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In reply to the discussion: BREAKING: Bernie Sanders wins the Democratic presidential primary in Michigan. [View all]bemildred
(90,061 posts)119. Were Black Voters in Michigan Afraid to Oppose Clinton in Polls?
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As pollsters and data analysts struggle to explain how Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) overcame a 30-point-plus deficit to defeat Hillary Clinton in the Michigan primary on Tuesday, one possible factor that has been neglected is the reverse Bradley effect the possibility that black voters were reluctant to tell pollsters they opposed Clinton.
The Bradley effect refers to the theory that white voters might lie to pollsters about supporting a black candidate, then vote against that candidate in the privacy of the voting booth. It is thought to explain Tom Bradleys surprise defeat in the 1982 race for California governor against George Deukmejian though the Deukmejian camp points to his big lead in the absentee vote as the real reason, since Bradley, L.A.s first black mayor, won on Election Day.
In Michigan, polls consistently showed Clinton with a big double-digit lead against Sanders, right up until the last week before the primary. There were no obvious controversies about remarks the candidates made in the last two debates, which were held by CNN on Sunday evening and by Fox News on Monday afternoon (though Fox grilled Clinton on her emails and on the question of abortion, which previous moderators from other networks had not).
There were no obvious clues in exit polls. One theory for the shift, posed by Carl Bialik of fivethirtyeight.com, is that Clinton voters assumed she would win and crossed over to vote against Trump. But that wave should have showed up more dramatically in the GOP vote.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/09/reverse-bradley-effect-may-explain-sanders-win/
As pollsters and data analysts struggle to explain how Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) overcame a 30-point-plus deficit to defeat Hillary Clinton in the Michigan primary on Tuesday, one possible factor that has been neglected is the reverse Bradley effect the possibility that black voters were reluctant to tell pollsters they opposed Clinton.
The Bradley effect refers to the theory that white voters might lie to pollsters about supporting a black candidate, then vote against that candidate in the privacy of the voting booth. It is thought to explain Tom Bradleys surprise defeat in the 1982 race for California governor against George Deukmejian though the Deukmejian camp points to his big lead in the absentee vote as the real reason, since Bradley, L.A.s first black mayor, won on Election Day.
In Michigan, polls consistently showed Clinton with a big double-digit lead against Sanders, right up until the last week before the primary. There were no obvious controversies about remarks the candidates made in the last two debates, which were held by CNN on Sunday evening and by Fox News on Monday afternoon (though Fox grilled Clinton on her emails and on the question of abortion, which previous moderators from other networks had not).
There were no obvious clues in exit polls. One theory for the shift, posed by Carl Bialik of fivethirtyeight.com, is that Clinton voters assumed she would win and crossed over to vote against Trump. But that wave should have showed up more dramatically in the GOP vote.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/09/reverse-bradley-effect-may-explain-sanders-win/
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BREAKING: Bernie Sanders wins the Democratic presidential primary in Michigan. [View all]
Bubzer
Mar 2016
OP
Exactly. All of the Northern industrialized states had their legs cut from under themtrade deals..
Enthusiast
Mar 2016
#137
So Clinton is the candidate who, though ill-advised lies, can snatch defeat from the
Betty Karlson
Mar 2016
#134
But, but. . .ah, it's only Michigan. Who cares. HRC won Mississippi and look at how she did
Feeling the Bern
Mar 2016
#9
I'm sorry. I never said that to HRC people before Sanders decided to run
Feeling the Bern
Mar 2016
#89
So you're disregarding others votes because they didn't line up with yours?
Chicago1980
Mar 2016
#33
Shhh. . .DUers in the South will flag this as regionalism. . .even though you're 100% correct.
Feeling the Bern
Mar 2016
#36
I've seen posts flagged and hidden because southerners get their knickers in a twist
Feeling the Bern
Mar 2016
#105
Considering I am from Arizona, that makes me being from the "north" a rather idiotic thing to say
Feeling the Bern
Mar 2016
#142
You just proved everything. I am considering the source. Dismissed, ignored and in the pit.
Feeling the Bern
Mar 2016
#149
Woo hoo! Unemployed (full time) for far too long...donated $20 +$3 tip to Code Blue after this news.
C Moon
Mar 2016
#90
God, just for right now I wish I hadn't been banned from the Hillary Clinton group.
Gene Debs
Mar 2016
#91
And, I want to donate to Bernie right now- again. Will someone post a link again?
Cavallo
Mar 2016
#97
So happy Bernie won !!!!!!! WooHoo !!!~ Every Bernie supporter needs to do their part. Make him win!
urbuddha
Mar 2016
#101
I prefer arguments about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin...
malthaussen
Mar 2016
#121
I always lie to pollsters, the last thing you want to do is help them get it right.
bemildred
Mar 2016
#122
Not sure there is much evidence that kind of stuff happens on a large scale.
yellowcanine
Mar 2016
#129