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66. Would you support punishing the families of other criminals?

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:47 AM

Apr 2016

If someone murders someone in a gang fight, or seriously injures someone in a robbery, would you approve of tearing their families' houses down to 'make them think twice'?

I completely do NOT condone terrorism - just another form of warmongering, and if directed at civilians, of collective punishment - but neither do I support punishing families for the behaviour of individuals.

And I don't think that the US' (or UK's, or any country's) support or lack of it for other countries and groups is generally based much on approval of their actions in a moral sense. If it were, why would both our countries be so friendly with China and Saudi Arabia to name just two?

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Israel Demolishes Homes Of 3 Palestinian Attackers [View all] Purveyor Apr 2016 OP

business as usual. hollysmom Apr 2016 #1

Yep. Innocent Israelis getting stabbed for no conceivable COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #2

punishing families for crimes of one member of the family - straight out of Colony. hollysmom Apr 2016 #4

Hard to find a deterrent for someone who wants to be COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #5

Deterrent my ass. sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #8

These fucking families aren't innocent Leontius Apr 2016 #15

So you agree with Donald Trump's fascism cpwm17 Apr 2016 #16

That's sick. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #17

I wouldn't call them liberals. cpwm17 Apr 2016 #18

In my opinion your world view is a bit skewed Marrah_G Apr 2016 #21

"These Fucking Families" sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #26

Your sentiment is irrational. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #32

If there's evidence that the family members colluded - then put them on trial LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #54

Interesting leftynyc Apr 2016 #23

Your argument seems to be predicated sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #27

No - not at all leftynyc Apr 2016 #29

Insults are a poor substitute sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #31

And I see you're going leftynyc Apr 2016 #35

Do your friends and family sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #37

I understand leftynyc Apr 2016 #38

The stabbing in the OP did happen in the illegally occupied West Bank cpwm17 Apr 2016 #40

Now is the time sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #41

Riiiiggghhhht leftynyc Apr 2016 #42

Well, sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #44

Where did I say a two leftynyc Apr 2016 #46

So when IDF kills 2000 people... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #119

Tell hamas to stop leftynyc Apr 2016 #120

Absolutely; collective punishment occurs on both sides, and is wrong on both sides! LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #55

Why is that hard leftynyc Apr 2016 #63

The governement is responsible for most of the problems Marrah_G Apr 2016 #84

If there was ever an argument that leftynyc Apr 2016 #85

Going to walk away now Marrah_G Apr 2016 #86

I don't hate them leftynyc Apr 2016 #87

Seems you have a hatred, too. 840high Apr 2016 #104

Agreed...and with your vehemence if not your eloquence nt duhneece Apr 2016 #76

I agree with every leftynyc Apr 2016 #22

Would you support punishing the families of other criminals? LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #66

I think when you're dealing with leftynyc Apr 2016 #69

"they'll think twice when they realize their families will be (punished with no charges, no trial... duhneece Apr 2016 #78

How have I lasted? leftynyc Apr 2016 #80

How dare a poster with extremist views King_David Apr 2016 #114

How dare you ask someone who's opinions are far more in sync with Democratic Party principle than King_David Apr 2016 #113

If I ever saw before or believed that DU supported punishing families ... duhneece Apr 2016 #118

When I need to think something through, I often use the "two lists" method. Chan790 Apr 2016 #56

This is the young woman who was murdered: NutmegYankee Apr 2016 #3

This is what Palestinian 'martyrs' accomplish. And COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #6

Hasbara bullshit sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #9

This woman's name sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #12

No evidence of posters - except photographic. NutmegYankee Apr 2016 #13

What is there to see? sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #14

Perhaps there are no reports because it's a) commonplace COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #61

They can cheer their sons "accomplishments" from the street. GOLGO 13 Apr 2016 #7

The families are not responsible for the actions of one Marrah_G Apr 2016 #20

I'd be really pissed at the idiot in my famiy COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #105

Your sentiment accurately illustrates precisely why there is no solution available. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #33

Fascism is alive in Israel (and on DU). cpwm17 Apr 2016 #10

Like it or not, it is an effective strategy FLPanhandle Apr 2016 #11

I don't feel bad for the attackers Marrah_G Apr 2016 #19

This was a tactic carried out during the Britiah mandate. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #24

Collective punishment is a crime against humanity. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #25

Fuck Israeli, Old Vet Apr 2016 #28

So they just made at least 12 more Israeli haters. nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #30

No need. Palestinian TV shows for children COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #57

All of this, all of it due to the Sikes-Picot Accord of 1919. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #34

That's NOTHING Agony Apr 2016 #36

Nakba cpwm17 Apr 2016 #39

Perhaps if the Palestinians leftynyc Apr 2016 #43

Zionists calling Palestinians terrorists sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #45

LOL - Stole? leftynyc Apr 2016 #47

The illegality sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #48

Yawn leftynyc Apr 2016 #50

There are so many logical fallacies sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #51

Yaaawwwwnnnnn leftynyc Apr 2016 #52

Pride struts before destruction, sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #53

Oh no! Biblical theats, no less.nt COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #59

It's called a Biblical allusion. sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #70

Sigh leftynyc Apr 2016 #62

All you hear from that poster is "Zionists,Zionists,Zionists " King_David Apr 2016 #60

I noticed that also leftynyc Apr 2016 #64

The poster was addressing sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #71

They're ISRAELI'S leftynyc Apr 2016 #73

This may be disturbing to you, sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #75

Don't try and play your games leftynyc Apr 2016 #79

Slow down! sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #89

You think you have leftynyc Apr 2016 #92

AntiZionism is Antisemitism King_David Apr 2016 #82

That worn out canard is like saying anti-fascists sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #94

Nope King_David Apr 2016 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #96

"The world demands they return what they stole in 1967" COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #58

In that case, sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #72

"Stole?" No....won. nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #65

More fascism on DU. cpwm17 Apr 2016 #67

Under which definition of international law sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #74

Except the Palestinians and the neighboring Arab nations weren't the aggressors in Israel's wars cpwm17 Apr 2016 #77

Weren't the aggressors? King_David Apr 2016 #83

1967 was a "preemptive war" by Israel. cpwm17 Apr 2016 #88

You use the word "Zionist" as a perjorative King_David Apr 2016 #91

Your lack of interest in the terrible crimes against the Palestinians is noted, cpwm17 Apr 2016 #98

We all know what you're really talking about ... King_David Apr 2016 #100

Speak for yourself. cpwm17 Apr 2016 #111

My post stands King_David Apr 2016 #112

'Zionists'? LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #68

Defending Americans that stole land from the natives a long ago cpwm17 Apr 2016 #81

Using the word Zionist as has been done in this thread , should garner a quick ban on DU too.... King_David Apr 2016 #93

I use the word "Zionist" here to distinguish from the Israelis, cpwm17 Apr 2016 #97

Oh please King_David Apr 2016 #99

The number one thing that makes a liberal a liberal cpwm17 Apr 2016 #107

Is "noted"... King_David Apr 2016 #108

"antiZionism is Antisemitism"? Bullshit. Nihil Apr 2016 #109

I am fighting bigotry here, King_David Apr 2016 #110

No, you are spreading it. Nihil Apr 2016 #115

And I'm done with you King_David Apr 2016 #116

But, unsurprisingly, you managed to fit in one more libel on your opponent before going. Nihil Apr 2016 #117

I thought Israel ended that practice about 5 years ago democrattotheend Apr 2016 #49

To understand the problem, answer some questions: scioto99 Apr 2016 #90

Time to cut all aid to israel forever yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #101

only a matter of time MFM008 Apr 2016 #102

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #103

You get the Godwin award for this, COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #106

Ummm, isn't this a war crime? maxrandb Apr 2016 #121