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jpb33

(141 posts)
91. First,
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:43 PM
Apr 2016

Angry armchair u are letting beastieboy lead u off into discussions they like to have. The best response to the Hillary Cult of Personality is Powell and Rice did use private email account, but they NEVER set up a private unsecured server at their home! Hillary did way worse than Powell and Rice ever did. She even lied to State Dept security, she lied to her boss, the President of the United States!

There is little in common with what Hillary did compared to Rice and Powell.




This is what Rice and Powell had according to Newsweek, which is nothing at all like what Hillary had in her home.

"For classified information, both of them—and their aides with appropriate clearance—had a sensitive compartmented information facility, or what is known in intelligence circles as a SCIF. Most senior officials who deal with classified information have a SCIF in their offices and their homes.

These are not just extra offices with a special lock. Each SCIF is constructed following complex rules imposed by the intelligence and defense communities. Restrictions imposed on the builders are designed to ensure that no unauthorized personnel can get into the room, and the SCIF cannot be accessed by hacking or electronic eavesdropping. A group called the technical surveillance countermeasures team (TSCM) investigates the area or activity to check that all communications are protected from outside surveillance and cannot be intercepted.


Most permanent SCIFs have physical and technical security, called TEMPEST. The facility is guarded and in operation 24 hours a day, seven days a week; any official on the SCIF staff must have the highest security clearance."

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Lawyered up and coordinating stories JackInGreen Apr 2016 #1
Better be Good Lawyer - Collusion has its own penalty FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #2
Never did when I was in JackInGreen Apr 2016 #3
Missile Control systems here - back in the day FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #4
Ding Ding JackInGreen Apr 2016 #5
Her aides and herself always considered themselves as management and as such above LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #8
When Hill told them JackInGreen Apr 2016 #9
Yea, I read that. Just totally clueless. My guess is that they never had security drills or LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #11
I have to wonder JackInGreen Apr 2016 #12
I do not think any do. I was a HRC supporter until all this stuff initially came out. LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #15
At least one of them MADem says they've held clearances riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #69
It is just like most of us during Bill's term overlooking looking everything. LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #72
It's my understanding that her server was CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #78
Fax machines and photo copiers have memory cards. Delmette Apr 2016 #19
EVERYONE should read your post. This is the whole issue 7962 Apr 2016 #22
I think she knows this is just for the media and us peons. She knows this is not a legal strategy, thereismore Apr 2016 #25
It held water for Condie Rice and Colin Powell... beastie boy Apr 2016 #37
Didn't hold water in enlisted persons JackInGreen Apr 2016 #39
First, angrychair Apr 2016 #51
The go to line for HRC is the precedent beastie boy Apr 2016 #56
Again, angrychair Apr 2016 #60
I made no judgement as to the appropriateness of the standards being set beastie boy Apr 2016 #63
Not trying to badger or twist you intention angrychair Apr 2016 #65
You are welcome to pass ethical or moral judgement on the precedent, beastie boy Apr 2016 #68
No angrychair Apr 2016 #93
Plenty of posters on DU use right wing talking points against Clinton - that is far worse, IMO Justice Apr 2016 #81
Justice angrychair Apr 2016 #94
First, jpb33 Apr 2016 #91
Powell and Rice didn't have private servers. Not the same. n/t floppyboo Apr 2016 #53
That's even worse. beastie boy Apr 2016 #57
ya. it's bad. But accountable. Transparent. Hillary is NOT n/t floppyboo Apr 2016 #59
What is accountable or transparent about Powell erasing ALL his emails? beastie boy Apr 2016 #64
they can be recovered. n/t floppyboo Apr 2016 #75
No they cant. And they never were. beastie boy Apr 2016 #77
out of context... HEADLINE NEWS: Powell "That's none of my business" floppyboo Apr 2016 #86
I think you are confused CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #84
Powell was not concerned prosecuting greiner3 Apr 2016 #55
Well, Hillary is not being accused by the right wing of prosecuting beastie boy Apr 2016 #58
There are at least 2 investigations. The Clinton Foundation pay to play riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #71
I was specifically addressing the FBI investigation of Hillary's server beastie boy Apr 2016 #74
But Colin Powell and Condi Rice NEVER had a private email server. CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #82
Neither one of them 2cannan Apr 2016 #89
Neither of them had private servers in their homes, 7962 Apr 2016 #95
"I never sent classified material" is a word game. CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #80
Another on-point statement. And another point HRC supporters ignore. 7962 Apr 2016 #96
This is what is gnawing at me. Yo_Mama Apr 2016 #35
Yeah, it's been rough, hopefully it leads to some changes... daleanime Apr 2016 #49
Ohhhh NO,,, EMAILS,,,,, Oh the horror of it all!,,Drink! Cryptoad Apr 2016 #6
From your name, were you a CT? JackInGreen Apr 2016 #7
Try Compromised National Security Bodych Apr 2016 #42
that just screams CONFLICT! ! ! ! ! to me. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #10
“They must believe prosecutors don’t have that much.” nt antigop Apr 2016 #16
Given how many investigations there have already been of Hillary, I think it's entirely OregonBlue Apr 2016 #40
or that is why they only have 12 full time investigators floppyboo Apr 2016 #54
I have no idea what the FBI has or what they don't have CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #85
To me, it screams sound strategy beastie boy Apr 2016 #41
to me it screams that you have no clue what you are talking about. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #61
You must be hearing loud and very ignorant voices in your head beastie boy Apr 2016 #66
Maybe they are planning to collectively take the fall? Schema Thing Apr 2016 #13
If they do you can bet there is big $$$ waiting for them somewhere. yourout Apr 2016 #29
The Clinton Slush Fund will take care of them, no worries DebbieCDC Apr 2016 #88
Specifies Jake Sullivan authored Top Secret emails, and Heather Samuelson sorted official & private leveymg Apr 2016 #14
but why would the DOJ agree to such an arrangement? Have they "thrown in the towel"? antigop Apr 2016 #17
I doubt that characterization. There are unusual accomodations already made in this case. leveymg Apr 2016 #20
Ummm... she is NOT a suspect beastie boy Apr 2016 #46
the DOJ has no say in who you hire as a lawyer awake Apr 2016 #21
You know there is a legal definition for conspiracy, no? beastie boy Apr 2016 #47
My point was how this may be presented by the other side this fall awake Apr 2016 #67
So you didn't say "If they are not careful they may open themselves up to conspiracy charges."? beastie boy Apr 2016 #70
Individuals have the right to the "counsel of their choice" - if they have the money. Yo_Mama Apr 2016 #36
the article also begs the question: "Who is paying the legal fees for the aides?" nt antigop Apr 2016 #18
I am calling it now: The one to take the fall is the black woman, Cheryl Mills. For the record. nt thereismore Apr 2016 #27
It still takes humans to do keyword sorting. ashtonelijah Apr 2016 #32
Translation: united front falls apart when three decide to throw the 4th under the bus. nt thereismore Apr 2016 #23
is the "united front" that they will all take the fifth? nt antigop Apr 2016 #24
Interesting DC Bubble News: Beth Wilkinson is David Gregory's wife... KoKo Apr 2016 #26
Oh yes, very smart. They know they can use all the help they can get. nt thereismore Apr 2016 #28
Watch the FBI offer ONE of them immunity, which one will be smart enough to take it Lurks Often Apr 2016 #30
You are assuming that one of them has damaging testimony to offer to the FBI. beastie boy Apr 2016 #33
Yawn, the FBI is conducting a criminal investigation and have already offered immunity Lurks Often Apr 2016 #73
Amazing how Clinton supporters are not jumping to conclusions, isn't it? beastie boy Apr 2016 #76
I'll save us both some time Lurks Often Apr 2016 #79
Fair enough beastie boy Apr 2016 #83
If I had to guess, there are two parts to the question karynnj Apr 2016 #87
it will also depend on what the charges are Lurks Often Apr 2016 #90
Interesting background there, "karynnj" ... KoKo Apr 2016 #98
This is smart on several levels AngryAmish Apr 2016 #31
I'm sorry, is this FreeRepublic or RightNation? ashtonelijah Apr 2016 #34
Maybe we are tired of all the Clinton drama zalinda Apr 2016 #38
I have a suggestion beastie boy Apr 2016 #62
She brings it on herself, she always seems to step in it. zalinda Apr 2016 #92
No, this is DU, where we discuss issues brought up in news sources... blackspade Apr 2016 #45
Here we go again Hawaii Hiker Apr 2016 #43
I believe that the OP was about Clinton's aides. blackspade Apr 2016 #48
You can find just as many articles by legal folks saying the opposite. 7962 Apr 2016 #97
For someone with a name like "antigop," BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #44
A) Their lawyer sounds awesome B) Imo they have zero worries about legal bills Babel_17 Apr 2016 #50
"La La La La (fingers plugging ears) I'm not listening; THERE IS NO SCANDAL HERE!" Chasstev365 Apr 2016 #52
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