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HuckleB

(35,773 posts) Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:23 PM Mar 2016

Pa. dairy’s raw milk is linked to listeriosis death [View all]

Source: The Detroit News

A Pennsylvania dairy that supplies raw milk around the country has been linked to two cases of listeriosis, one of them fatal, according to health authorities.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said one person in California and one in Florida became infected from raw milk in 2014. The Florida victim died.

Officials say the source is believed to be milk from Miller’s Organic Farm located in Bird-in-Hand in Lancaster County. Miller’s Organic Farm, which isn’t licensed by or inspected by the state agriculture department, doesn’t do retail sales but does business via mail order to a membership club.

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Health officials said the source of the illnesses wasn’t known until January, when the U.S. Food and Drug Administration informed the CDC that whole genome sequencing of Listeria bacteria from raw chocolate milk produced by the farm in November 2015 was genetically related to samples taken from two affected individuals. State and federal health officials said they were concerned that there might be further contamination of raw milk and raw dairy products distributed by the company.

Read more: http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2016/03/21/raw-milk-listeriosis/82080282/

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Pa. dairy’s raw milk is linked to listeriosis death [View all] HuckleB Mar 2016 OP

There is a reason for pasteurization jpak Mar 2016 #1

I've picked up fresh non-pasteurized milk from a farm in Lancaster bigworld Mar 2016 #3

Right... mail order? jberryhill Mar 2016 #9

There's also a reason for dairy regulation Major Nikon Mar 2016 #15

Pennsylvania does regulate it. This dairy opted out. It is illegal to ship it across state lines in yellowcanine Mar 2016 #30

That position simply ensures more people will get sick Major Nikon Mar 2016 #31

Not really a good comparison. The science is quite different. yellowcanine Mar 2016 #32

Actually people do die from fucking and in far greater numbers Major Nikon Mar 2016 #35

Um... AIDS? Syphilis? AnnieBW Mar 2016 #37

I've been drinking raw milk for the past 6 years... Javaman Mar 2016 #41

Sex is fun, but deadly FrodosPet Mar 2016 #44

Bird-in-Hand is right down the road from Intercourse KamaAina Mar 2016 #2

Oh, goodness. Wow! HuckleB Mar 2016 #4

[insert Blue Ball joke here] eom bigworld Mar 2016 #5

well intercourse doesnt mean sex unless you add sexual to it saturnsring Mar 2016 #14

I usually do jberryhill Mar 2016 #27

Well, here's how you can find out. Orrex Mar 2016 #40

Right down the Hershey Highway Major Nikon Mar 2016 #16

Can you just hear it: "I live in Intercourse". Yeah, well that would be nice. YOHABLO Mar 2016 #28

There are no direct flights from Intercourse, PA to Climax, MN. Thor_MN Mar 2016 #33

For God's sake, I hope that this wasn't GMO milk Orrex Mar 2016 #6

It's worse. It's Monsanto milk! HuckleB Mar 2016 #7

They're Amish jberryhill Mar 2016 #10

The Amish grow BT corn. HuckleB Mar 2016 #17

They run puppy mills too jberryhill Mar 2016 #21

Oh, goodness! (Re: Your last comment.) HuckleB Mar 2016 #24

Well that's why I said I don't know if they sell raw milk in the store jberryhill Mar 2016 #26

Shipping raw milk from PA to CA and FL? jberryhill Mar 2016 #8

A few farms here in Wisconsin want to sell raw milk legally... Archae Mar 2016 #11

In Europe they sell it out of vending machines Major Nikon Mar 2016 #18

Not to the general amusement or approval of regulators jberryhill Mar 2016 #22

As an emerging idea, I'm sure it's going to take a while for the regulation to catch up Major Nikon Mar 2016 #23

I grew up in Pittsburgh area, Butler CO. PA. FarPoint Mar 2016 #12

Lots of people got lucky. HuckleB Mar 2016 #13

Just because the nutters make stupid claims about the health benefits... Major Nikon Mar 2016 #20

Considering how little is sold, I'm not sure I buy the argument that the rate is low. HuckleB Mar 2016 #25

It's important to understand what the numbers mean Major Nikon Mar 2016 #29

You make a good argument, but you would have to provide data to convince me. HuckleB Mar 2016 #45

I look at it the other way Major Nikon Mar 2016 #49

Come on, you know better... HuckleB Mar 2016 #64

Know better than what? Major Nikon Mar 2016 #100

. timstephens13 Mar 2016 #19

2960? You wouldn't have a spare 22nd century sports almanac by any chance? Thor_MN Mar 2016 #34

I didn't catch that... FarPoint Mar 2016 #36

I was just hoping you could tell me who wins the next ten World Series... Thor_MN Mar 2016 #38

There isn't any way of making raw milk totally safe. hollowdweller Mar 2016 #39

This seems to be the reality from what I can find, in terms of actual science. HuckleB Mar 2016 #46

at times it is good to have problems with lactose dembotoz Mar 2016 #42

Dairy cows live a terrible life chernabog Mar 2016 #43

I'm sure they do. HuckleB Mar 2016 #47

Why not? chernabog Mar 2016 #48

Because they regularly promote nonsense Major Nikon Mar 2016 #50

What nonsense would that be? chernabog Mar 2016 #51

Do you need more examples than the 5 provided? Major Nikon Mar 2016 #52

They are a shelter of last resort. chernabog Mar 2016 #53

The "shelter of last resort" is complete nonsense and has been well debunked Major Nikon Mar 2016 #54

Ok well chernabog Mar 2016 #55

You can lead a horse to water... Major Nikon Mar 2016 #56

Are you trying to say Peta chernabog Mar 2016 #57

Actually PETA says that Major Nikon Mar 2016 #58

You don't think they do any good? chernabog Mar 2016 #59

You're getting off topic Major Nikon Mar 2016 #60

Can you give any examples of this nonsense chernabog Mar 2016 #61

Are you responsible for the killing of animals? Major Nikon Mar 2016 #62

No I'm not. chernabog Mar 2016 #63

Possibly Major Nikon Mar 2016 #65

Haha ok chernabog Mar 2016 #66

This is what PETA actually said... Major Nikon Mar 2016 #67

Did I ask you? chernabog Mar 2016 #68

This is getting old really quick Major Nikon Mar 2016 #69

all I did was cite facts about the dairy industry. chernabog Mar 2016 #70

I don't have a problem with that, nor did I ever imply as much Major Nikon Mar 2016 #71

Well you started this whole thing so chernabog Mar 2016 #72

... Major Nikon Mar 2016 #73

Yeah exactly chernabog Mar 2016 #74

I felt the need to chime in because you asked a question and I answered it Major Nikon Mar 2016 #75

Yeah but I didn't ask you. chernabog Mar 2016 #76

I don't really care if you did or didn't Major Nikon Mar 2016 #77

Hahahaha chernabog Mar 2016 #79

Wrong...again Major Nikon Mar 2016 #81

Virtually all of the Soy grown chernabog Mar 2016 #82

"You do realize that all that soy grown in Latin America goes to feeding livestock right?" Major Nikon Mar 2016 #83

So instead of saying all the soy chernabog Mar 2016 #84

So you only have to feel guilty over 2% of the animals you're killing Major Nikon Mar 2016 #85

Wtf are you talking about chernabog Mar 2016 #86

This one worked out pretty well, actually Major Nikon Mar 2016 #87

So you just post things chernabog Mar 2016 #88

You stole my line! Major Nikon Mar 2016 #89

Nope, sure didn't. chernabog Mar 2016 #90

Pasturizing is easy. OkSustainAg Mar 2016 #78

It's easy and cheap Major Nikon Mar 2016 #96

Why would large milk producers be afraid if raw milk can't compete? Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #98

... Major Nikon Mar 2016 #99

That's a contraction of the market, does it separate raw milk from pasteurized? Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #101

I don't think raw milk is causing the reduction in pasteurized sales to any large degree Major Nikon Mar 2016 #102

Why would you drink raw milk? HassleCat Mar 2016 #80

Why consume raw anything when you can get just about everything in a can? Major Nikon Mar 2016 #91

Is that what you do? chernabog Mar 2016 #92

Are you trolling me now? Major Nikon Mar 2016 #93

No, I was asking a question. chernabog Mar 2016 #95

Fresher does taste better HassleCat Mar 2016 #94

I agree there's probably no health benefit Major Nikon Mar 2016 #97

Depends on how you see the role of government. HassleCat Mar 2016 #104

I don't see the role of government as allowing what I can do Major Nikon Mar 2016 #105

Apples and oranges HassleCat Mar 2016 #106

Have you ever drank unpasteurized milk? Major Nikon Mar 2016 #107

possible,they sure are large with a lot of "Partners" selling online.Looks good though, I registered Sunlei Mar 2016 #103