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In reply to the discussion: Israel Demolishes Homes Of 3 Palestinian Attackers [View all]Chan790
(20,176 posts)56. When I need to think something through, I often use the "two lists" method.
Effective responses to terrorism:
Intelligence gathering, counterintelligence, infiltration of cells and organizations responsible, police-actions, procedural reviews to identify weaknesses in current operational methods in order make future attacks more difficult and less effective, litigation, prosecution of responsible parties including those who have lent operational support, {an incomplete list}
Non-effective responses to terrorism:
Bulldozing people's homes; encouraging settlers to disappropriate land from a rival nation, people or tribe; response terrorism; political violence; ghettoization; torture; {an incomplete list}
I admit as an outsider, I may not have a complete or accurate view of actions on the ground...but it seems like Israel does very little on the first list and a whole lot of the second list. I understand their frustrations...but they also seem to not be great at identifying the right targets for their responses. They spend a lot of time leaning on the PA to control Hamas, ignoring that Hamas hates the PA (and its predecessor the PLO) just as much as it hates Israel because the PA is interested in a peace with Israel that Hamas is opposed to. More to the point, Hamas is encouraged to continue its actions...it's anti-peace, acting subverts the efforts of the PA to reach a peace, and Israel continually blames the PA for being unable to control Hamas...they're giving Hamas the response Hamas wants. If they really wanted to piss on Hamas for the shit Hamas does, they should more aggressively prosecute for peace with the PA in response to such actions by Hamas operatives and partisans in the Gaza Strip.
A durable peace for Israel that includes the PA and excludes Hamas is the greatest existential threat to Hamas' continued existence.
Intelligence gathering, counterintelligence, infiltration of cells and organizations responsible, police-actions, procedural reviews to identify weaknesses in current operational methods in order make future attacks more difficult and less effective, litigation, prosecution of responsible parties including those who have lent operational support, {an incomplete list}
Non-effective responses to terrorism:
Bulldozing people's homes; encouraging settlers to disappropriate land from a rival nation, people or tribe; response terrorism; political violence; ghettoization; torture; {an incomplete list}
I admit as an outsider, I may not have a complete or accurate view of actions on the ground...but it seems like Israel does very little on the first list and a whole lot of the second list. I understand their frustrations...but they also seem to not be great at identifying the right targets for their responses. They spend a lot of time leaning on the PA to control Hamas, ignoring that Hamas hates the PA (and its predecessor the PLO) just as much as it hates Israel because the PA is interested in a peace with Israel that Hamas is opposed to. More to the point, Hamas is encouraged to continue its actions...it's anti-peace, acting subverts the efforts of the PA to reach a peace, and Israel continually blames the PA for being unable to control Hamas...they're giving Hamas the response Hamas wants. If they really wanted to piss on Hamas for the shit Hamas does, they should more aggressively prosecute for peace with the PA in response to such actions by Hamas operatives and partisans in the Gaza Strip.
A durable peace for Israel that includes the PA and excludes Hamas is the greatest existential threat to Hamas' continued existence.
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punishing families for crimes of one member of the family - straight out of Colony.
hollysmom
Apr 2016
#4
If there's evidence that the family members colluded - then put them on trial
LeftishBrit
Apr 2016
#54
Absolutely; collective punishment occurs on both sides, and is wrong on both sides!
LeftishBrit
Apr 2016
#55
"they'll think twice when they realize their families will be (punished with no charges, no trial...
duhneece
Apr 2016
#78
How dare you ask someone who's opinions are far more in sync with Democratic Party principle than
King_David
Apr 2016
#113
Your sentiment accurately illustrates precisely why there is no solution available.
LanternWaste
Apr 2016
#33
Except the Palestinians and the neighboring Arab nations weren't the aggressors in Israel's wars
cpwm17
Apr 2016
#77
Using the word Zionist as has been done in this thread , should garner a quick ban on DU too....
King_David
Apr 2016
#93