' this particular religion, Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #60
how can they get a spouse visa on an invalid marriage? mopinko Feb 2016 #10
We must respect their "culture" or some shit. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #12
It doesn't say they get a visa, it says they get the *promise* of a visa muriel_volestrangler Feb 2016 #18
so disgusting. mopinko Feb 2016 #20
General rule on foreign marriages, they are treated as valid. happyslug Feb 2016 #32
Yes, the UK doesn't give visas for spouses until they're 18 muriel_volestrangler Feb 2016 #33
Notice the language the person APPLYING for a visa must be over 18, not his wife. happyslug Feb 2016 #34
It applies to both; findlaw didn't say that, but bradfordlawcentre does muriel_volestrangler Feb 2016 #37
this is disgusting patsimp Feb 2016 #14
"when they become 'too western'," keithbvadu2 Feb 2016 #24
why come to western countries then? patsimp Feb 2016 #25
To join with their ilk like Duck Dynasty? keithbvadu2 Feb 2016 #38
That's the one that always gets me Recursion Mar 2016 #44
and we are allowing this patsimp Mar 2016 #49
I was going to say something similar. smirkymonkey Apr 2016 #58
In my culture this is sick scubasteve76 Feb 2016 #26
Doesn't matter. A child is a child. Laws override culture. shenmue Feb 2016 #27
.^that 840high Feb 2016 #28
my mistake scubasteve76 Mar 2016 #39
At one point it was culturally acceptable to own slaves in this country. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2016 #48
We are supposed to say 'Stop raping that child'... TipTok Apr 2016 #63
It's sad. romanic Mar 2016 #47
It means something to the girl who has her life stolen Marrah_G Mar 2016 #46
+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2016 #59
Enjoy your time at DU Democat Apr 2016 #51
it is sick no matter what the "reason" Skittles Apr 2016 #61
My wife is Pakistani AngryAmish Feb 2016 #29
too many want to keep all the culture that made them want to leave in the first place MariaThinks Feb 2016 #35
I don't think they left because leftynyc Feb 2016 #36
"Anyone who agrees to marry off their 11 year old daughters ought to be thrown the fuck out." Nihil Mar 2016 #40
This is shocking to me patsimp Mar 2016 #42
sick, sick culture Skittles Mar 2016 #45
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #50
Some will call you an "islamophobe" Quantess Apr 2016 #52
Using the Times of India as a source again. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #53
I doubt the law of the UK would allow a visa in that situation treestar Apr 2016 #55
is a marriage done via Skype a legal marriage ? n/t Angel Martin Apr 2016 #64
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