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In reply to the discussion: BREAKING: Bernie Sanders wins the Democratic presidential primary in Michigan. [View all]bemildred
(90,061 posts)128. One analysis:
WTF Happened to Hillary Clinton in Michigan, Explained
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How did the polls get it so wrong?
Michigan is an open primary, meaning that independents can vote and on either party's ballot. That makes the final composition of the electorate impossible to predict, and can make pollsters look foolish when the returns come in.
As far as Democratic Party voters go, the polls had it about right: Clinton won among self-described Democrats by a margin of 16 points (57-41), according to the exit poll.
What was unforeseen was Sander's strength among independents, who made up 28 percent of the electorate. The socialist won this cohort in a landslide, 71-28.
Sanders political revolution had been roundly pooh-poohed after his poor performances in the Deep South. We saw a taste of it on Tuesday night and not just among independents. Turnout among young voters was also stunning: More voters under 30 showed up at the polls than did voters over 65.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/wtf-happened-to-hillary-clinton-in-michigan-explained-20160309
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How did the polls get it so wrong?
Michigan is an open primary, meaning that independents can vote and on either party's ballot. That makes the final composition of the electorate impossible to predict, and can make pollsters look foolish when the returns come in.
As far as Democratic Party voters go, the polls had it about right: Clinton won among self-described Democrats by a margin of 16 points (57-41), according to the exit poll.
What was unforeseen was Sander's strength among independents, who made up 28 percent of the electorate. The socialist won this cohort in a landslide, 71-28.
Sanders political revolution had been roundly pooh-poohed after his poor performances in the Deep South. We saw a taste of it on Tuesday night and not just among independents. Turnout among young voters was also stunning: More voters under 30 showed up at the polls than did voters over 65.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/wtf-happened-to-hillary-clinton-in-michigan-explained-20160309
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BREAKING: Bernie Sanders wins the Democratic presidential primary in Michigan. [View all]
Bubzer
Mar 2016
OP
Exactly. All of the Northern industrialized states had their legs cut from under themtrade deals..
Enthusiast
Mar 2016
#137
So Clinton is the candidate who, though ill-advised lies, can snatch defeat from the
Betty Karlson
Mar 2016
#134
But, but. . .ah, it's only Michigan. Who cares. HRC won Mississippi and look at how she did
Feeling the Bern
Mar 2016
#9
I'm sorry. I never said that to HRC people before Sanders decided to run
Feeling the Bern
Mar 2016
#89
So you're disregarding others votes because they didn't line up with yours?
Chicago1980
Mar 2016
#33
Shhh. . .DUers in the South will flag this as regionalism. . .even though you're 100% correct.
Feeling the Bern
Mar 2016
#36
I've seen posts flagged and hidden because southerners get their knickers in a twist
Feeling the Bern
Mar 2016
#105
Considering I am from Arizona, that makes me being from the "north" a rather idiotic thing to say
Feeling the Bern
Mar 2016
#142
You just proved everything. I am considering the source. Dismissed, ignored and in the pit.
Feeling the Bern
Mar 2016
#149
Woo hoo! Unemployed (full time) for far too long...donated $20 +$3 tip to Code Blue after this news.
C Moon
Mar 2016
#90
God, just for right now I wish I hadn't been banned from the Hillary Clinton group.
Gene Debs
Mar 2016
#91
And, I want to donate to Bernie right now- again. Will someone post a link again?
Cavallo
Mar 2016
#97
So happy Bernie won !!!!!!! WooHoo !!!~ Every Bernie supporter needs to do their part. Make him win!
urbuddha
Mar 2016
#101
I prefer arguments about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin...
malthaussen
Mar 2016
#121
I always lie to pollsters, the last thing you want to do is help them get it right.
bemildred
Mar 2016
#122
Not sure there is much evidence that kind of stuff happens on a large scale.
yellowcanine
Mar 2016
#129