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Xithras

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11. You know, as a former teacher, I'm going to have to take a dissenting view on this one.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 06:36 PM
Mar 2016

Bringing pornography (including amateur homemade pornography) onto school grounds is prohibited in just about every school district in the country. Kids are immediately suspended for posessing it, and is considered a fireable offense in most school districts for teachers to bring it onto school property. By leaving the phone in the drawer, without a lock on the drawer or a password on the phone, the teacher left prohibited contraband in a location where it was directly accessible to the students. At a minimum, it was an incredibly stupid move. In most districts, it's going to bring serious sanctions.

Look at this a bit differently. If this was a male teacher, and the kids opened the unlocked drawer to find a stack of Playboy magazines sitting in an insecure pendaflex marked "Private and Personal", would we go so easy on him? Probably not. Most people would come down on him like a ton of bricks for having prohibited pornographic materials in a location where kids can easily find it in a classroom. The fact that the teacher is a woman, or that the photos were digital instead of print, are irrelevant to the point at hand. She brought porn into a classroom and failed to secure it away from her students.

The students should absolutely be punished for digging through the teachers desk, but the school district isn't out of line for sanctioning the teacher as well.

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So the theft of her personal property becomes her fault ffr Mar 2016 #1
South Carolina justice. nt valerief Mar 2016 #4
Somewhat more than 50% of the population has boobs EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #79
Wonderful get the red out Mar 2016 #2
I'm betting the best lawyers are lining up to represent her in a lawsuit brush Mar 2016 #65
Total BS. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #3
There is no rule against teachers having a phone at school. Teachers are told to call parents as DhhD Mar 2016 #8
Exactly. So since they have phones, and phones are cool, one must allow personal content AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #18
In every school I've ever taught in, there are phones in the classroom adigal Mar 2016 #47
Oh no, a picture exists of her partially naked. Halt the presses. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #49
You may not think the kids seeing their teacher partially nude is a big deal adigal Mar 2016 #53
I saw my 6th grade language arts teacher in a bathing suit. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #55
Really? You are equating seeing a teacher in a bathing suit to a partially nude picture of adigal Mar 2016 #57
Nudity is not a negative thing. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #59
I'm fully incapable of understanding how you think students seeing their teacher adigal Mar 2016 #60
I think it's unimportant. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #61
The picture was not on the screen of her phone. StevieM Mar 2016 #81
I think the big deal here is the theft and invasion of privacy BY the students. gcomeau Mar 2016 #78
So...if it has to do in any way with something sexual, blame and punish the woman. FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #5
+100 narnian60 Mar 2016 #26
I smell a lawsuit. nt bemildred Mar 2016 #6
I certainly hope so n/t renate Mar 2016 #40
South Carolina's Union County school district is wrong. In_The_Wind Mar 2016 #7
If a teacher had brought in printed naked pictures of themselves that were taken from a folder? fbc Mar 2016 #9
I still don't understand why people need naked photos of themselves Skittles Mar 2016 #13
mebbe it wasn't meant for her husband....not to shame her more but it answers your question Demonaut Mar 2016 #36
Meh... jberryhill Mar 2016 #54
seriously? Blue_Adept Mar 2016 #63
LOL Skittles Mar 2016 #72
I still don't understand why people NEED different sexual positions Heddi Mar 2016 #64
oh yeah, that's the same thing Skittles Mar 2016 #71
Yes, I know it is, that's why I used the analogy Heddi Mar 2016 #74
Pictures can be shared with someone else Skittles Mar 2016 #75
So what. That's probably why the pictures were taken -- to share with someon Heddi Mar 2016 #76
I agree. SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #29
which applies to anyone sharing naked pocs Skittles Mar 2016 #73
Our digital lives follow us everywhere now Blue_Adept Mar 2016 #62
Sue that school district. nt TeamPooka Mar 2016 #10
You know, as a former teacher, I'm going to have to take a dissenting view on this one. Xithras Mar 2016 #11
The student hit on her "apps" icon. It wasn't readily visible on the phone. StevieM Mar 2016 #14
And to furhter muddy it AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #19
The medium isn't actually relevant. Xithras Mar 2016 #25
^THIS^ SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #31
Well, if she brought her phone into the classroom and he got into her email through her phone StevieM Mar 2016 #34
Only a fool would have nude or semi-nude pics on an app and not have a password on it adigal Mar 2016 #48
Your post makes sense FLPanhandle Mar 2016 #17
A semi-nude photo of oneself isn't exactly porn. LisaL Mar 2016 #20
I am a former teacher too..Worked in the worst schools in Chicago.. Stuart G Mar 2016 #24
True, but assuming no one would mess with an unlocked phone is dumb. nt SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #32
administrators are too often bad teachers who gave themselves a promotion by taking a few yurbud Mar 2016 #67
I agree with you 100%. I'm teaching for 25 years, and that was just stupid adigal Mar 2016 #46
With devices connected to the cloud, like OneDrive, or iCloud, the distinction of 'bringing it to AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #52
As an adult, I would never bring anything compromising to my classroom adigal Mar 2016 #56
"It's not like the kid was outside her bathroom, with the expectation of privacy, taking pictures." AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #58
Let me get this right.......... Old Vet Mar 2016 #12
why does her husband need a nude photo of her. Doesn't he know what she looks like nude? olddad56 Mar 2016 #15
"why does her husband need a nude photo of her. Doesn't he know what she looks like nude?" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2016 #38
You never never never let your pc or phone be used by unsupervised students. DamnYankeeInHouston Mar 2016 #16
She didn't let the student use her phone. He took it without permission. LisaL Mar 2016 #21
She left it where he could get it. Mine never leaves my pocket. DamnYankeeInHouston Mar 2016 #22
how do you read your texts if it never leaves your pocket? olddad56 Mar 2016 #66
Well then it's in my hand, not left where students or parents can steal it which happens a lot. DamnYankeeInHouston Mar 2016 #69
the student who did that is an asshole JI7 Mar 2016 #23
Totally. narnian60 Mar 2016 #27
Oh, absolutely. nt SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #33
Absolutely, but that doesn't mean the teacher wasn't irresponsible leaving her phone unattended adigal Mar 2016 #50
why are people so distracted by the fact that a student stole it? unblock Mar 2016 #28
But the phone was not an illegal item, like drugs. And the pictures were not on the screen StevieM Mar 2016 #35
i suppose that's a fair point for debate. unblock Mar 2016 #44
Upthread, another teacher said that in her school, certain legal Rx drugs aren't allowed either adigal Mar 2016 #51
If i were going to assess blame for how this turned out tularetom Mar 2016 #30
Sue the little bastard thief. n/m ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2016 #37
Meanwhile, snort Mar 2016 #39
Dumb move on teachers part but still her union mackerel Mar 2016 #41
In South Carolina I am guessing that the teachers' unions aren't too strong. StevieM Mar 2016 #42
A 13 y.o. can do that in 3 minutes. First rule of teaching mackerel Mar 2016 #43
You are so right, SC is a "right to work" state, and unions are as rare as a black swan. raccoon Mar 2016 #45
Do not keep naked pictures of yourself on your phone. Oneironaut Mar 2016 #68
Do not keep naked pictures of yourself on your phone. graegoyle Mar 2016 #70
This is ridiculous Kalidurga Mar 2016 #77
What should happen in this case: christx30 Mar 2016 #80
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