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In reply to the discussion: BREAKING NEWS: Hawaii Democrats pick Bernie Sanders [View all]PATRICK
(12,326 posts)as a starting point that the Hillary favoring polls the establishment will simply not let go or question(the eternal surprise of the clouded mind) tend to be 20 points off except in states that are subject to heavy pressures from the party establishment at the voting precincts?
That simple logic, which has to be confirmed by facts of course, seems to be handy guide to what the future actually holds. The battleground therefore is any state where the party leadership can put its finger on the scales or the media(ads, townhalls too?) can make Hillary competitive.
I'm sorry. I don't get the confidence of the party that Hillary is still the destined one for the fall and that it will all be rosy then too.
Despite a few lessons learned, more hardcore arm-twisting and having the party organization well in the bag I am beginning to question whether she is actually winning the voters at all anywhere, that what she has is soft, partly an institutional gift or favor, or stealth auto-pilot of name glow, scarily offset by an incredible set of hardcore unfavorable, none of which even have to her fault at this point.
After months of this browbeating and jeering and bragging(hereon DU at least) is this all she really has? I am really concerned in a non-troll like fashion for our chances in the fall if the only real positives in the HRC campaign are what the party can do for her. She seems to have lost the actual voters. Now I know we are obsessed with the gaming of the primary, some of the deliberately exploited brokenness of the gameboard. All I know is I would be much more at ease in an electoral sense with a candidate who can sway a genuine majority than the ever crumbling weakness of the frontrunner powerhouse. This not how a fair democratic process should go. I get the legitimacy of organizations and traditional support showing their muscle, but not when it is becoming more and more isolated from the general party and national electorate to "win" at any cost. Are they crazy? The split as I see it is one side is racing to the bottom and the other to the future, with the vastly critical point of the present election at stake.
Holy moly, what did she do to piss off the Alaskans and Hawaiians? Or is Sanders that superior? Or his message?...