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169. Since when do losers get to dictate terms?

Reply to man of few w (Original post)

Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:44 AM

Mar 2016

And Sanders is a LOSER.

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Bernie Sanders Lays Out His Requirements For Endorsing Hillary Clinton [View all] man of few w Mar 2016 OP

"making sure the party embraces his anti-establishment platform" LiberalElite Mar 2016 #1

Queen? man of few w Mar 2016 #3

It does look dynastic. n/t Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #4

And many half-wits said Obama looked like the Messiah. Six of one, half a dozen of the other. LanternWaste Mar 2016 #76

Third Way Democrats prevent genocide! Baobab Mar 2016 #161

Well, that renowned humanitarian Henry Kissinger DID refer to the poor as 'useless eaters.' PatrickforO Mar 2016 #229

Sure. revbones Mar 2016 #220

I'll give the republicans that at least they rejected royal family Bush. hollowdweller Mar 2016 #216

yeah, she was coronated a long time ago. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #12

Neoliberal . RATM435 Mar 2016 #20

If the tiara fits... mac56 Mar 2016 #97

They can't seem to accept reality. Beacool Mar 2016 #274

Don't kid yourself leftynyc Mar 2016 #21

of course you are nt Pat Riots Mar 2016 #102

Hello newbie leftynyc Mar 2016 #132

Really? The newbie thing? revbones Mar 2016 #258

I don't think he will. Igel Mar 2016 #235

I think he will leftynyc Mar 2016 #236

I am AMAZED this post was not locked for a hurtful comment! Chasstev365 Mar 2016 #28

Stop the partisan bicker, please. This is the primary and no violations have been posted here yet. marble falls Mar 2016 #68

Hurt whom? pangaia Mar 2016 #162

The comments are about the candidate not the poster. jwirr Mar 2016 #202

Much as 'Messiah' was in regards to Obama when used by the GOP LanternWaste Mar 2016 #75

No: Sanders shouldn't be allowed to bash the Dem party: If he does: lewebley3 Mar 2016 #238

No "Queen", buddy. Beacool Mar 2016 #273

Pretty outrageous for him to be making demands bravenak Mar 2016 #2

well, bravenak greymouse Mar 2016 #5

I do not CARE who they vote for bravenak Mar 2016 #7

It's called coalition building shawn703 Mar 2016 #22

No bravenak Mar 2016 #29

Yes shawn703 Mar 2016 #35

We do not respond to threats of witholding with bravenak Mar 2016 #41

You're not making the decision shawn703 Mar 2016 #48

The establishment is. And they are less likely than I to even entertain the idea. bravenak Mar 2016 #50

It's just politics shawn703 Mar 2016 #55

Giving in to him would set a bad precedent and anger many of us democrats who have been here bravenak Mar 2016 #60

Politics is full of compromises shawn703 Mar 2016 #61

As you will get used to the fact that the losing party gets no power over policy or direction bravenak Mar 2016 #63

Said the Republican establishment to the Tea Party shawn703 Mar 2016 #72

But his movement does not have any seats bravenak Mar 2016 #78

This whole sub-thread appears to be you saying that the establishment party should not Bohunk68 Mar 2016 #96

I am saying that the losing party does not get to make a list of demands and get them met bravenak Mar 2016 #99

I fully understand that. BUT, that is not how politics works. Bohunk68 Mar 2016 #128

She is compromising bravenak Mar 2016 #133

That is not what I am hearing from him. I know full well what the Rethuglicans have in store. Bohunk68 Mar 2016 #163

She is compromised. TryLogic Mar 2016 #239

Who's this "we" sammythecat Mar 2016 #147

^ THIS ^ mac56 Mar 2016 #101

It has always been this way except for the last few elections zalinda Mar 2016 #90

But, the nonwinner does not get to have a list of demands met bravenak Mar 2016 #92

No, it really isn't zalinda Mar 2016 #110

Not really bravenak Mar 2016 #114

re: "the losing party gets no power over policy or direction" - not true. See Jesse Jackson. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #136

How long was his list and how much of it did he get? bravenak Mar 2016 #138

I don't know, and he surely did not get everything. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #148

Not talking homegirl Mar 2016 #157

If we want them incorporated they will be bravenak Mar 2016 #285

When your winner, homegirl Mar 2016 #286

Same could happen to yours bravenak Mar 2016 #291

Which means Bernie is willing to compromise on some of his demands, correct? hack89 Mar 2016 #117

Aren't you in the south? fbc Mar 2016 #113

Where I live is private bravenak Mar 2016 #118

I've voted for nothing but democrats my entire voting... Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #143

I never said any of that bravenak Mar 2016 #145

It's your attitude and the attitude of your fellow... Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #150

Ok bravenak Mar 2016 #152

look at all of those newbies swarming/attacking Bravenak Sheepshank Mar 2016 #188

Newbies? I've been here since 2004... Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #194

first....who are you that I should care? Sheepshank Mar 2016 #198

And oh my goodness... Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #196

Swarming and attacking!!1 frylock Mar 2016 #219

I think you might have it just right bravenak Mar 2016 #288

oh so not true rtracey Mar 2016 #164

yeah, bravenak is doing a good job of alienating Bernie supporters greymouse Mar 2016 #179

This Southern Democrat is very tired mcar Mar 2016 #245

Sorry if being logical is also being dismissive. fbc Mar 2016 #271

You can't have it all your way cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #177

Well said. nt Duval Mar 2016 #246

yes, the party has been workig wonders timmymoff Mar 2016 #252

I think you need to... Nacho-_-Bandito Mar 2016 #182

How do people of color, women and LGBT's-- okasha Mar 2016 #250

For many HRC is the other side Wibly Mar 2016 #251

Neo-Liberals are just as much my enemy as the fascist fucks in the GOP. Odin2005 Mar 2016 #294

So? bravenak Mar 2016 #295

The Democrats will have a working majority once Clinton and a number of new congressional candidates George II Mar 2016 #234

But ejbr Mar 2016 #24

And they can get rejected bravenak Mar 2016 #26

Of course ejbr Mar 2016 #104

And if they get rejected, so does she. Bubzer Mar 2016 #180

Thank You! The nerve of some people. Laser102 Mar 2016 #43

A loser with 10% doesn't get to add much, but a candidate with 45%+ support should have some input.. marble falls Mar 2016 #71

But that list of demands will get him nothing bravenak Mar 2016 #81

I don't see it as "demands" as I see it as "conditions" .... marble falls Mar 2016 #87

He does not want to join bravenak Mar 2016 #95

After forty or so years in elected office??? He'll join. He knows how to play well with others on... marble falls Mar 2016 #119

She has modified her positions bravenak Mar 2016 #124

Absolutely, she has changed some huge positions, thats why I have no problem voting for her.... marble falls Mar 2016 #131

I dig it bravenak Mar 2016 #134

We're going to make it through the primaries and no matter who wins: we win and the Tea/GOP loses. marble falls Mar 2016 #181

Change Happens gussmith Mar 2016 #213

The fact that Hillary has had to "modify" her positions TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #205

I just watched the 2 min video and read the article noamnety Mar 2016 #121

He is not even very specific bravenak Mar 2016 #126

The article was very specific and gave a list noamnety Mar 2016 #130

I did bravenak Mar 2016 #137

We all have conditions for voting for people. noamnety Mar 2016 #155

Hillary is not entitled to anyones vote nt JPnoodleman Mar 2016 #277

And bernie is not entitled to having his demands met. bravenak Mar 2016 #279

Then at odds we shall remain. n/t JPnoodleman Mar 2016 #281

Oh well bravenak Mar 2016 #282

Why don't they see that? marions ghost Mar 2016 #123

Sounds like the puma's from 2008. GoneOffShore Mar 2016 #135

It does bravenak Mar 2016 #139

And if Bernie manages to get the nom, which I seriously hope he does, we will be seeing them again. GoneOffShore Mar 2016 #185

LOL... all evidence to the contrary. Bubzer Mar 2016 #144

Okay. I have to leave this thread bravenak Mar 2016 #146

Thank you! n/t Herman4747 Mar 2016 #159

That's unfortunate. Bubzer Mar 2016 #183

And that's how you lose. MisterFred Mar 2016 #208

hear, hear, greymouse... I agree with you one hundred percent! secondwind Mar 2016 #58

You should stay home too then, we don't need you. Darb Mar 2016 #105

Most Arrogant Post Award Winner. Darb Mar 2016 #100

Just fyi: telling Democrats NOT to vote doesn't set well with most DUers here... FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #165

In case you weren't reading clearly, I replied to the poster's threat not to vote. Darb Mar 2016 #270

I don't care either. Why should we give a fuck? We only control ourselves. bravenak Mar 2016 #280

I cannot even count the number of posts that I have read today Darb Mar 2016 #287

I could not have said it better myself bravenak Mar 2016 #289

Well said Greymouse.... Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #298

Longstanding party members have permitted the current state of affairs. n/t Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #8

Then I guess it is time for me and my generation to take the lead.nt bravenak Mar 2016 #9

With a return to a 1990s oval office cprise Mar 2016 #14

Ok bravenak Mar 2016 #19

Lead to where? Martin Eden Mar 2016 #16

The future? bravenak Mar 2016 #17

Who said anything about the events of the past being your fault? Martin Eden Mar 2016 #25

I will vote for her on Saturday bravenak Mar 2016 #38

I don't care a whit about "punishing" Hillary for her record. Martin Eden Mar 2016 #51

And I believe them. bravenak Mar 2016 #53

You believe in what you can't see or hear, rather than in what you can Martin Eden Mar 2016 #82

Show me a movement on the internet in the past on the left that have so many articles bravenak Mar 2016 #89

Having to win the early southern states with their large Akamai Mar 2016 #88

I would not mind if everybody voted the same exact day bravenak Mar 2016 #91

I think that would solve a lot of problems. potone Mar 2016 #212

So now people of color, women and LGBT's okasha Mar 2016 #257

Bernie is not a racist. Punkingal Mar 2016 #127

I never IMPLIED IT bravenak Mar 2016 #129

Actually you said it outright, but not in this thread. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #214

My sigline bravenak Mar 2016 #260

My first vote for for L.B.J. --- You want to know why Benie should remake the party? Hoppy Mar 2016 #27

Why would you think that the rank and file want exactly what you want? bravenak Mar 2016 #40

The number of Democrats is in steep decline. Loudestlib Mar 2016 #125

Yeah, it's pretty outragous for the minority candidate to be making demands RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #56

We will have enough to win bravenak Mar 2016 #64

Sounds vaguely familiar. mac56 Mar 2016 #112

Not if you don't get RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #186

Fresh Eyes. mwooldri Mar 2016 #65

His campaign has not done the job to be considered good managers bravenak Mar 2016 #66

Outrageous? hellofromreddit Mar 2016 #70

And our voices matter too bravenak Mar 2016 #73

What a CROCK! Do you not realize the party *is* the problem right now???? Roland99 Mar 2016 #107

The party is not the enemy. Republicans are. bravenak Mar 2016 #109

Sounds like you want to be "more equal." hellofromreddit Mar 2016 #242

I have been a Democrat aintitfunny Mar 2016 #74

Life was not great for my group under any of those leaders bravenak Mar 2016 #108

"way behind"? not quite Roland99 Mar 2016 #79

Obama and Hillary were much closer in delegates bravenak Mar 2016 #98

More smears. Hillary was one of the most liberal Senators in Congress redstateblues Mar 2016 #156

Yeah, because "true" liberals oppose same-sex marriage, support horrid free-trade agreements, Roland99 Mar 2016 #173

Yeah, lord forbid a nominee have requirements to endorsing somone else... Bubzer Mar 2016 #141

Do you want his supporters to stay home or to get on board? Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #158

Many of Sanders' proposals are poison for down ballot candidates Gothmog Mar 2016 #160

Absolutely bravenak Mar 2016 #171

Sanders is trying to SAVE the Democratic party. tabasco Mar 2016 #170

I have to agree with you, it is outrageous to make demands of Hillary A Simple Game Mar 2016 #176

Agreed. DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #192

I agree with that too bravenak Mar 2016 #259

This message was self-deleted by its author femmedem Mar 2016 #222

He didn't "become" a Democrat. He re-upped in VT for next election as a "I" KittyWampus Mar 2016 #243

Yep bravenak Mar 2016 #263

I thought you left Scootaloo Mar 2016 #255

...because he represents what most of us want and DLCers changed our party to what we DON'T want yurbud Mar 2016 #283

No he does NOT bravenak Mar 2016 #284

it ain't over yet yurbud Mar 2016 #299

TIS!! Stop saying that! 'Tis over I say!! bravenak Mar 2016 #300

Correct! leftofcool Mar 2016 #296

Seriously bravenak Mar 2016 #297

"the party embraces his anti-establishment platform" left-of-center2012 Mar 2016 #6

Heh. Google might serve Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #15

Never happen. Shadowflash Mar 2016 #10

Well that's not gonna happen eom EdwardBernays Mar 2016 #11

New LBN Threads! New LBN Threads! Quick! Anything! GET IT OFF THE FRONT PAGE! man of few w Mar 2016 #13

2016 = 2007 cprise Mar 2016 #18

It's odd that someone who ran in a Democratic primary TexasTowelie Mar 2016 #23

The DNC, IMO, would pretty much beg Bernie to endorse Hillary, in the hopes that all of his djean111 Mar 2016 #32

Some people will just not vote... Thespian2 Mar 2016 #57

Were does that leave you in the mix? Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #168

Voting for Dr. Jill Stein Thespian2 Mar 2016 #210

Is your vote your own? Martin Eden Mar 2016 #37

Well said. pangaia Mar 2016 #166

Thanks ... Martin Eden Mar 2016 #191

Some good points, but Sanders leads Clinton by 36% among Independents. debunction.junction Mar 2016 #69

Nice try. TexasTowelie Mar 2016 #167

Thanks for your response. debunction.junction Mar 2016 #184

I think that we will have to disagree as to the positioning of independents, TexasTowelie Mar 2016 #197

Fair enough. debunction.junction Mar 2016 #204

Because that's how you build a coalition. blackspade Mar 2016 #103

re: "Why does Bernie believe that he can impose his will..." etc. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #153

I agree that a strong runner up can achieve some influence. TexasTowelie Mar 2016 #224

I don't think these are all ultimatums. It would be the starting point of a negotiation. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #226

I never knew he was so arrogant. madaboutharry Mar 2016 #30

He was welcomed as a Democrat by the DNC so that he would not run as an Independent. djean111 Mar 2016 #33

The Sanders movement has the standing of the millions of votes we have so far won Ken Burch Mar 2016 #39

Thank YOU! bravenak Mar 2016 #44

I suspected as much. NurseJackie Mar 2016 #45

there are actually many reports drray23 Mar 2016 #77

Post a link to those comments by his colleagues. Punkingal Mar 2016 #140

Here is one such article drray23 Mar 2016 #227

Typical behavior of an idealogue BuddhaGirl Mar 2016 #240

Here is the problem for the Democratic Party. debunction.junction Mar 2016 #93

re: "Sanders has no standing to demand anything" thesquanderer Mar 2016 #151

He's not demanding anything. He's explaining what it would take to Eric J in MN Mar 2016 #203

Thanks!! nt Duval Mar 2016 #247

Hopefully whichever candidate wins will get the support of all other Democratic candidates Democat Mar 2016 #31

Nothing he asks there is a bad thing. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #34

He is never going to endorse Hillary liberal N proud Mar 2016 #36

Sanders is arrogant and has a very destructive personality. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #42

How about we all get arrogant about this sort of thing? seabeckind Mar 2016 #52

Meh... Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #175

Arrogant again? snort Mar 2016 #237

So you look at what we have and you say "this is the best we can hope for"? Scootaloo Mar 2016 #256

For those who care more about personality than principles. seabeckind Mar 2016 #46

The People want those things. The Third Way better get OUT OF THE WAY! yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #85

Thank you for shining a spotlight on the real issue here. Maedhros Mar 2016 #276

Concession warning. onehandle Mar 2016 #47

After he Endorsing Hillary Clinton. stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #49

Some big tent you have there. alarimer Mar 2016 #86

Be careful what you wish for. mac56 Mar 2016 #122

To make room for one of Hillary's good buddies, no doubt Herman4747 Mar 2016 #149

A whole lot of people ARE doing that. frylock Mar 2016 #225

When has any loser been afforded the ability to dictate the terms of their surrender? Loki Mar 2016 #54

This guy is offering requirements to receive his endorsement ? Trust Buster Mar 2016 #62

Simply Untrue ProfessorGAC Mar 2016 #67

re: "When has any loser been afforded..." etc. - see Jesse Jackson thesquanderer Mar 2016 #142

2008 Hillary Clinton. Vinca Mar 2016 #267

Oh you mean this? Loki Mar 2016 #269

That was the deal. Nice parting gift. Vinca Mar 2016 #293

The interview was very good. blackspade Mar 2016 #59

Thats our guy. Always... zentrum Mar 2016 #80

watching a temper tantrum wilt the stilt Mar 2016 #83

Sanders calmly answered tht question of what it would take for his supporters to support Clinton. NT Eric J in MN Mar 2016 #195

Sounds reasonable enough, if she wants the votes. alarimer Mar 2016 #84

Looks like she is willing to do nothing to earn those votes yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #106

This isn't LBN & it's GDPee Kittycat Mar 2016 #94

HP listed it as a news story man of few w Mar 2016 #303

"badly trails"? What a load of crap Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #111

Bernie treats the Democratic Party like it's his mail order bride. LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #115

Sanders said the Democratic Party should be a 'party of the people.' NT Eric J in MN Mar 2016 #201

And it is. ARRA, ACA, Lilly Ledbetter, LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #249

So he admits he can't win, and only hopes to influence the party platform. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #116

Sanders answered a question about if he doesn't win the nomination. NT Eric J in MN Mar 2016 #206

He knows the end is in sight. He is looking for a graceful way out. nt hack89 Mar 2016 #120

Its good he has finally come to realization he cant win this. DCBob Mar 2016 #154

Sanders said that he's going to fight until the last vote. Eric J in MN Mar 2016 #193

Since when do losers get to dictate terms? stopbush Mar 2016 #169

I'm surprised he didn't demand that she and the DNC rid themselves of DWS. Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #172

Debbie DINO is a symptom, not a cause. djean111 Mar 2016 #209

Symptoms can lead to more catastrophic things if not dealt with. Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #230

And his rhetoric continues... pandr32 Mar 2016 #174

Sounds like a good start. MuseRider Mar 2016 #178

This campaign has made me understand I'm NOT a Clinton Democrat, maybe not a Democrat at all Dems to Win Mar 2016 #187

This article misrepresents the question. Eric J in MN Mar 2016 #189

With all due respect to HuffPost, these are not requirements, this is a wish list beastie boy Mar 2016 #190

Why is this in LBN? it belongs in GDP.or Bernie group misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #199

Although Uponthegears Mar 2016 #200

clearly the polarized argument here is what the Democratic Party as a whole has to deal with cloudythescribbler Mar 2016 #207

The best part about this is that Bernie was on TYT. Gregorian Mar 2016 #211

Two points: Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2016 #215

15 an hour min wage would be huge hollowdweller Mar 2016 #217

u think bern Cryptoad Mar 2016 #221

Those "grunts" dedicated their time working for Bernie, while desmiller Mar 2016 #278

Bern appreciates it Cryptoad Mar 2016 #304

well, given how much her and her supporters hate single payer, etc stupidicus Mar 2016 #218

I have lost all respect for Bernie Sanders. iandhr Mar 2016 #223

I am wondering what he is going to do after the general when he goes back to being a Senator. upaloopa Mar 2016 #232

He could well be a Senator without any Committee Chairs if he doesn't stump for the winner. KittyWampus Mar 2016 #244

Sure. You can bet Hillary will co-opt most if not all of Bernie's proposals. forest444 Mar 2016 #228

Would she even need his endorsement? Chakaconcarne Mar 2016 #231

Intriguing point. forest444 Mar 2016 #233

She won't. Beacool Mar 2016 #275

VPs don't really do much. That would be a waste of his talent and wouldn't guarantee that liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #302

Counter offer at link LannyDeVaney Mar 2016 #241

Sanders does not badly trail Wibly Mar 2016 #248

Let's see. okasha Mar 2016 #264

No tie Wibly Mar 2016 #306

Apparently I should have added this: okasha Mar 2016 #307

Mrs. Clinton has to do what I say if she wants my endorsement - Bernie Sanders MadamX2016 Mar 2016 #253

I called this last week. Scootaloo Mar 2016 #254

Hillary thinks we OWE her our vote. I subscribe to the radical idea that my vote must be EARNED. arcane1 Mar 2016 #262

Me too. This isn't a f*cking Monarchy Lorien Mar 2016 #266

Very similar to my requirements for voting for her n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #261

If she 'Wins" through obvious election fraud and theft Lorien Mar 2016 #265

For this thread Gothmog Mar 2016 #268

That's because in 2008 both candidates were Democrats. Beacool Mar 2016 #272

Hillary is too bought out for this. He won't be endorsing. Zira Mar 2016 #290

Horrible! Seeking to "revitalize the Democratic Party" pat_k Mar 2016 #292

He's two-faced RandySF Mar 2016 #301

This post is incredibly disruptive....nt blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #305