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140. you're arguing that the South doesn't matter in the nomination

Reply to Bubzer (Reply #20)

Thu Mar 24, 2016, 04:13 PM

Mar 2016

at the same time you're arguing that Idaho and Utah do matter?

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Democrats Evenly Split Over Clinton, Sanders in Bloomberg Poll [View all] Bubzer Mar 2016 OP

You win the nomination by getting the most DELEGATES bravenak Mar 2016 #1

Sure, sure. She got stomped in utah and Idaho. And her take in Az is under investigation. Bubzer Mar 2016 #3

He got the brakes beat off in the ENTIRE SOUTH bravenak Mar 2016 #16

... Stomped. In UT. And ID. Hard. Into the ground. Bubzer Mar 2016 #20

You think the South don't matter in the DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY? bravenak Mar 2016 #23

She will never get the south in a GE... she will/is lose(ing) most blue states. Bubzer Mar 2016 #25

He won't either bravenak Mar 2016 #30

Thank you for admiting HRC is NOTHING but an ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE!!! Bubzer Mar 2016 #34

And I will be waiting for the establishment to say 'kick rocks and keep on kicking em" bravenak Mar 2016 #37

Which is hillarious... because she CANT WIN! Especially not without sanders supporters. Bubzer Mar 2016 #48

And he cannot win the nom without more than half of the black voters bravenak Mar 2016 #53

Oh will the hillaryity never cease... more of you... LOL. Bubzer Mar 2016 #83

Bye! See you when you come home to Hillary!! bravenak Mar 2016 #97

No...I wont be comming to heel. No matter how many times your candidate says it. Bubzer Mar 2016 #144

You say this like you need to convince people that you matter Cary Mar 2016 #226

Comming from a hillary supporter (you), that means almost nothing to me. Bubzer Mar 2016 #229

Of course you missed my point Cary Mar 2016 #233

You mean the point couched in ad hominem and concern trolling? Yeah... couldn't see it. Bubzer Mar 2016 #237

Just because your reality is harsh doesn't mean my willingness to state it is an ad hominem Cary Mar 2016 #238

More veiled ad hominem. This conversation's over and you're going onto ignore. Bubzer Mar 2016 #240

Wrong Cary Mar 2016 #241

But thanks for reinforcing my theory that: Cary Mar 2016 #242

Can you show polls that reflect that specifically? KPN Mar 2016 #84

Big time! Bubzer Mar 2016 #93

How do you know we won't do the same as his supporters have been threatening to do? bravenak Mar 2016 #94

You could be right ... we'll see ... KPN Mar 2016 #105

I've been voting straight ticket Democratic since 1974 - I will NEVER vote for another Clinton! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #102

Wholeheartedly agree! Bubzer Mar 2016 #111

It pissed me off no end that the media is making it seems like all Bernie supporters Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #114

You know, oddly enough, that's not the part that angers me. It's that people here are buying into it Bubzer Mar 2016 #122

Well, the Hillary people will buy into anything that helps their side - right or wrong. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #124

Yeah, it's been amazingly bad. On the positive side, DU's loss is JPR's gain. Bubzer Mar 2016 #147

Yup, which is how the Freeps Roll Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #254

YES! fierywoman Mar 2016 #207

That is an excellent, trenchant observation. "Don't piss Bernie or his followers off!" Akamai Mar 2016 #231

I Just Posted Some Information About Calls Made Into The Thom Hartmann ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #129

Just came from a Hillary meeting in Jamaica Queens NY redkwamya Mar 2016 #186

Do you really believe most black voters cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #230

As soon as I saw who had taken over this thread SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #243

Awww... but I will miss you SCantiGOP. Bubzer Mar 2016 #247

When they realize that math sharp_stick Mar 2016 #43

I cannot wait to be DEAF to this ridiculous nonsense. bravenak Mar 2016 #45

Why wait? You could start right now. In fact, I encourage it! Bubzer Mar 2016 #50

I will when this whole nonsense is put on mute bravenak Mar 2016 #54

The sniping and name-calling aside angrychair Mar 2016 #79

The NONSENSE of the South not mattering and her wins meaning nothing bravenak Mar 2016 #82

I agree bravenak angrychair Mar 2016 #120

I think we should all vote on the same day bravenak Mar 2016 #190

Then who would get millions of dollars angrychair Mar 2016 #225

Oh, but I think he already is! KPN Mar 2016 #87

Could be! Bubzer Mar 2016 #90

You'll be pretty damn speechless when Trump is elected. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #103

Hey! bravenak Mar 2016 #104

Yes it is! LOL!!! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #108

I said it before. greymouse Mar 2016 #171

But Bernie does NOT HAVE the lead bravenak Mar 2016 #175

And you think the Dems will win Idaho and Utah in the general? spooky3 Mar 2016 #123

And for you too: Bubzer Mar 2016 #150

How amusing. Check out 538, which gives the clear edge to sanders spooky3 Mar 2016 #154

Hey, why don't you take your own advice eh? Cause umm...you're not right! Bubzer Mar 2016 #155

Aw, you really like non sequiturs. Why don't you spooky3 Mar 2016 #167

LOL...you're just gonna ignore the facts...typical hilly supporter...cant stand facts. Bubzer Mar 2016 #170

Here is a fact for you. leftofcool Mar 2016 #189

Idaho is on the brink of turning blue. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #199

Hillary won't campaign in the South if she captures the nomination. It'll be a boycott. imagine2015 Mar 2016 #136

Yes she will bravenak Mar 2016 #161

Bernie might, but HRC, not so much. GoneOffShore Mar 2016 #245

Bernie already has cross over draw... she still has none. Bubzer Mar 2016 #250

And that's the thing the HRC boosters can't seem to grasp. GoneOffShore Mar 2016 #251

But Utah and Idaho have? mcar Mar 2016 #76

You misunderstand...hilly should have won UT and ID...but she didn't. She got HAMMERED! Bubzer Mar 2016 #80

That's not what you said mcar Mar 2016 #88

Non sequiter... but please, keep trying! Every one of you hillarians are kicking my post! Bubzer Mar 2016 #91

A direct quote is not a non sequitur mcar Mar 2016 #95

So you're saying somone cannot add onto an argument? Bubzer Mar 2016 #107

Utah has a good chance of going blue in the general. greymouse Mar 2016 #174

Mormons have a long history of being persecuted. strategery blunder Mar 2016 #183

As if UT and ID are blue states! brer cat Mar 2016 #81

... Bubzer Mar 2016 #85

Or red states like Idaho, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Utah? Amimnoch Mar 2016 #125

Normally I'd agree that the blue states would vote blue regardless. However... Bubzer Mar 2016 #130

you're arguing that the South doesn't matter in the nomination CreekDog Mar 2016 #140

Oh look, another one. Here you go: Bubzer Mar 2016 #149

you spelled "missunderstand" wrong CreekDog Mar 2016 #156

Hey, look at that! You get to be right about something... I did indeed misspell a word. Bubzer Mar 2016 #158

Yeah! To hell with democracy! Hurray for dienfranchisement! kjones Mar 2016 #212

they do'nt count YET!! MasonDreams Mar 2016 #196

They already got COUNTED!!! bravenak Mar 2016 #197

Super delegates do not even vote for a candidate until the convention MasonDreams Mar 2016 #202

I know THAT bravenak Mar 2016 #204

the Times they are a changin' MasonDreams Mar 2016 #208

More of 'the people' voted for Hillary bravenak Mar 2016 #209

He lost the south due to deep-seated past memories of a Clinton past mdbl Mar 2016 #215

Good grief! They like her better, so what? bravenak Mar 2016 #220

and they don't know why mdbl Mar 2016 #252

Wrong but thanks for playing Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #22

AZ is under investigation. Does that bother you? It should. Bubzer Mar 2016 #27

The state of Arizona not Hillary Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #33

" that should affect all candidates equally" LOL...no... not even close. Nice try though! Bubzer Mar 2016 #36

Explain how it gives her an advantage Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #38

You're mistaken if you think I care if you're convinced. Bubzer Mar 2016 #51

You must care Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #55

Awww. Well shucks. Guess I'l just have to live without being pestered by another HRC fan... Bubzer Mar 2016 #117

Let me try to explain. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #106

Is it warm in that fantasyland of yours? n/t sharp_stick Mar 2016 #44

Ya know, I'd stab myself with a... sharp stick... before I'd "come to heel" for her. Bubzer Mar 2016 #151

You lack objectivity. LanternWaste Mar 2016 #221

I love when you hilly supporters post crap like this. Bubzer Mar 2016 #222

Agreed katmille Mar 2016 #148

AZ will not change. fun n serious Mar 2016 #47

Don't remember 2008? Bubzer Mar 2016 #127

Do you know how much he reduced her lead by in those two elections? pnwmom Mar 2016 #121

And I would be VERY surprised if she lost the two biggest spooky3 Mar 2016 #126

After almost 15 million people have voted, Clinton has a popular vote lead of 2.7 million. George II Mar 2016 #169

So far. If she does ... KPN Mar 2016 #78

And she has built and stronger more diverse coalition bravenak Mar 2016 #86

"And she has built and stronger more diverse coalition"... of corporations and dirty money. Bubzer Mar 2016 #96

Black and minority and women voters are not 'corporations and dirty money' bravenak Mar 2016 #100

It doesn't matter how you deflect. She will NEVER escape all the dirty money... Bubzer Mar 2016 #109

I'm bored with the superpredator stuff bravenak Mar 2016 #162

True. KPN Mar 2016 #99

We are real democrats who want to improve the party bravenak Mar 2016 #101

LOL Bubzer Mar 2016 #153

You like that? bravenak Mar 2016 #163

Naw, that's okay. I'll leave the smears and hatred to you. Bubzer Mar 2016 #166

Sorry, I thought you preferred Jill Stein? Paulie Mar 2016 #176

I said if she were a DEMOCRAT bravenak Mar 2016 #177

As I remember it was because she couldn't win. Paulie Mar 2016 #178

That too bravenak Mar 2016 #181

Moving fiscally to the right only helps wealthy Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #253

Agreed: and Sanders has never been vetted: he has been let off because he is not lewebley3 Mar 2016 #115

Yep. It is a waste of time and resources bravenak Mar 2016 #118

HILLARY CLINTON sublimecabbie Mar 2016 #135

Don't care bravenak Mar 2016 #164

I thought you didn't like Hillary? progressoid Mar 2016 #146

Like, shcmike bravenak Mar 2016 #159

not emotionally involved? progressoid Mar 2016 #172

I only love Obama bravenak Mar 2016 #173

You know there are other emotions other than love, right? progressoid Mar 2016 #187

Is that a serious question? SMH bravenak Mar 2016 #188

It's rhetorical. progressoid Mar 2016 #193

Meh. They are both boring bravenak Mar 2016 #194

Don't you have some other "Jews" to be antisemitic to, Bravenak? w4rma Mar 2016 #185

The fact that the preference is basically 50/50... thesquanderer Mar 2016 #191

I think it is that the sampling is not that great bravenak Mar 2016 #192

True, there's an option (d), the poll methodology sucks. ;-) (n/t) thesquanderer Mar 2016 #195

re: "We do it by delegates." thesquanderer Mar 2016 #219

Bubzer, as Senator Sanders has said, saidsimplesimon Mar 2016 #2

We still have about half of the delegates up for grabs. Bubzer Mar 2016 #5

44% of the delegates remain LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #12

And Sanders needs 60+% of those Gman Mar 2016 #21

58% actually. Easily achievable... Bubzer Mar 2016 #31

You do realize that the pro Hillary states have more delegates, right? bravenak Mar 2016 #46

"STATES SHE IS GOING TO WIN" Keep telling yourself that. Maybe you'll be able to sleep at night. Bubzer Mar 2016 #56

Hee hee! I sleep great. bravenak Mar 2016 #57

Like how she kept us safe from the Iraq war? Yeah, good luck with that. Bubzer Mar 2016 #70

How was that all on her? bravenak Mar 2016 #73

She ain't winning Ca Politicalboi Mar 2016 #69

You guys said that about AZ bravenak Mar 2016 #71

Hillary got 12.5% of registered voters in SC MasonDreams Mar 2016 #200

Has nothing to do with winning this primary that only a certain amount voted bravenak Mar 2016 #201

But are they voting against repubs and MasonDreams Mar 2016 #206

You have no clue what 'they' are voting because of bravenak Mar 2016 #210

Bernie should win NY and will definately win CA BIG! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #110

Unlikely bravenak Mar 2016 #113

67% of New Yorkers re-elected Hillary Senator. She's very well liked in NY, pnwmom Mar 2016 #157

You, are operating with old data, You will ver VERY surpriesd! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #182

Some new data from last week's Emerson poll puts her way ahead. pnwmom Mar 2016 #236

OK - anywho - It will be fun for all watching the rest of the primaries. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #239

But she was running against a republican. This time she's running against a true progressive. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #223

That's about half. Regardless, it's still more than enough to beat hilly. Bubzer Mar 2016 #28

His numbers dropped 15% from last month fun n serious Mar 2016 #49

against Ms. Inevitable? LiberalElite Mar 2016 #217

I'm not being rude to you so please fun n serious Mar 2016 #255

That hasn't translated into delegates and frankly, it's too little too late liberal N proud Mar 2016 #4

Maybe you missed hilly getting stomped into the ground in UT and ID? Good times. Bubzer Mar 2016 #6

And you have not done the math liberal N proud Mar 2016 #17

Maybe, but even so I feel a lot more genuine supporting Sanders, because he PatrickforO Mar 2016 #24

I think the revolution is already underway. nt Duval Mar 2016 #72

This genie can't be put back into the bottle. n/t libdem4life Mar 2016 #137

Go Bernie! Rebkeh Mar 2016 #7

Heck yeah! Bubzer Mar 2016 #8

Hmm. Since many Sanders supporters are 'under the radar' of these polls, especially PatrickforO Mar 2016 #9

I've got my write-in pen ready Plucketeer Mar 2016 #10

Here here!!! Bubzer Mar 2016 #11

I will do the same, if it comes to that. sammythecat Mar 2016 #32

Me too DebbieCDC Mar 2016 #132

me too. ready and willing. desmiller Mar 2016 #134

k&r rhett o rick Mar 2016 #13

This isn't even close to the actual headline you linked. sufrommich Mar 2016 #14

Touche'. Posted the wrong title from a related link. Credit where credit is due. Nice catch. Bubzer Mar 2016 #41

. stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #15

It's thoughtful and meaningful contributions like this that boggle the mind. n/t libdem4life Mar 2016 #235

Sanders has been ignored, ridiculed, or smeared deutsey Mar 2016 #18

He was supposed to be dismissed as a grumpy racist by June of LAST YEAR! arcane1 Mar 2016 #52

You forgot "gun humper". n/t libdem4life Mar 2016 #138

that's the whole point--Bernie's message is so powerful TheDormouse Mar 2016 #58

predictwise... artyteacher Mar 2016 #19

Don't care. Still gets my vote. Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #62

That helps explain the flurry of Blue Nation Review propaganda posts... nt revbones Mar 2016 #26

Every minute, more and more are Feel'n the Bern! SoapBox Mar 2016 #29

What no voter suppression in the polling FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #35

Wish she hadn't zentrum Mar 2016 #39

knr snagglepuss Mar 2016 #40

Odd how Hillary has a million more votes. onehandle Mar 2016 #42

More like 2.7 more votes :) lunamagica Mar 2016 #119

Lets see, latest Pennsylvania poll, Hillary 53, Bernie 28. still_one Mar 2016 #59

And people have known Hillary for 25 years zalinda Mar 2016 #66

I don't care for polls period. Just get out and vote, and everything else is moot still_one Mar 2016 #74

I'm a YUUUGE Sanders fan but a sample size of 311 is rather small Roland99 Mar 2016 #60

And Sanders has not dropped out yet? ejbr Mar 2016 #61

She leads by 18 points of all votes cast so far. Dawson Leery Mar 2016 #63

Thanks for giving us president trump, Hillary acolyte. Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #65

And here I thought the contest would be over by Super Tuesday. What happened? thereismore Mar 2016 #112

Sanders can win! paulthompson Mar 2016 #64

I'm only certain of one thing this election season. Beacool Mar 2016 #67

funny thing, if u read the associated questions ... TheDormouse Mar 2016 #68

Looks like more of a Head vs. Heart poll. And, strangely, that's the libdem4life Mar 2016 #139

an interpretation is that presidents usually don't fight for the middle-class or TheDormouse Mar 2016 #152

That's incredibly cynical. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #205

I sure don't noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #179

Mine, too. n/t libdem4life Mar 2016 #180

A funny thing happened LiberalElite Mar 2016 #75

So nationally he is ahead. It figures. I suspected it was voter suppression all along Zira Mar 2016 #77

SC turnout was 12%. That vote should not even count. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #116

WTF? Metric System Mar 2016 #160

See? Those votes do not count bravenak Mar 2016 #165

Unreal but unsurprising. Metric System Mar 2016 #168

Check with a fork cosmicone Mar 2016 #89

I don't think the polls are even. Not in any other one I've seen yet this one is even bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #92

LOLOLOLOL Loki Mar 2016 #98

Only ~ 300 Democrats were included in this poll, spooky3 Mar 2016 #128

While this is interesting and encouraging if your're on the left, its meaningless. apnu Mar 2016 #131

So true.... AuntPatsy Mar 2016 #133

agreed rtracey Mar 2016 #143

well rtracey Mar 2016 #141

K&R for visibility Babel_17 Mar 2016 #142

Independents Favor Sanders billhicks76 Mar 2016 #145

It's always been a race against time. Ash_F Mar 2016 #184

That's because we don't trust her. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #198

Ding ding ding!!! Bubzer Mar 2016 #218

That's quite a improvent from only 4% a month or so ago. nt ladjf Mar 2016 #203

And, with a media black out on him Zira Mar 2016 #211

this is more for the rest ahem 50 % of the country that hasn't voted yet.. PatrynXX Mar 2016 #213

The California primary had been in June for at least 40 plus years dlwickham Mar 2016 #214

okay whatever PatrynXX Mar 2016 #249

Evenly split, when you consider full court effort to eliminate Sander's on MSM, and election fraud.. MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #216

Let's be honest... c-ville rook Mar 2016 #224

That's a pretty wide margin of error.... blackspade Mar 2016 #227

Here are the numbers that matter, from the polls that matter - VOTES: George II Mar 2016 #228

the last rtracey Mar 2016 #232

Plus, Clinton has ZERO support outside the Democratic Party NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #234

wise people are waking up and 3rdwayers are being outed as the rightwing-lite stupidicus Mar 2016 #244

Interesting numbers considering a year ago Bernie wasn't even on the radar screen. jalan48 Mar 2016 #246

Never another Clinton Madmiddle Mar 2016 #248