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ChairmanAgnostic

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9. I disagree with most here.

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:15 PM

Mar 2016

8th graders are on their way to being middle teens, and all too soon, texting, tweeting, hunched over their phone adults.

Should they be protected from the Holocaust? From Stalin's purges? From PolPots massive crimes against humanity? Should our own civil war be ignored because so many were killed in battle, and even more died from flu, typhoid, and other diseases?

I do not think so. With the proper context, explanation, and warning, and permitting those who did not want to watch to leave, I think this was appropriate. Just because our earth has some extremely nasty events happening, is that any reason to whitewash it and pretend it never happened?

You can convince me that I am wrong. I often am. BUT I am very interested in your reasoning that this was improper. I will read and respond.

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Middle school teacher fined, but will keep job after showing ISIS decapitation video to class [View all] tabasco Mar 2016 OP

Motive is important to me, in a case like this. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #1

Can you think of a motive that would mitigate such a horrible mistake? tabasco Mar 2016 #3

Cant think of one but I am curious. I personally made sure I did not watch it, so I think Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #4

I agree in principle. forest444 Mar 2016 #38

Fine, let's show 8th-graders porn since they already know about sex... Blue_Tires Mar 2016 #49

i agree - we want to believe or not really appreciate the horror of the Islamic State beheadings MariaThinks Mar 2016 #6

Motive is secondary.. Iggo Mar 2016 #7

I don't have a problem with showing the video yeoman6987 Mar 2016 #18

Since when did we fine school teachers? bluedigger Mar 2016 #2

Stay tuned, soon school teachers will be minimum wage workers relying on Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #5

married to a teacher,,,pg ratings make them squirm dembotoz Mar 2016 #8

I disagree with most here. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #9

I think most adolescent psychologists would agree with me. tabasco Mar 2016 #12

Yet the violence in the gaming world is amazingly realistic these days. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #15

"Realistic" does not equal "real". PassingFair Mar 2016 #42

Ok. But I wonder. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #46

If a kid watches a movie like SAW, they know that special effects... PassingFair Mar 2016 #50

Yes...I grew up in the '70s deutsey Mar 2016 #54

You don't need to see a graphic video to understand all those things. CBHagman Mar 2016 #26

Thank you. Your post is far more informative and convincing. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #27

Yes, definitely. CBHagman Mar 2016 #39

Tough issues. Great questions. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #40

Should have made viewing the footage voluntary. Coventina Mar 2016 #10

YES! This! ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #11

Seek help. tabasco Mar 2016 #14

where do you suggest I go? ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #16

Your local Health and Human Services agency. tabasco Mar 2016 #17

Are you always this rude? ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #23

Why should ChairmanAgnostic seek help, and what are your credentials? Marengo Mar 2016 #61

That's sick. tabasco Mar 2016 #13

In a perfect world I'd agree with you. People shouldn't have to see such things. Coventina Mar 2016 #22

Schools are supposed to protect kids from any form of violence, callous taoboy Mar 2016 #57

Few, if any, 13 year olds are 'mature'. In fact, they are still very much children. whathehell Mar 2016 #20

I agree. In a perfect world, nobody should see such horrors. Coventina Mar 2016 #24

We're talking about childten here.. whathehell Mar 2016 #29

I couldn't agree with you more. One of my top priorities as a teacher callous taoboy Mar 2016 #58

Thanks for your input, Callous.. whathehell Mar 2016 #60

Wow, I hadn't even considered the impact callous taoboy Mar 2016 #62

Yes.. whathehell Mar 2016 #64

agree OwlinAZ Mar 2016 #37

I really hope that you are not an educator. If you callous taoboy Mar 2016 #59

Actually, I'm a college professor. And, I generally receive stellar ratings from Coventina Mar 2016 #63

That moron should be fired. n/t whathehell Mar 2016 #19

Agree WhoWoodaKnew Mar 2016 #30

When I was 13 the media was showing greenscreen "smart" bombs hitting targets in Iraq. killbotfactory Mar 2016 #21

Personally, I think that is more damaging, in that it shows killing as something sanitized Coventina Mar 2016 #25

This teacher was way out of line. Perhaps not fired but severely reprimanded. YOHABLO Mar 2016 #28

Middle school kids are way too young to be exposed to this kind of video without parental consent. Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #31

I've made a conscious effort to never watch these videos. E-Z-B Mar 2016 #32

College students are generally allowed to opt-out of being shown anything violent for a course Blasphemer Mar 2016 #33

Bottom Line: chwaliszewski Mar 2016 #34

Teachers can be 'fined'?? Chemisse Mar 2016 #35

I would sue her for abuse. Adults let alone children can traumatized for life. This is snagglepuss Mar 2016 #36

If it were fake it would be an R rated movie TexasBushwhacker Mar 2016 #41

It depends One_Life_To_Give Mar 2016 #43

Today's overprotected children can't handle seeing ISIS beheading video clips? Quantess Mar 2016 #44

Riiiiight. tabasco Mar 2016 #45

Well, your ideas sure seem more appropriate in a century that we passed by a couple ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #47

FWIW, I've seen teachers fired for a lot less than this Blue_Tires Mar 2016 #48

I made a personal decision not to watch those videos Merryland Mar 2016 #51

You would sue the hell out of the teacher? oberliner Mar 2016 #53

I won't watch, and I've seen the insides of Ilsa Mar 2016 #52

imagine how she teaches sex ed. yurbud Mar 2016 #55

I agree, she should have been fired. What was she thinking? n/t callous taoboy Mar 2016 #56