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backscatter712

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29. Colorado is a semi-arid state, so water is a scarce and valuable resource.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:26 PM
Mar 2016

Political squabbling over water has been a feature of Colorado's history since before it became a state.

The water laws here are byzantine, and interests from farmers and ranchers to industries to municipal water suppliers guard their water rights jealously. We have senior and junior water rights, depending on the original year that water sources were spoken for, dating back to 1865. There are a lot of rules - "Use it or lose it", requirements of beneficial use, powers of eminent domain to create ditches and waterways to move water from one place to another, etc. etc. etc.

It's also why the Rocky Mountains have a bunch of dams, tunnels, and waterways that were built over the last hundred years - to bring water from the mountains to the farms and cities. People take it for granted that they can turn on their tap and get a glass of water whenever they want, but there's a lot of infrastructure that made that possible.

As for big water users, like farmers, it's more difficult. Even in good years, they fight for water. In drought years, there's not enough water to go around - if you have senior water rights (which aren't cheap), you get to water your crops first. If your water rights are junior, you get water after the senior rightsholders are done. If the water runs out, too bad.

So, when a drought comes, a political fist fight is coming with it. The farmers and other big water rights holders oppose the rainbarrel bill because in their mind, it's "stealing".

One of the reasons why fracking is so controversial is because of the water - there's the potential for contamination of underground reservoirs, there's the problem with wastewater from fracking operations having all sorts of nasty shit in it, and the frackers use a LOT of water, that the farmers want, Sure the oil and gas guys say "Hey, no problem, we purify the water when we're done with it, you can use it downstream." Suuuuuure you do...

In drought years, we're one step away from the Fremen in Dune.

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In a country where rain barrels are criminal rpannier Mar 2016 #1
Is this like Koch anti-solar-panel legislation where you have to pay the utility to NOT use power? Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2016 #2
I look forward to a day when the Koch bros are made to pay up the wazoo to exist. rusty quoin Mar 2016 #10
Y'all can't collect the water that falls on your house, JoeyT Mar 2016 #19
Republican screw-the-proles economics AxionExcel Mar 2016 #23
If you leave the lid off your trash can and rainwater gets in, is that presently illegal there? rusty quoin Mar 2016 #3
Can someone please explain xloadiex Mar 2016 #4
Here... deathrind Mar 2016 #7
This explains a lot. Being from the east it sounds insane. rusty quoin Mar 2016 #14
Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2016 #25
Thanks xloadiex Mar 2016 #15
For the same reason wells and dams are illegal in many areas of the US Major Nikon Mar 2016 #16
That is such a ridiculous, stupid and absurd argument, tabasco Mar 2016 #35
Do you think someone has the right to divert the rivers that run through their property? muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #37
Well you certainly make a convincing argument Major Nikon Mar 2016 #38
Colorado is a semi-arid state, so water is a scarce and valuable resource. backscatter712 Mar 2016 #29
Maybe you should start shopping for one of those snappy plastic suits. Jerry442 Mar 2016 #34
When Colorado's in a hot drought summer, I've been tempted to invest in a stillsuit... backscatter712 Mar 2016 #36
Also.. cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #32
What rain barrel? Kalidurga Mar 2016 #5
Sorry, but that's photoshopped in... Tab Mar 2016 #12
Well yeah it's photo shopped in Kalidurga Mar 2016 #13
Water laws are insane... deathrind Mar 2016 #6
Here's how much is possible SHRED Mar 2016 #8
Weird. Having a rain barrel in a dry state makes sense! oldandhappy Mar 2016 #9
I have never really understood the argument against personal water collection here. Turn CO Blue Mar 2016 #11
It also seems to me that one major argument against such laws kentauros Mar 2016 #17
I've wondered if the same argument could be made for septic systems. Lodestar Mar 2016 #20
Also when you consider the amount of rooftop ohnoyoudidnt Mar 2016 #31
The land owners with water rights in my area are going batshit crazy mountain grammy Mar 2016 #18
Amen. And you don't need to install a water softener or make as Lodestar Mar 2016 #21
I assumed that it was because of breeding mosquitos. colorado_ufo Mar 2016 #22
That was my first thought too--we're seeing this problem with Zika virus in LatinAmerica nt TheDormouse Mar 2016 #26
They have water wigglers - little things that sit on the surface of the water woodsprite Mar 2016 #28
What is the origin of this restriction? blackspade Mar 2016 #24
See my post above. backscatter712 Mar 2016 #30
That explains all of the crysknives I saw last time I drove through Colorado. Dr. Strange Mar 2016 #33
It is (or used to be) illegal in Chicago to cut ice from Lake Michigan TheDormouse Mar 2016 #27
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