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salinsky

(1,065 posts)
173. Just a guess ...
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 05:37 PM
Mar 2016

... but I'm thinking this has more to do with the FBI's and Justice Dept's desires to wrap this thing up and avoid even the appearance of an attempt to influence an election, and the immunity deal is an effort to expedite the matter.

K & R AzDar Mar 2016 #1
Justice for all Fairgo Mar 2016 #2
ruh-roh. This is very bad for her. It means they have stuff and they're going forward. roguevalley Mar 2016 #84
LOL - what horseshit leftynyc Mar 2016 #143
tell that to the FBI and the others. Your horse laughing will be for nothing when it happens. roguevalley Mar 2016 #161
This is the guy who pled the fifth in September Arazi Mar 2016 #3
Uh-oh. Immunity means they're after bigger fish. nichomachus Mar 2016 #4
And, it doesn't provide justice for the person who actually did it! scscholar Mar 2016 #17
Maybe the IT person was doing what he was told? 7962 Mar 2016 #22
So he is to blame for how the system was used? blackspade Mar 2016 #29
Come again? Gore1FL Mar 2016 #32
Seriously? TM99 Mar 2016 #35
the big fish always fry, not the big ones. apparently, the notion some have put forward roguevalley Mar 2016 #85
yes that's what I've read lovuian Mar 2016 #166
Ah, you have it backwards. He did not generate the information on the server that is a problem. Yo_Mama Mar 2016 #45
I don't think that's the point. zentrum Mar 2016 #83
As an IT person angrychair Mar 2016 #104
Oh wow. malokvale77 Mar 2016 #132
Is that the new talking point? TBF Mar 2016 #138
oh dear ! Angel Martin Mar 2016 #5
I do not rule out the possibility that our choices come Nov as being Biden vs. Romney. eom Purveyor Mar 2016 #10
in a year like this, anything is possible Angel Martin Mar 2016 #27
And how would that happen? Biden? n/t revbones Mar 2016 #28
I don't know what the Democratic rules are Angel Martin Mar 2016 #41
So you're just assuming Bernie wouldn't be around? revbones Mar 2016 #42
i hope not Angel Martin Mar 2016 #46
Convicts have run their criminal enterprises from jail before... TipTok Mar 2016 #147
Situation is almost like the GOP with Trump. Party bosses doing Purveyor Mar 2016 #52
This doesn't look good for Hillary. 99th_Monkey Mar 2016 #6
It does. I would 840high Mar 2016 #13
He's fine now! She must be a tad nervous. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #39
He's fine as long as he doesn't fly on small planes... Raster Mar 2016 #53
lol - true 840high Mar 2016 #56
He's safe from prosecution. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #115
She asked that he be granted immunity. Justice Mar 2016 #168
Yes. And he requested fifth protection when Congress wanted to talk to him, too. morningfog Mar 2016 #30
It certainly circumvented Yupster Mar 2016 #122
Yes. You don't get immunity for nothing. winter is coming Mar 2016 #43
That is what DUers are not understanding. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #57
Well, the FBI confiscated his server about in mid-December. winter is coming Mar 2016 #65
+1 for "kitten juggler." eom MrChuck Mar 2016 #109
The horror... PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #125
That's possible. But he doesn't get to invoke the 5th for no good reason. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #128
Why not? KPN Mar 2016 #111
The 5th Amendment protects against self-incrimination. Qutzupalotl Mar 2016 #194
On the brighter side, it implies that investigation taking place is genuine. Yo_Mama Mar 2016 #50
This is getting serious................. Old Vet Mar 2016 #103
I think his lawyer would offer a proffer Yupster Mar 2016 #121
Right. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #129
Thanks for helping connect the dots a bit here. 99th_Monkey Mar 2016 #130
The main reason..... cynzke Mar 2016 #146
Bryan Pagliano: forest444 Mar 2016 #7
Turn down the lights and lower the shades Katy, this party is just getting started... eom Purveyor Mar 2016 #8
Bernie, there may be an opening soon.... TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #9
Ruh-Roh TalkingDog Mar 2016 #11
OMG LOL tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #82
I am investing heavily in ruh-roh stock... demand is incredible yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #151
Oh, oh montanacowboy Mar 2016 #12
move along these aren't the droids you're looking for BigBearJohn Mar 2016 #14
Exactly. Where this will lead I dont know. But I DO know where it WONT lead! 7962 Mar 2016 #26
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #15
This can't be good for Hillary Clinton nt CdnExtraNational Mar 2016 #16
This does not sound good Jack Rabbit Mar 2016 #18
yeah, I'm honestly not thrilled about this development either renate Mar 2016 #64
What General Petraeus did was far worse and he got $100,000 fine and probation Hawaii Hiker Mar 2016 #19
Negotiations are obviously reserved for the elite political and money classes blackspade Mar 2016 #21
According to one of the articles I read a few weeks ago Big_Mike Mar 2016 #193
And he retired kcjohn1 Mar 2016 #23
Presidential candidates have admitted to violating the law and were elected anyway. Would an PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #37
It cannot be inadvertent. It can't be a misdemeanor. Yo_Mama Mar 2016 #55
There is no evidence it was sent Justice Mar 2016 #170
What was inadvertent about it? TipTok Mar 2016 #148
Ok, so even if that were true revbones Mar 2016 #31
If she pleads a mini misdemeanor she can't win the general. She must fight. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #48
It was over a year between Petraeus's resignation and his plea deal. Calista241 Mar 2016 #49
Well, given the current stage it will likely not be over by then revbones Mar 2016 #54
More likely to Bernie. agracie Mar 2016 #69
June 6th. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #136
Uh, oh blackspade Mar 2016 #20
I don't see much coming of it. It will only distract from the important issues Bernie is raising. jalan48 Mar 2016 #24
This sounds very serious Merryland Mar 2016 #25
Oh it could be serious but for who that is the question which is why they are investigating. cstanleytech Mar 2016 #90
"who worked on Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign" ConsiderThis_2016 Mar 2016 #33
The guy's name was Uretsky. pugetres Mar 2016 #105
Josh Uretsky Qutzupalotl Mar 2016 #145
This is a B F D! thereismore Mar 2016 #34
Isn't immunity HDSam Mar 2016 #36
Yes, "full cooperation" in exchange for immunity. PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #38
Immunity means you can't take the fifth. eggplant Mar 2016 #47
Time HDSam Mar 2016 #51
It gave me a laugh. Hope you don't get a hide. That would suck Arazi Mar 2016 #59
For Carla Danger's employment maybe. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #114
The immunity granted to that lawyer who asked improper questions to civil service hires merrily Mar 2016 #112
Monica Goodling... PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #116
Yes. Thanks. Her testimony was very guarded, either beause she did not want to look bad and/or merrily Mar 2016 #117
The Justice department doesn't hand out immunity without knowing Calista241 Mar 2016 #63
right. Merryland Mar 2016 #81
They'd be getting answers to questions like "who told you to". "who authorized you to", PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #113
I'm positive they already knew the answers to all of those questions. Calista241 Mar 2016 #123
It must be getting closer to midnight. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #40
tick-tock... 840high Mar 2016 #98
"Pearlman managed controversial Clinton’s email server administrator Bryan Pagliano"... ConsiderThis_2016 Mar 2016 #44
But Pagliano was paid separately and privately by Clinton or the Foundation to set up Yo_Mama Mar 2016 #60
I'm not in IT and don't understand this phrase Arazi Mar 2016 #67
Pagliano was paid by the State Department to do IT work for them. Yo_Mama Mar 2016 #75
So you're saying HRC (who hired him) has all the responsibility? Arazi Mar 2016 #77
Whoever paid and directed him to do the work has the responsibiity. Yo_Mama Mar 2016 #89
Thanks for the clarification. Clearly I'm also not a lawyer Arazi Mar 2016 #92
Well, here's the counterargument: Yo_Mama Mar 2016 #93
Thanks. I know it's vital to stay calm and not inflate the facts Arazi Mar 2016 #94
That is really the most important takeaway of Pagliano's immunity. A serious investigation Yo_Mama Mar 2016 #96
Isn't this what those who are ethically challenged do to subvert the public records law? haikugal Mar 2016 #110
I don't understand. Paid by the State Department and the Clinton Foundation? Paper Roses Mar 2016 #144
No, not in this case. But multiple State Dept staffers were on the payroll of both. Yo_Mama Mar 2016 #149
I gather it was like having a second job Calista241 Mar 2016 #150
Aside from the speculation and innuendo, there is one fact. yallerdawg Mar 2016 #58
Not for long. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #118
I saw a thread today that was floating the notion that Clinton wasn't in danger Jarqui Mar 2016 #61
I saw that thread, too, and noted that the "experts" were unnamed. winter is coming Mar 2016 #68
Yes, someone is going to be charged, but we don't know who. Yo_Mama Mar 2016 #86
Tomorrow I'm going to setup my own work e-mail server... SciDude Mar 2016 #62
Boom! Donald Trump: Hillary Clinton Should Be Going to Prison For What She's Done BigBearJohn Mar 2016 #70
What does he need immunity for humbled_opinion Mar 2016 #66
Bernie, not sold in stores - or anywhere else. agracie Mar 2016 #71
The details of what the FBI thinks they're getting? Babel_17 Mar 2016 #72
I am sure she will come out of this smelling like a rose Scalded Nun Mar 2016 #73
Bottom line this is turning into humbled_opinion Mar 2016 #74
..+1 840high Mar 2016 #100
SHe will be in Congressional Hearings before November Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #76
Is this about Benghazi? Clinton testified before Congress lovuian Mar 2016 #78
Emails about Benghazi? Please tell us more! Beaverhausen Mar 2016 #106
What I've read and it's on the web lovuian Mar 2016 #120
No, it's about her usage of a private email account for official state dept communications. Calista241 Mar 2016 #126
Yes it's about the presence of classified info in those communications lovuian Mar 2016 #131
No, it was discovered by Judicial Watch's FOIA request. jeff47 Mar 2016 #154
You might want to educate yourself about Judicial Watch Beaverhausen Mar 2016 #167
You might want to stop assuming everyone here is dumb. jeff47 Mar 2016 #169
Where to begin? Beaverhausen Mar 2016 #171
And now you convert to captain pedantic. jeff47 Mar 2016 #172
Hillary WANTS Pagliano to talk. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #79
Thats interesting.. disillusioned73 Mar 2016 #163
Is there a lawyer here Bob_Roony Mar 2016 #80
Lawrence O'Donell mentioning it now. winter is coming Mar 2016 #87
Nothing online at MSNBC OR Huff Post agracie Mar 2016 #95
Agree with Charlie Pierce Justice Mar 2016 #107
Beware of a witch hunt by the ultra rightwing Obama administration RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #88
Very cool video. Surprising. yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #153
Should we read anything in to the timing of this announcement? The day AFTER Super FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #91
Of course we should. agracie Mar 2016 #97
I think the timing relates to the final release of emails Calista241 Mar 2016 #99
I think that's an entirely separate process being run by State. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #108
Hey, if it works for Scott Walker, it should work for all conservadems too. AllyCat Mar 2016 #101
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #102
Hillary's supporters DesMoinesDem Mar 2016 #119
K&R pugetres Mar 2016 #124
the emails released by state are the emails that Clinton's team determined were work-related and magical thyme Mar 2016 #139
Sanders' supporters last hope, and it's another trumped up investigation. Hoyt Mar 2016 #127
The FBI is not a right wing organization nor is the DOJ. ... spin Mar 2016 #133
Of course it is. That's why 100+ FBI agents are wasting their time working on it. Vinca Mar 2016 #137
So Obama is now part of the vast right-wing conspiracy? jeff47 Mar 2016 #155
How many of them have there been now? leftyladyfrommo Mar 2016 #158
Exactly, and detractors will make a big deal out of it until it's over. Then, they will move to the Hoyt Mar 2016 #160
Benghazi! leftyladyfrommo Mar 2016 #162
Benghazi. Now that is funny, but so true. Hoyt Mar 2016 #165
Amazing. A fellow Democrat is under political assault GreydeeThos Mar 2016 #134
this thread is about an FBI investigation, not the GOP investigation or magical thyme Mar 2016 #141
Ever hear of Kevin McCarthy? GreydeeThos Mar 2016 #174
again, this is about the FBI INVESTIGATION, not the right-wing crap. magical thyme Mar 2016 #180
This whole email controversy started as 'right wing crap' GreydeeThos Mar 2016 #184
At a time when we can't even agree TBF Mar 2016 #142
The Democraticunderground would react correctly to a Ted Cruz investigation GreydeeThos Mar 2016 #175
Do not confuse the word progressive with democrat - TBF Mar 2016 #182
Picking nits between progressive and Democrat GreydeeThos Mar 2016 #186
It's not about me winning TBF Mar 2016 #192
I celebrate when lawbreakers could potentially face justice... TipTok Mar 2016 #152
What laws has Hillary been convicted of breaking? GreydeeThos Mar 2016 #176
I am speaking of the information in the public domain... TipTok Mar 2016 #179
It is called "Convicting in the press" GreydeeThos Mar 2016 #185
What's hasty? TipTok Mar 2016 #187
How should I know what is correct or incorrect GreydeeThos Mar 2016 #189
There's a spectrum ranging from... TipTok Mar 2016 #190
Obama and Lynch are right-wing now? jeff47 Mar 2016 #156
Appeal to authority much? GreydeeThos Mar 2016 #177
Well, at least this latest news about her private server isn't labelled "top secret". Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #135
This is VERY interesting. nt TBF Mar 2016 #140
Prudent she drop out of the race now. harun Mar 2016 #157
... and this is what we would have to look forward to, nonstop, if she won POTUS. Myrina Mar 2016 #159
How about we move this thread to GD:P where the Bernie Gloaters will be more at home? (nt) Paladin Mar 2016 #164
Just a guess ... salinsky Mar 2016 #173
Good. The IT guy always knows where the bodies are buried. n/t Jester Messiah Mar 2016 #178
Several months ago Bernie Sanders said enough of the damn emails! countryjake Mar 2016 #181
That was based upon what everyone knew at the time - TBF Mar 2016 #183
He was mostly referring to the chit-chat within the emails. Babel_17 Mar 2016 #188
when this issue is concluded most of you won't be satisfied Herself Mar 2016 #191
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