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124. She has modified her positions

Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:09 AM

Mar 2016

It is her way of giving in to some of hus positions. But she is not him and should not be forced to wear his mantle, no matter how many years he has been in government.

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Bernie Sanders Lays Out His Requirements For Endorsing Hillary Clinton [View all] man of few w Mar 2016 OP

"making sure the party embraces his anti-establishment platform" LiberalElite Mar 2016 #1

Queen? man of few w Mar 2016 #3

It does look dynastic. n/t Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #4

And many half-wits said Obama looked like the Messiah. Six of one, half a dozen of the other. LanternWaste Mar 2016 #76

Third Way Democrats prevent genocide! Baobab Mar 2016 #161

Well, that renowned humanitarian Henry Kissinger DID refer to the poor as 'useless eaters.' PatrickforO Mar 2016 #229

Sure. revbones Mar 2016 #220

I'll give the republicans that at least they rejected royal family Bush. hollowdweller Mar 2016 #216

yeah, she was coronated a long time ago. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #12

Neoliberal . RATM435 Mar 2016 #20

If the tiara fits... mac56 Mar 2016 #97

They can't seem to accept reality. Beacool Mar 2016 #274

Don't kid yourself leftynyc Mar 2016 #21

of course you are nt Pat Riots Mar 2016 #102

Hello newbie leftynyc Mar 2016 #132

Really? The newbie thing? revbones Mar 2016 #258

I don't think he will. Igel Mar 2016 #235

I think he will leftynyc Mar 2016 #236

I am AMAZED this post was not locked for a hurtful comment! Chasstev365 Mar 2016 #28

Stop the partisan bicker, please. This is the primary and no violations have been posted here yet. marble falls Mar 2016 #68

Hurt whom? pangaia Mar 2016 #162

The comments are about the candidate not the poster. jwirr Mar 2016 #202

Much as 'Messiah' was in regards to Obama when used by the GOP LanternWaste Mar 2016 #75

No: Sanders shouldn't be allowed to bash the Dem party: If he does: lewebley3 Mar 2016 #238

No "Queen", buddy. Beacool Mar 2016 #273

Pretty outrageous for him to be making demands bravenak Mar 2016 #2

well, bravenak greymouse Mar 2016 #5

I do not CARE who they vote for bravenak Mar 2016 #7

It's called coalition building shawn703 Mar 2016 #22

No bravenak Mar 2016 #29

Yes shawn703 Mar 2016 #35

We do not respond to threats of witholding with bravenak Mar 2016 #41

You're not making the decision shawn703 Mar 2016 #48

The establishment is. And they are less likely than I to even entertain the idea. bravenak Mar 2016 #50

It's just politics shawn703 Mar 2016 #55

Giving in to him would set a bad precedent and anger many of us democrats who have been here bravenak Mar 2016 #60

Politics is full of compromises shawn703 Mar 2016 #61

As you will get used to the fact that the losing party gets no power over policy or direction bravenak Mar 2016 #63

Said the Republican establishment to the Tea Party shawn703 Mar 2016 #72

But his movement does not have any seats bravenak Mar 2016 #78

This whole sub-thread appears to be you saying that the establishment party should not Bohunk68 Mar 2016 #96

I am saying that the losing party does not get to make a list of demands and get them met bravenak Mar 2016 #99

I fully understand that. BUT, that is not how politics works. Bohunk68 Mar 2016 #128

She is compromising bravenak Mar 2016 #133

That is not what I am hearing from him. I know full well what the Rethuglicans have in store. Bohunk68 Mar 2016 #163

She is compromised. TryLogic Mar 2016 #239

Who's this "we" sammythecat Mar 2016 #147

^ THIS ^ mac56 Mar 2016 #101

It has always been this way except for the last few elections zalinda Mar 2016 #90

But, the nonwinner does not get to have a list of demands met bravenak Mar 2016 #92

No, it really isn't zalinda Mar 2016 #110

Not really bravenak Mar 2016 #114

re: "the losing party gets no power over policy or direction" - not true. See Jesse Jackson. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #136

How long was his list and how much of it did he get? bravenak Mar 2016 #138

I don't know, and he surely did not get everything. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #148

Not talking homegirl Mar 2016 #157

If we want them incorporated they will be bravenak Mar 2016 #285

When your winner, homegirl Mar 2016 #286

Same could happen to yours bravenak Mar 2016 #291

Which means Bernie is willing to compromise on some of his demands, correct? hack89 Mar 2016 #117

Aren't you in the south? fbc Mar 2016 #113

Where I live is private bravenak Mar 2016 #118

I've voted for nothing but democrats my entire voting... Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #143

I never said any of that bravenak Mar 2016 #145

It's your attitude and the attitude of your fellow... Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #150

Ok bravenak Mar 2016 #152

look at all of those newbies swarming/attacking Bravenak Sheepshank Mar 2016 #188

Newbies? I've been here since 2004... Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #194

first....who are you that I should care? Sheepshank Mar 2016 #198

And oh my goodness... Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #196

Swarming and attacking!!1 frylock Mar 2016 #219

I think you might have it just right bravenak Mar 2016 #288

oh so not true rtracey Mar 2016 #164

yeah, bravenak is doing a good job of alienating Bernie supporters greymouse Mar 2016 #179

This Southern Democrat is very tired mcar Mar 2016 #245

Sorry if being logical is also being dismissive. fbc Mar 2016 #271

You can't have it all your way cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #177

Well said. nt Duval Mar 2016 #246

yes, the party has been workig wonders timmymoff Mar 2016 #252

I think you need to... Nacho-_-Bandito Mar 2016 #182

How do people of color, women and LGBT's-- okasha Mar 2016 #250

For many HRC is the other side Wibly Mar 2016 #251

Neo-Liberals are just as much my enemy as the fascist fucks in the GOP. Odin2005 Mar 2016 #294

So? bravenak Mar 2016 #295

The Democrats will have a working majority once Clinton and a number of new congressional candidates George II Mar 2016 #234

But ejbr Mar 2016 #24

And they can get rejected bravenak Mar 2016 #26

Of course ejbr Mar 2016 #104

And if they get rejected, so does she. Bubzer Mar 2016 #180

Thank You! The nerve of some people. Laser102 Mar 2016 #43

A loser with 10% doesn't get to add much, but a candidate with 45%+ support should have some input.. marble falls Mar 2016 #71

But that list of demands will get him nothing bravenak Mar 2016 #81

I don't see it as "demands" as I see it as "conditions" .... marble falls Mar 2016 #87

He does not want to join bravenak Mar 2016 #95

After forty or so years in elected office??? He'll join. He knows how to play well with others on... marble falls Mar 2016 #119

She has modified her positions bravenak Mar 2016 #124

Absolutely, she has changed some huge positions, thats why I have no problem voting for her.... marble falls Mar 2016 #131

I dig it bravenak Mar 2016 #134

We're going to make it through the primaries and no matter who wins: we win and the Tea/GOP loses. marble falls Mar 2016 #181

Change Happens gussmith Mar 2016 #213

The fact that Hillary has had to "modify" her positions TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #205

I just watched the 2 min video and read the article noamnety Mar 2016 #121

He is not even very specific bravenak Mar 2016 #126

The article was very specific and gave a list noamnety Mar 2016 #130

I did bravenak Mar 2016 #137

We all have conditions for voting for people. noamnety Mar 2016 #155

Hillary is not entitled to anyones vote nt JPnoodleman Mar 2016 #277

And bernie is not entitled to having his demands met. bravenak Mar 2016 #279

Then at odds we shall remain. n/t JPnoodleman Mar 2016 #281

Oh well bravenak Mar 2016 #282

Why don't they see that? marions ghost Mar 2016 #123

Sounds like the puma's from 2008. GoneOffShore Mar 2016 #135

It does bravenak Mar 2016 #139

And if Bernie manages to get the nom, which I seriously hope he does, we will be seeing them again. GoneOffShore Mar 2016 #185

LOL... all evidence to the contrary. Bubzer Mar 2016 #144

Okay. I have to leave this thread bravenak Mar 2016 #146

Thank you! n/t Herman4747 Mar 2016 #159

That's unfortunate. Bubzer Mar 2016 #183

And that's how you lose. MisterFred Mar 2016 #208

hear, hear, greymouse... I agree with you one hundred percent! secondwind Mar 2016 #58

You should stay home too then, we don't need you. Darb Mar 2016 #105

Most Arrogant Post Award Winner. Darb Mar 2016 #100

Just fyi: telling Democrats NOT to vote doesn't set well with most DUers here... FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #165

In case you weren't reading clearly, I replied to the poster's threat not to vote. Darb Mar 2016 #270

I don't care either. Why should we give a fuck? We only control ourselves. bravenak Mar 2016 #280

I cannot even count the number of posts that I have read today Darb Mar 2016 #287

I could not have said it better myself bravenak Mar 2016 #289

Well said Greymouse.... Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #298

Longstanding party members have permitted the current state of affairs. n/t Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #8

Then I guess it is time for me and my generation to take the lead.nt bravenak Mar 2016 #9

With a return to a 1990s oval office cprise Mar 2016 #14

Ok bravenak Mar 2016 #19

Lead to where? Martin Eden Mar 2016 #16

The future? bravenak Mar 2016 #17

Who said anything about the events of the past being your fault? Martin Eden Mar 2016 #25

I will vote for her on Saturday bravenak Mar 2016 #38

I don't care a whit about "punishing" Hillary for her record. Martin Eden Mar 2016 #51

And I believe them. bravenak Mar 2016 #53

You believe in what you can't see or hear, rather than in what you can Martin Eden Mar 2016 #82

Show me a movement on the internet in the past on the left that have so many articles bravenak Mar 2016 #89

Having to win the early southern states with their large Akamai Mar 2016 #88

I would not mind if everybody voted the same exact day bravenak Mar 2016 #91

I think that would solve a lot of problems. potone Mar 2016 #212

So now people of color, women and LGBT's okasha Mar 2016 #257

Bernie is not a racist. Punkingal Mar 2016 #127

I never IMPLIED IT bravenak Mar 2016 #129

Actually you said it outright, but not in this thread. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #214

My sigline bravenak Mar 2016 #260

My first vote for for L.B.J. --- You want to know why Benie should remake the party? Hoppy Mar 2016 #27

Why would you think that the rank and file want exactly what you want? bravenak Mar 2016 #40

The number of Democrats is in steep decline. Loudestlib Mar 2016 #125

Yeah, it's pretty outragous for the minority candidate to be making demands RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #56

We will have enough to win bravenak Mar 2016 #64

Sounds vaguely familiar. mac56 Mar 2016 #112

Not if you don't get RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #186

Fresh Eyes. mwooldri Mar 2016 #65

His campaign has not done the job to be considered good managers bravenak Mar 2016 #66

Outrageous? hellofromreddit Mar 2016 #70

And our voices matter too bravenak Mar 2016 #73

What a CROCK! Do you not realize the party *is* the problem right now???? Roland99 Mar 2016 #107

The party is not the enemy. Republicans are. bravenak Mar 2016 #109

Sounds like you want to be "more equal." hellofromreddit Mar 2016 #242

I have been a Democrat aintitfunny Mar 2016 #74

Life was not great for my group under any of those leaders bravenak Mar 2016 #108

"way behind"? not quite Roland99 Mar 2016 #79

Obama and Hillary were much closer in delegates bravenak Mar 2016 #98

More smears. Hillary was one of the most liberal Senators in Congress redstateblues Mar 2016 #156

Yeah, because "true" liberals oppose same-sex marriage, support horrid free-trade agreements, Roland99 Mar 2016 #173

Yeah, lord forbid a nominee have requirements to endorsing somone else... Bubzer Mar 2016 #141

Do you want his supporters to stay home or to get on board? Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #158

Many of Sanders' proposals are poison for down ballot candidates Gothmog Mar 2016 #160

Absolutely bravenak Mar 2016 #171

Sanders is trying to SAVE the Democratic party. tabasco Mar 2016 #170

I have to agree with you, it is outrageous to make demands of Hillary A Simple Game Mar 2016 #176

Agreed. DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #192

I agree with that too bravenak Mar 2016 #259

This message was self-deleted by its author femmedem Mar 2016 #222

He didn't "become" a Democrat. He re-upped in VT for next election as a "I" KittyWampus Mar 2016 #243

Yep bravenak Mar 2016 #263

I thought you left Scootaloo Mar 2016 #255

...because he represents what most of us want and DLCers changed our party to what we DON'T want yurbud Mar 2016 #283

No he does NOT bravenak Mar 2016 #284

it ain't over yet yurbud Mar 2016 #299

TIS!! Stop saying that! 'Tis over I say!! bravenak Mar 2016 #300

Correct! leftofcool Mar 2016 #296

Seriously bravenak Mar 2016 #297

"the party embraces his anti-establishment platform" left-of-center2012 Mar 2016 #6

Heh. Google might serve Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #15

Never happen. Shadowflash Mar 2016 #10

Well that's not gonna happen eom EdwardBernays Mar 2016 #11

New LBN Threads! New LBN Threads! Quick! Anything! GET IT OFF THE FRONT PAGE! man of few w Mar 2016 #13

2016 = 2007 cprise Mar 2016 #18

It's odd that someone who ran in a Democratic primary TexasTowelie Mar 2016 #23

The DNC, IMO, would pretty much beg Bernie to endorse Hillary, in the hopes that all of his djean111 Mar 2016 #32

Some people will just not vote... Thespian2 Mar 2016 #57

Were does that leave you in the mix? Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #168

Voting for Dr. Jill Stein Thespian2 Mar 2016 #210

Is your vote your own? Martin Eden Mar 2016 #37

Well said. pangaia Mar 2016 #166

Thanks ... Martin Eden Mar 2016 #191

Some good points, but Sanders leads Clinton by 36% among Independents. debunction.junction Mar 2016 #69

Nice try. TexasTowelie Mar 2016 #167

Thanks for your response. debunction.junction Mar 2016 #184

I think that we will have to disagree as to the positioning of independents, TexasTowelie Mar 2016 #197

Fair enough. debunction.junction Mar 2016 #204

Because that's how you build a coalition. blackspade Mar 2016 #103

re: "Why does Bernie believe that he can impose his will..." etc. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #153

I agree that a strong runner up can achieve some influence. TexasTowelie Mar 2016 #224

I don't think these are all ultimatums. It would be the starting point of a negotiation. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #226

I never knew he was so arrogant. madaboutharry Mar 2016 #30

He was welcomed as a Democrat by the DNC so that he would not run as an Independent. djean111 Mar 2016 #33

The Sanders movement has the standing of the millions of votes we have so far won Ken Burch Mar 2016 #39

Thank YOU! bravenak Mar 2016 #44

I suspected as much. NurseJackie Mar 2016 #45

there are actually many reports drray23 Mar 2016 #77

Post a link to those comments by his colleagues. Punkingal Mar 2016 #140

Here is one such article drray23 Mar 2016 #227

Typical behavior of an idealogue BuddhaGirl Mar 2016 #240

Here is the problem for the Democratic Party. debunction.junction Mar 2016 #93

re: "Sanders has no standing to demand anything" thesquanderer Mar 2016 #151

He's not demanding anything. He's explaining what it would take to Eric J in MN Mar 2016 #203

Thanks!! nt Duval Mar 2016 #247

Hopefully whichever candidate wins will get the support of all other Democratic candidates Democat Mar 2016 #31

Nothing he asks there is a bad thing. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #34

He is never going to endorse Hillary liberal N proud Mar 2016 #36

Sanders is arrogant and has a very destructive personality. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #42

How about we all get arrogant about this sort of thing? seabeckind Mar 2016 #52

Meh... Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #175

Arrogant again? snort Mar 2016 #237

So you look at what we have and you say "this is the best we can hope for"? Scootaloo Mar 2016 #256

For those who care more about personality than principles. seabeckind Mar 2016 #46

The People want those things. The Third Way better get OUT OF THE WAY! yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #85

Thank you for shining a spotlight on the real issue here. Maedhros Mar 2016 #276

Concession warning. onehandle Mar 2016 #47

After he Endorsing Hillary Clinton. stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #49

Some big tent you have there. alarimer Mar 2016 #86

Be careful what you wish for. mac56 Mar 2016 #122

To make room for one of Hillary's good buddies, no doubt Herman4747 Mar 2016 #149

A whole lot of people ARE doing that. frylock Mar 2016 #225

When has any loser been afforded the ability to dictate the terms of their surrender? Loki Mar 2016 #54

This guy is offering requirements to receive his endorsement ? Trust Buster Mar 2016 #62

Simply Untrue ProfessorGAC Mar 2016 #67

re: "When has any loser been afforded..." etc. - see Jesse Jackson thesquanderer Mar 2016 #142

2008 Hillary Clinton. Vinca Mar 2016 #267

Oh you mean this? Loki Mar 2016 #269

That was the deal. Nice parting gift. Vinca Mar 2016 #293

The interview was very good. blackspade Mar 2016 #59

Thats our guy. Always... zentrum Mar 2016 #80

watching a temper tantrum wilt the stilt Mar 2016 #83

Sanders calmly answered tht question of what it would take for his supporters to support Clinton. NT Eric J in MN Mar 2016 #195

Sounds reasonable enough, if she wants the votes. alarimer Mar 2016 #84

Looks like she is willing to do nothing to earn those votes yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #106

This isn't LBN & it's GDPee Kittycat Mar 2016 #94

HP listed it as a news story man of few w Mar 2016 #303

"badly trails"? What a load of crap Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #111

Bernie treats the Democratic Party like it's his mail order bride. LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #115

Sanders said the Democratic Party should be a 'party of the people.' NT Eric J in MN Mar 2016 #201

And it is. ARRA, ACA, Lilly Ledbetter, LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #249

So he admits he can't win, and only hopes to influence the party platform. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #116

Sanders answered a question about if he doesn't win the nomination. NT Eric J in MN Mar 2016 #206

He knows the end is in sight. He is looking for a graceful way out. nt hack89 Mar 2016 #120

Its good he has finally come to realization he cant win this. DCBob Mar 2016 #154

Sanders said that he's going to fight until the last vote. Eric J in MN Mar 2016 #193

Since when do losers get to dictate terms? stopbush Mar 2016 #169

I'm surprised he didn't demand that she and the DNC rid themselves of DWS. Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #172

Debbie DINO is a symptom, not a cause. djean111 Mar 2016 #209

Symptoms can lead to more catastrophic things if not dealt with. Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #230

And his rhetoric continues... pandr32 Mar 2016 #174

Sounds like a good start. MuseRider Mar 2016 #178

This campaign has made me understand I'm NOT a Clinton Democrat, maybe not a Democrat at all Dems to Win Mar 2016 #187

This article misrepresents the question. Eric J in MN Mar 2016 #189

With all due respect to HuffPost, these are not requirements, this is a wish list beastie boy Mar 2016 #190

Why is this in LBN? it belongs in GDP.or Bernie group misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #199

Although Uponthegears Mar 2016 #200

clearly the polarized argument here is what the Democratic Party as a whole has to deal with cloudythescribbler Mar 2016 #207

The best part about this is that Bernie was on TYT. Gregorian Mar 2016 #211

Two points: Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2016 #215

15 an hour min wage would be huge hollowdweller Mar 2016 #217

u think bern Cryptoad Mar 2016 #221

Those "grunts" dedicated their time working for Bernie, while desmiller Mar 2016 #278

Bern appreciates it Cryptoad Mar 2016 #304

well, given how much her and her supporters hate single payer, etc stupidicus Mar 2016 #218

I have lost all respect for Bernie Sanders. iandhr Mar 2016 #223

I am wondering what he is going to do after the general when he goes back to being a Senator. upaloopa Mar 2016 #232

He could well be a Senator without any Committee Chairs if he doesn't stump for the winner. KittyWampus Mar 2016 #244

Sure. You can bet Hillary will co-opt most if not all of Bernie's proposals. forest444 Mar 2016 #228

Would she even need his endorsement? Chakaconcarne Mar 2016 #231

Intriguing point. forest444 Mar 2016 #233

She won't. Beacool Mar 2016 #275

VPs don't really do much. That would be a waste of his talent and wouldn't guarantee that liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #302

Counter offer at link LannyDeVaney Mar 2016 #241

Sanders does not badly trail Wibly Mar 2016 #248

Let's see. okasha Mar 2016 #264

No tie Wibly Mar 2016 #306

Apparently I should have added this: okasha Mar 2016 #307

Mrs. Clinton has to do what I say if she wants my endorsement - Bernie Sanders MadamX2016 Mar 2016 #253

I called this last week. Scootaloo Mar 2016 #254

Hillary thinks we OWE her our vote. I subscribe to the radical idea that my vote must be EARNED. arcane1 Mar 2016 #262

Me too. This isn't a f*cking Monarchy Lorien Mar 2016 #266

Very similar to my requirements for voting for her n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #261

If she 'Wins" through obvious election fraud and theft Lorien Mar 2016 #265

For this thread Gothmog Mar 2016 #268

That's because in 2008 both candidates were Democrats. Beacool Mar 2016 #272

Hillary is too bought out for this. He won't be endorsing. Zira Mar 2016 #290

Horrible! Seeking to "revitalize the Democratic Party" pat_k Mar 2016 #292

He's two-faced RandySF Mar 2016 #301

This post is incredibly disruptive....nt blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #305