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In reply to the discussion: Stand Your Ground? Texas man kills teacher over noise complaint [View all]OrwellwasRight
(5,317 posts)whatever those are.
Three to fifteen people did not approach a lone man in a hostile manner.
A hostile man approached a party and waited outside to start some shit. When guests arrived HE APPROACHED THEM. That is 100% clear from the video. He approached them, and said he had complained the about the noise and they should turn it down. The party goers basically told him to screw off, and he immediately launches into a tirade about how he has a gun and he will shoot them. Yes, he stated he was "in fear for his life," but not only did he not sound fearful, there was nothing objectively frightening on the video. There was basically some dudes who had been drinking telling him to fuck off. After several minutes of threats and cussing, one of the unarmed men said, I am going to go even up this fight, implying he'd bring his own gun, and in order to prevent the evening of the odds, the aggressor shot three people.
In essence, if there was a terrorist, and I still don't see the connection, it was your dude, who basically took the position that if "my demands aren't met (i.e, if the music doesn't get turned down), I am going to shoot people."
So I still can't see any difference in your position. Your point of view would seem to imply that any lone gun nut can go anywhere, claim to be frightened and outnumbered, and start shooting people. So, for instance, was James Huberty in your scenario "standing his ground" because he was outnumbered and scared?