Trayvon Martin Case Prompts Civil Rights Commission Investigation On Stand Your Ground Laws

[gejohnston]

24. hogwash

Nobody has to prove their innocence in this country unless they have already been convicted. Innocent until proven guilty is the standard in all 50 states. These laws were written by the wingnut organization ALEC for the bullshit reason of pandering to gun nuts to try to 'solve' a problem that never existed in the first place.

You didn't read the link? Justifiable homicide is not a crime. Under DTR, you are charged with murder, but you use self defense as an affirmative defense. Justifiable homicide includes self defense. Therefore, you have to prove that you are innocent of murder or manslaughter.

If you want to talk "justifiable homicide" I can give you multiple instances in Florida alone where people who were the aggressor shot and killed or seriously wounded unarmed people and got away with it as a direct result of these laws. Zimmerman would have gotten away with it too had it not been for an overwealming public outcry of injustice and still may.

Name one. The public outcry was the MSM doing a trial by media, AKA electronic lynching. Much of the MSM's reports were wrong and incomplete. I'll wait for the real trial to decide Zimmerman.

Stand-your-ground is a marketing term devised by ALEC to convince those who didn't take the time to actually read the law that it actually serves a useful purpose. It doesn't and never did. These laws and the one in Florida in particular are more accurately described as 'shoot first'.

Shoot first was a marketing term used by propagandists over Colorado's Castle doctrine. SYG is the accepted term. It is older than ALEC. California has been SYG 110 years before Florida.