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muriel_volestrangler

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32. The problem in the USA is they use daylight savings for too long for those latitudes
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 04:34 PM
Mar 2016

Here's a chart of sunrise and sunset for Kansas City for the year: http://www.gaisma.com/en/location/kansas-city-kansas.html



With the 'standard' time in winter (ie GMT+6, which is the 'correct' zone for longitude 94.6 degrees W - it should cover 82.5 to 97.5 degrees), your latest sunrise is about 7:30. They shouldn't let DST go on so long (or start so early) that it pushes sunrise after that - so it ought to end in mid-October at the latest, for Kansas City. Places further south either need it ending earlier still, or not to switch at all.

But, for you, if you want an 8 hour fixed time in bed that starts after it's properly dark, and ends after it's properly light, you have to get up after 7:30am, even without any switching. Any time after then, with 8 hours sleep, would also have you going to sleep after it's dark.

(If all the continental US used DST, then the furthest south area, around Miami, ought to show that it should last from the end of March to the end of September. The USA ought to move the start of DST to the date Europe uses - last Sunday in March - and both continents ought to use the last Sunday in September to stop.)

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I agree with this. Schools are starting an hour or more later in many places. MADem Mar 2016 #1
You're trying to take the good parts of both time zones muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #28
I truly hate not having light when I get up. I feel like I'm getting up in the middle of the night. CTyankee Mar 2016 #33
I agree - and DST is an attempt to allow people to get up depending on sunrise muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #34
ho ho ho Go New England! oldandhappy Mar 2016 #2
A lot depends on where you are in a time zone Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2016 #3
You mean early/early, late/late, don't you? subterranean Mar 2016 #9
"early sunsets and late sunrises"? Thor_MN Mar 2016 #10
That's what i get for posting at 11:18PM Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2016 #24
We have a 24 hour day. -none Mar 2016 #4
But, but.... then our iPhones would be out of sync Tab Mar 2016 #18
Actually they wouldn't. -none Mar 2016 #21
I know how it works Tab Mar 2016 #27
I don't think anyone is unaware that we change clock settings LanternWaste Mar 2016 #25
What latitude do you live at, for interest? muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #29
Used to be North Dakota. -none Mar 2016 #31
The problem in the USA is they use daylight savings for too long for those latitudes muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #32
I lived in many US regions. rusty quoin Mar 2016 #5
ugh Indiana LittleGirl Mar 2016 #15
Yeah...it's just wrong. rusty quoin Mar 2016 #16
California! SoapBox Mar 2016 #6
The main problem with staying on DST year round would be that SheilaT Mar 2016 #7
What do they do in Alaska, Canada, N. Europe, Russia? Quixote1818 Mar 2016 #8
There's a large difference between those places, which have always had SheilaT Mar 2016 #23
Northern Europe uses daylight savings and normal, except Russia; most of Canada does too muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #30
I don't recall that "little experiment" but I DO recall living in AZ, MH1 Mar 2016 #35
Two days a year. SheilaT Mar 2016 #36
I'd like to abolish it. zentrum Mar 2016 #11
Eliminate Daylight Savings Time Yallow Mar 2016 #12
+1,000 n/t LarryNM Mar 2016 #19
Yes! Leave it at Spring Foward! nt C Moon Mar 2016 #13
Here's John Oliver's take on it... camelfan Mar 2016 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author FreedomRain Mar 2016 #17
So who is lobbying Congress in favor of keeping daylight savings time? Follow the money... n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #20
Reminds me of: FSogol Mar 2016 #22
Marking. I love these type threads on DU underpants Mar 2016 #26
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