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96. One is the system as it exists.....

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:03 PM

Mar 2016

..... the other is the system as it exists. Some what like nature, to be commanded it must be obeyed. The only way to change the system is to work the system.

So, good luck with your "political revolution". And enjoy your super deligates.

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Bernie Sanders wins Democrats Abroad primary [View all] bigworld Mar 2016 OP

Excellent news! gsb54 Mar 2016 #1

Hillary didn't waste her time and money: She is working for the American people lewebley3 Mar 2016 #40

Hey. Bernie netted 5 delegates out of that primary. stopbush Mar 2016 #41

Are you suggesting that American's living abroad aren't the American people? pinebox Mar 2016 #43

They're definitely not a part of the 1% padfun Mar 2016 #45

Or to be more pricise: This win for Bernie Sanders does not count because Jemmons Mar 2016 #58

I'm one of those living abroad..... Clifton Mar 2016 #64

Excellent comment alcina Mar 2016 #72

Thanks alcina...I haven't visited jackpineradicals...I'll check it out - nt Clifton Mar 2016 #78

Thank you! dorkzilla Mar 2016 #87

I lived in Germany for over a decade :) pinebox Mar 2016 #101

yes, it will all seem like a bad dream once we do it. Baobab Mar 2016 #105

I think he's just ignorant of the fact that they are AMERICANS living abroad. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #135

Bernie got 69% of the votes, and the voters are Americans who happen to live overseas. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #57

Bernie got 87% of the votes here in Japan Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #111

There are 3 Americans living abroad from my family. They voted for Bernie. eom Duval Mar 2016 #66

Ridiculous Comment...Again billhicks76 Mar 2016 #67

Hey, Einstein, these are Americans! CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #73

Your friend should be working in American where Americans live lewebley3 Mar 2016 #90

Americans live all over the world. pinebox Mar 2016 #102

well put Baobab Mar 2016 #107

What a stupid thing to say. BeanMusical Mar 2016 #113

Well the Hillary supporters do say that Bernie is receiving money in an off-short bank account... JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #126

yeah cause nothing says hey the Military doesn't trust you PatrynXX Mar 2016 #92

I am American... Thespian2 Mar 2016 #93

And yet, foreign relations mean what? gsb54 Mar 2016 #94

That's right! She has her priorities. Hillary doesn't waste her time to get a few overseas votes. A Simple Game Mar 2016 #106

Off-topic pantsonfire Mar 2016 #114

Because Americans living overseas aren't part of the "American people"? nt dflprincess Mar 2016 #119

The things one "learns" on message boards Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #125

Wonder what the demographics are? bigworld Mar 2016 #2

probably at least people with college degrees floppyboo Mar 2016 #11

At least 69% are highly intelligent, moral and thoughtful ... ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #16

Hey, these folks sound just like the people I like to hang around with...... a kennedy Mar 2016 #26

I see what you did there. :>))))))))) pangaia Mar 2016 #37

or floppyboo Mar 2016 #44

Lol! KPN Mar 2016 #70

I assure you it consists of people who understand how bad American foreign policy affects JDPriestly Mar 2016 #62

You're correct. They do understand. Duval Mar 2016 #69

Great! This result suggests that the farther away one is from US media FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #3

The truth, US mainstream media sucks. Thank You *DEMOCRATS ABROAD*!! appalachiablue Mar 2016 #27

True. Americans are fed a constant diet of corporate propaganda... polichick Mar 2016 #55

Isn't this news like two weeks old now? How many of these Democrats Abroad primaries are there? Gene Debs Mar 2016 #4

The previous results were for in-person voting only... mak3cats Mar 2016 #5

This was the only one I'd ever heard about. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #6

apparently corporate media has yet to figure out how to squelch international news outlets tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #7

Bernie isn't considered to be a radical anywhere in the world but here. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #8

That's the bottom line Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #50

Evidently MSM propaganda doesn't reach every location on earth. Gregorian Mar 2016 #9

Does this result in any delegates? modestybl Mar 2016 #10

I have the same question. geardaddy Mar 2016 #12

2nd paragraph. SamKnause Mar 2016 #14

Thanks! geardaddy Mar 2016 #17

You are most welcome. SamKnause Mar 2016 #21

Sanders 9 SamKnause Mar 2016 #13

Yes, Sanders wins 13 including 4 superdelegates, Clinton gets only 4 delegates Land Shark Mar 2016 #19

I see 1 Clinton Super-Delegate and 3 uncommitted Renew Deal Mar 2016 #23

Directly at the democrats abroad link. Let me see if it changed Land Shark Mar 2016 #30

I see 3 -1 but all in Sanders column, maybe green papers has it wrong, what do you see? Land Shark Mar 2016 #32

So it looks like Bernie picked up +9 delegates Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #53

My bad, I think it is 9-4 on the actually elected delegates Land Shark Mar 2016 #63

This isn't much of a surprise... Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #15

Sanders won delegates 13-4 (including 4 supers), and countries/regions 52-3. Land Shark Mar 2016 #18

My friend and her husband live in France, Loki Mar 2016 #20

These votes count too. Sanders 13 - 4 Hillary JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #22

link to breakdown of vote by country floppyboo Mar 2016 #24

Suddenly, the Bernie supporters love them some super delegates. stopbush Mar 2016 #47

It isn't inconsistent to hate superdelegates as a theory but recognize it is the system we have now. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #49

That might hold water had the BSers not railed against the supers for months stopbush Mar 2016 #54

Bernie won both pledged and supers so I don't know what you are whining about JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #56

I'm not whining. Hillary already has this thing won. A few delegates stopbush Mar 2016 #59

I'm not whining. AlbertCat Mar 2016 #76

BTW, it's JS Bach's birthday today (old calendar) stopbush Mar 2016 #77

And nothing holier than thou about reading the numbers. AlbertCat Mar 2016 #81

Can't stand JE Gardiner's Bach. Faceless, fast and fickle. stopbush Mar 2016 #86

I encourage you to... pantsonfire Mar 2016 #118

True, and it isn't inconsistent to.?. reACTIONary Mar 2016 #75

One is a less than ideal nominating process. The other legalized bribery. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #80

One is the system as it exists..... reACTIONary Mar 2016 #96

I'd rationalize a distinction lacking a relevant difference too if my bias required it of me... LanternWaste Mar 2016 #139

While superdelegates aren't going to evaporate... pantsonfire Mar 2016 #117

It's not the votes that matter in the primary as much as RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #25

Maybe your friend and their husband don't get out much... phazed0 Mar 2016 #39

Sanders 73%, Clinton 27% in Paris Laughing Mirror Mar 2016 #46

Turnout up 50% from '08; 34,570 voters! And they count! Bernie-69%!HC-31% Divernan Mar 2016 #82

In Japan: Bernie - 1178; Hill - 176 !!! Divernan Mar 2016 #83

Wow Loki Mar 2016 #97

So glad you're not a victim of arrogance and reckless certitude! Divernan Mar 2016 #103

Yup Loki Mar 2016 #108

Using his initials as an attack is a rotten right wing tactic. liberalnarb Mar 2016 #120

I used his first name, duh. Loki Mar 2016 #121

... liberalnarb Mar 2016 #124

They do this in the Hillary group frequently too. I swear some of them make me wonder who is a (D) JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #128

good. navarth Mar 2016 #28

K & R imagine2015 Mar 2016 #29

Color me ignorant Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2016 #31

The majority of Americans living abroad vote by absentee ballots BooScout Mar 2016 #33

Yes, this is more akin to a poll, except it counts. total # votes: 34,570 floppyboo Mar 2016 #36

Meh BooScout Mar 2016 #38

Ok. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #51

Well in 2016, it's definitely NOT a cumbersome process... MattSh Mar 2016 #130

Since I am a member of Democrats Abroad I will disagree... BooScout Mar 2016 #131

And since I am a member of Democrats Abroad I will disagree with your disagreement... MattSh Mar 2016 #137

I've had expats from all over the world tell me similar stories about DA... BooScout Mar 2016 #138

What I found very interesting re. Americans abroad floppyboo Mar 2016 #34

When Americans get out of America and actually go somewhere, pangaia Mar 2016 #35

For state elections LittleGirl Mar 2016 #42

They can see the zentrum Mar 2016 #48

Yes, well they're well aware of HRC's foreign policy and its impact. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #52

Making much ado about nothing in my opinion. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #60

So Sanders got more votes himself than the total people who voted in 2008. mhatrw Mar 2016 #88

That is not true. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #110

The context was pretty clearly limited to the Democrats Abroad primary. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #129

So it should be based on just one primary. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #140

Travel enhances the palette for creative expression and critical thinking... drokhole Mar 2016 #61

These well-informed voters are WORKING abroad, not just visiting Divernan Mar 2016 #91

Great news. Duval Mar 2016 #65

This is what happens.... AlbertCat Mar 2016 #68

Woo hoo! alcina Mar 2016 #71

Salon Says Hillary Merging Republican Hawks Into Democratic Party billhicks76 Mar 2016 #74

52 countries/regions for Sanders, 3 for Hillary Clinton Land Shark Mar 2016 #133

Agreed billhicks76 Mar 2016 #134

Hillary supporter are mostly Cryptoad Mar 2016 #79

Updated Delegate Count Cryptoad Mar 2016 #84

Sanders has now won nearly 54% of the pledged delegates to date outside of the Bible belt. mhatrw Mar 2016 #89

U need to bet some money on that Cryptoad Mar 2016 #95

10th "win"? George II Mar 2016 #85

"I was in the pool!" BeanMusical Mar 2016 #115

Keep on rolling, Bernie supporters! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #98

This is amazing! blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #99

3 from here! dwrjr Mar 2016 #100

Yes, I do think people who currently live outside this country have a better POV. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #104

Outside The US People See Without Blinders billhicks76 Mar 2016 #109

Feel,the Bern! GOLGO 13 Mar 2016 #112

Kick and R BeanMusical Mar 2016 #116

I thought this was just some global poll of some kind. Left Coast2020 Mar 2016 #122

!! polly7 Mar 2016 #123

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #127

Truth be told, rigging's be voided, Bernie has won a lot more. laserhaas Mar 2016 #132

Don't forget . . . . bigger voter turnout and bigger margin win than Obama. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #136