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Vatican Academy Criticizes Sanders�s �Monumental Discourtesy� [View all] brooklynite Apr 2016 OP

oopsy daisy. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #1

Nope, this is bullshit. Go after Bernie when he fucks up, he didnt here. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #61

I highly doubt the Vatican is taking orders from Hillary geek tragedy Apr 2016 #68

The vatican didnt say this. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #75

the woman making these statements is part of the Vatican geek tragedy Apr 2016 #87

Then why did the BBC not even mention it per another post here? Makes no sense. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #104

I'm not a huge fan of the Catholic Church. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #114

Something is wrong here and I think I smell Brock Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #116

This is a dispute between Sanders and the Vatican, specifically the Vatican geek tragedy Apr 2016 #119

There is NO dispute. ONLY one woman telling lies... PatV Apr 2016 #385

Why is her gender relevant? oberliner Apr 2016 #468

Because often women act poorly too. So take your sexist PatV Apr 2016 #486

Huh? oberliner Apr 2016 #487

Surrrrre you were. PatV Apr 2016 #489

That "woman telling lies" is a Vatican INSIDER who goes back THREE POPES. MADem Apr 2016 #472

so Bloomberg is part of the Brock machinery? still_one Apr 2016 #125

This message was self-deleted by its author Bradj5 Apr 2016 #164

National Report is a fake news source oberliner Apr 2016 #233

Oh come ON. That's just asinine! Brock? Wow, that Francis is a real wuss, to get MADem Apr 2016 #245

You might want to walk back on your assertions--neither Hillary Kingofalldems Apr 2016 #291

Assertions? I am mostly playing around, you see i consider all this to be nonsense. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #311

Brock, again! NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #410

It just didnt make ANY Sense at all so mostly for fun I said that, kinda like how Soros Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #413

Okay, sorry NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #414

I was half serious, but at the same time I see all of this as a distraction real liberals dont need. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #415

Ted Cruz is in some ways scarier than Trump NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #417

Much scarier, he is the real thing. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #419

Apparently there are different versions of this creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #202

Hm...interesting. Appears we have a mistranslation of Italian to English... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #221

Prof. Archer is English and that is the language she was speaking in her quote. nt MADem Apr 2016 #255

So if the BBC doesn't mention something NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #408

The Vatican says it did not issue the invitation. The Pontifical Academy did. pnwmom Apr 2016 #195

Yeah, that's exactly what I thought. Another non-scandal smear job. Go Bernie! nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #216

No. The President of that Academy says she only issued the invitation pnwmom Apr 2016 #228

According to Bloomberg (just released) Bernie is in fact speaking. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #256

Because of his lobbying efforts, yes. But if they had known he was in the midst pnwmom Apr 2016 #263

Face it, it was just another in a long string of Clinton Camp hit-job FAILS. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #266

You've gotta be kidding... curiouso Apr 2016 #295

It's possible for them to trick a Papal agency, just like it was possible for them to trick pnwmom Apr 2016 #301

The Pope Prefers Lesbos? MADem Apr 2016 #473

Much like the non-scandal smear job Bernie supporter Jackie threw at Clinton above. Nitram Apr 2016 #275

Just like Bernie got Greenpeace to attack HRC? bigbrother05 Apr 2016 #363

The President of the Academy is the woman who is complaining. I think she feels hoodwinked. nt MADem Apr 2016 #237

The Vatican said it DID offer the invitation Tempest Apr 2016 #421

OK, that was funny!!! MADem Apr 2016 #238

Here is the PRESS STATEMENT from the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences mentioning Bernie CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #127

Thanks. 840high Apr 2016 #141

Thanks. Its weird because if he DID ask, why wouldn't they just say no riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #157

Bernie was asked, he was invited CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #180

Therein lies the question... curiouso Apr 2016 #284

She is Opus Dei. nt Doremus Apr 2016 #485

Thank you, CoffeeCat for the information. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2016 #185

The woman who made the remark is more than some woman with an opinion. MADem Apr 2016 #189

Well, this woman's opinion doesn't seem to be shared by the Academy CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #205

She is the PRESIDENT of the Academy. She IS the Academy. She was APPOINTED by Pope Francis. MADem Apr 2016 #232

Bernie was never slated CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #250

you tell it coffee cat! retrowire Apr 2016 #262

You bet! (nt) CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #368

This is my view--Prof. Archer was saying what the Pope could not say. MADem Apr 2016 #264

Chancellor's are higher in the chain than Presidents usually riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #317

Lady Archer is the Bishop's boss--it's in the bylaws of the Academy. MADem Apr 2016 #474

Come off it--you were calling her a 'conservative bishop' upthread. MADem Apr 2016 #444

Point taken creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #296

The Chancellor invited Bernie on behalf of the President, but the President didn't know a thing MADem Apr 2016 #432

What you've written is essentially an "artful smear" creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #461

Oh horseshit. You don't have a response so you drag out that tired, meaningless little term. MADem Apr 2016 #464

Lady Archer has since said she was misquoted creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #470

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #471

You're wrong creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #475

I gave you the BYLAWS OF THE ACADEMY. You reply with "Bloomberg?" Get over yourself. MADem Apr 2016 #476

I've reported you for incivility creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #477

Shameful alert. I can't believe you admitted to that alert. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #478

You were alerted. ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2016 #479

seems you beat me on reporting without me noticing somehow Bodhi BloodWave Apr 2016 #483

This message was self-deleted by its author Bodhi BloodWave Apr 2016 #480

How is MADem wrong? SunSeeker Apr 2016 #481

You twist facts as much as Hillary ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #409

I saw the press release that said the ACADEMY invited him, not the Pope. MADem Apr 2016 #428

Yes, she's a British sociologist. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2016 #314

Thanks for this. bjo59 Apr 2016 #204

The woman who made the remark is a conservative Bishop..... Grins Apr 2016 #211

The woman is the HEAD of the organization that invited him and is in the position to know pnwmom Apr 2016 #240

You have no evidence that Bernie "begged" for an invitation CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #261

The "one woman" is the HEAD of the org that invited him. She knows the circumstances and pnwmom Apr 2016 #271

There are plenty of important people with vital voices CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #279

You claim that the whole org invited him. What is your basis for saying that? And where does it say pnwmom Apr 2016 #286

Well, clearly one can make deductions CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #375

VATICAN CONFIRMS IT, NOT THE ACADEMY SENT OFFER TO SANDERS Tempest Apr 2016 #424

If she's the HEAD of the organization TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #308

Link? And where does it say the whole organization invited him/ pnwmom Apr 2016 #280

Thank you for the clarification. NikolaC Apr 2016 #302

There are no women bishops in the Catholic Church. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2016 #313

Many reported that she was a conservative bishop CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #331

All Catholic bishops are priests; woman cannot be priests. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2016 #333

Jackie, can you tell us how Hillary had anything to do with this? Nitram Apr 2016 #269

I said Brock, not Hillary. And I may have been wrong, it just seemed ridiculous. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #303

monumental discourtesy? BWAHAHAHA! FROM THE PEOPLE WHO HID PEDOS!? roguevalley Apr 2016 #315

Hillary is jealous. The Pope snubbed her. She'll wine and dine with Goldman Sachs, instead. (nt) w4rma Apr 2016 #335

I doubt she's jealous, Sanders asked to be invited, I imagine geek tragedy Apr 2016 #340

Papal official denies report Sanders invited himself to Vatican (Papal aide accuses Archer of lying) w4rma Apr 2016 #349

I think his time would be better spent in NY if he thinks he has a chance at winning NY nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #353

I don't think you have America's best interests in mind, geek tragedy. (nt) w4rma Apr 2016 #357

Bye. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #359

Papal official denies report Sanders invited himself to Vatican PatV Apr 2016 #350

the Vatican has sent mixed signals. People can say the opposite about what the Vatican has said geek tragedy Apr 2016 #356

Surrrrrre. It's the 'Vatican's' fault. Sure seems funny a papal aide who is head of the organization PatV Apr 2016 #371

"some foreign woman" who happens to be a Vatican official appointed geek tragedy Apr 2016 #377

And she's also a liar meddling into our election and disgracing that 'official appointment' PatV Apr 2016 #382

you are very lucky you changed your wording. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #383

No, only ONE woman. Post the other Vatican official's statements from the 'other' officials who say PatV Apr 2016 #388

she is a Vatican official who heads up the academy hosting the event. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #392

Maybe not for long. I seem to remember something about not telling any lies. PatV Apr 2016 #397

Just so people understand, Archer has been affiliated with the Academy for YEARS. MADem Apr 2016 #446

Nice try. forest444 Apr 2016 #389

I'm at a loss too. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #2

Might be a couple of lines in his interview revbones Apr 2016 #5

Maybe he used the wrong colour notepaper when he replied. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #11

My guess is that the "Vatican Academy" will turn out to be unassociated with the Vatican revbones Apr 2016 #14

Could be. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #25

Bad headline dorkzilla Apr 2016 #38

Yeah. There's some other discussion going on here revbones Apr 2016 #173

Links to website and wiki... Cerridwen Apr 2016 #53

Um, right here... brooklynite Apr 2016 #170

Um, right here... revbones Apr 2016 #172

What is the "Vatican Academy"? revbones Apr 2016 #3

I think this is it, here: Saviolo Apr 2016 #39

Oh, snap! I'm loving this NY version of the campaign more and more. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #4

So do tell. What's the "Vatican Academy" and what was the gaff? nt revbones Apr 2016 #6

Bloomberg apparently considered their opinion worthy of note... Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #27

So you just go around repeating what you don't understand. Got it. nt revbones Apr 2016 #31

Read further down thread, if you want to understand. Dishonest move on Bern's part to wangle Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #66

If he did ask, why wouldn't they have just said no riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #161

Why did the Pope inadvertently "meet" with Kim Davis under false pretenses, Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #242

OP is DEBUNKED! riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #297

"The office of the pope moved quickly to distance the pontiff from Sanders�s visit." Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #322

"This is an invitation from the Vatican" he said. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #328

Did you hear Bern's fake-humble, misleading and disingenuous Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #334

Yes. He never said he was invited by the Pope nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #341

Wrangle an invite? kristopher Apr 2016 #351

Wangle... Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #360

The article clearly identifies it: Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences beastie boy Apr 2016 #41

Yes but she is not part of the vatican she is a professor in the uk dr60omg Apr 2016 #181

She's the President of the Academy, which is part of the Vatican, but she's not part of the Vatican? brooklynite Apr 2016 #193

Margaret Archer is a professor in the UK dr60omg Apr 2016 #398

She's the President of the Academy that invited Bernie. pnwmom Apr 2016 #198

And yet, one must apply to be invited Fiendish Thingy Apr 2016 #231

Apparently you have some info the rest of us don't. jomin41 Apr 2016 #15

No, only Bloomberg's headline: Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #21

So, you're just quoting a headline you don't understand? Got it. revbones Apr 2016 #30

See here...and read down thread. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #117

See here revbones Apr 2016 #167

Oh wait he WAS "invited" revbones Apr 2016 #226

CYA - "he declined to say who initiated the contacts..." Bwaahaaa! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #253

BOOM he pope accepted Bernies request and turned the Clinton's Foundation down flat azurnoir Apr 2016 #107

Actually the Pope had nothing to BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #287

How is seeking an audiance at the Vatican (as opposed to an invite) a monumental FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #7

"Obama invited me to the White House" Igel Apr 2016 #135

I take your point. But here is the actual invite. Looks like they didn't just 'write in FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #152

President Margaret Archer could just have said no if it was Bernie�s request riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #184

She was not contacted about it. BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #300

Spot on! BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #298

Seems a tad odd - why would an Englishwoman be talking about our elections? IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #8

Because she is the President of the Academy he finagled an invitation from pnwmom Apr 2016 #16

Just a tad "off-color" for "His Pureness", don't you think? Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #36

Sorry to tell you but RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #86

Sorry to tell you this but the Vatican already forced one Bishop into retirement for getting them pnwmom Apr 2016 #103

West Virginnie, and the US president race RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #132

This would be an even bigger deal and he would be even LESS likely to want pnwmom Apr 2016 #136

That doesn't make sense creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #99

The U.S. is not at the center of the Vatican's universe, and this has been a very long pnwmom Apr 2016 #110

I'm not familiar with the Kim Davis matter creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #129

You don't speak for everyone in Europe, obviously. And being aware that there is a campaign on pnwmom Apr 2016 #168

Francis doesn't really like us all that much. He thinks we're soft and pampered and jerky. He's MADem Apr 2016 #466

She is blunt and feisty, and most of her jabs are at the right-wing... Blue Meany Apr 2016 #17

Why is that odd. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #19

They believe he is trying to "use" the Pope to get "the Catholic vote." MADem Apr 2016 #24

And who is the "Vatican Academy"? Try googling it. nt revbones Apr 2016 #32

It's the Pontifical Academy--"Vatican" is shorthand. Sanders is going to a conference there. MADem Apr 2016 #46

You have the name wrong. pnwmom Apr 2016 #47

No, I had the name the article originally used. nt revbones Apr 2016 #79

Did you even try googling it before dispensing with your advice? beastie boy Apr 2016 #50

The article said "Vatican Academy" not "Pontifical Acedemy of Science" nt revbones Apr 2016 #76

For god's sake, read the OP! beastie boy Apr 2016 #139

So tell me what changed. Is Clinton speaking at the Vatican now? Nope. nt revbones Apr 2016 #146

Huh? beastie boy Apr 2016 #192

Here's a link that might be relevant. revbones Apr 2016 #165

It has zero relevance unless you document a lie and link it to beastie boy Apr 2016 #187

Pope Francis liberal from boston Apr 2016 #282

Here ya go .... salinsky Apr 2016 #67

The article said "Vatican Academy" not "Pontifical Acedemy of Science" nt revbones Apr 2016 #73

I can explain - 'Vatican' is an adjective, and 'Academy' is a noun muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #147

Sure, explain it some more. Break down all the headlines about Bernie being invited revbones Apr 2016 #162

No, I don't think you're ready for anything more about how to write articles muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #186

Sure. I can admit the headline was misleading and I read it incorrectly. revbones Apr 2016 #197

Disagree. Bringing this topic up as mainstream news IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #91

What topic? MADem Apr 2016 #101

Creating a MORAL economic model, etc. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #109

I think this might shed some light on the matter--not much, but a little MADem Apr 2016 #171

No, he's using this "invitation" to curry the Catholic vote. But he's currying it under pnwmom Apr 2016 #120

I think he's doing it because he CARES about the issue. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #154

I think he's doing it because there are a lot of Catholics in NY and this is free publicity. pnwmom Apr 2016 #158

Well, the fact is he's going to do it. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #190

well, they turn Clinton's many and varied FP failures into success stupidicus Apr 2016 #178

I agree with you. The Wielding Truth Apr 2016 #354

If he asked to be there, why didn't she just say no? riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #176

The Vatican says they didn't invite him. pnwmom Apr 2016 #201

If she were "overridden by someone" she wouldn't have said a word. MADem Apr 2016 #203

Looks like she was overriden. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #310

The Chancellor is subordinate to the President. She's the commander, he's the XO. MADem Apr 2016 #451

The chancellor is a close aide to Frances and a permanent member of the Vatican elite riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #459

And Professor Archer has been a member of the ACADEMY since way before FRANCIS (IS, not ES) MADem Apr 2016 #463

Lol, proving my point that this is a private spat gone public riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #465

Do you not even read? "Temporary Female Hire?" She's been there longer than two Popes! MADem Apr 2016 #467

Pope Francis liberal from boston Apr 2016 #321

Maybe they didn't realize he was going to use this as a campaign event. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #9

Bernie not having a good week. riversedge Apr 2016 #10

Yeah, winning Wisconsin and getting invited to the Vatican isn't good. revbones Apr 2016 #18

I know its a bad week for Bernie gabeana Apr 2016 #90

Yes, but can he recover? NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #230

Sounds like papal politics to me. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #12

Pope Francis liberal from boston Apr 2016 #166

Translation Tempest Apr 2016 #13

^^^DING DING DING ^^^ revbones Apr 2016 #20

Their home page.... MADem Apr 2016 #62

The article at the time said "Vatican Academy" not "Pontifical Academy" revbones Apr 2016 #69

It's all the same thing. The two words are used interchangeably. MADem Apr 2016 #219

Translation: the Vatican doesn't endorse politicos. Bernie snookered them. pnwmom Apr 2016 #23

They didn't realize he was in the middle of a hotly contested campaign? LOL morningfog Apr 2016 #54

well, they did get snookered with kim davis... getagrip_already Apr 2016 #93

^^^ This ^^^ aquamarina Apr 2016 #94

The US and its political campaigns are not at the center of the Vatican' world. Far from it. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #124

They don't have the google there either? That's hilarious! Bernie Snookered them! morningfog Apr 2016 #169

Kim Davis snookered them. How is it surprising to think Bernie could? From a narcissistic pnwmom Apr 2016 #174

SO why would they even extend an invite to this old Jewish guy from Vermont? morningfog Apr 2016 #182

I think Bernie called the Argentine Bishop, with whom he shares certain philosophical approaches, MADem Apr 2016 #455

Translation: She's upset that she wasn't personally genuflected towards Scootaloo Apr 2016 #281

Hahahaha! Pettiness and being bitter fits Clinton supporters perfectly. And since you want to PatV Apr 2016 #288

You're wrong. Will you offer a retraction? Tempest Apr 2016 #420

Bingo jberryhill Apr 2016 #97

Bishop?? Here's who was quoted in the article ... salinsky Apr 2016 #98

So he pretended he got this invitation "out of the blue" when in reality pnwmom Apr 2016 #22

Bingo. nt MADem Apr 2016 #28

According to this person. The truth is unknown, but I see you've already divined what the truth is. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #29

"This person" is the President of the organization and she's speaking for it. That is the truth. pnwmom Apr 2016 #35

That doesn't mean she's telling the truth. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #43

If they HAD initiated the invitation, there's no reason they'd be denying it. But Bernie pnwmom Apr 2016 #52

You assume that they weren't forced to do so by the pope? JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #56

Yes. Because the Pope has made a point in other situations of staying out of 'US politics. pnwmom Apr 2016 #126

Do you have a source for that? creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #121

The MSNBC story. And I agree with you. That's why his claim smelled so fishy. But that's pnwmom Apr 2016 #133

It would be a VATICAN spokesperson not a Professor in the UK dr60omg Apr 2016 #183

This "President" and her comments have been thrashed by her superior, a chancellor CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #369

"This person" is running the conference. I think she might know who wanted to get on the list of MADem Apr 2016 #80

Who you going to believe, the Vatican or this Academy? nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #34

The Academy is the sponsor of the forum Sanders is speaking at. brooklynite Apr 2016 #37

Understood but how do you square this with every other report riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #44

The other reports were speaking loosely. The conference is being held by the pnwmom Apr 2016 #70

I'm going to have to have more than one outlier report on that riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #82

The only report quoting the HEAD of the organization sponsoring the conference pnwmom Apr 2016 #88

She was appointed by Francis ... salinsky Apr 2016 #108

Thanks. Just read that riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #113

If she was so concerned, why not just turn down the request? bigbrother05 Apr 2016 #191

You know the US isn't really the center of the universe. We just think we are. pnwmom Apr 2016 #206

And their press release touted Senator Sanders at #1 on their speakers list bigbrother05 Apr 2016 #355

Because the President of the Academy, who sets the agenda, says otherwise? MADem Apr 2016 #89

Until there's more than one outlier report on this riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #106

To be fair to brooklynite, the wire services may have been taking Sanders' press statement as source JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #40

I am going to believe the Vatican. Or maybe thje Vatican. beastie boy Apr 2016 #55

This isn't a statement from the Vatican. The President of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, pnwmom Apr 2016 #64

Typical conniving pol...his "faux" humility when announcing the invite on Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #150

You mean typical Hillarybot LIES. Archer has been shown to be a liar. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #362

He said, she said...sounds a bit like Bern backtracking on yesterday's "misspeak". LOL! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #366

It's not he said she said. He's her boss. Sounds like more Hillarybot LYING. LOL! BillZBubb Apr 2016 #370

Finally! Small favors, thank god for them...LOL! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #373

Just Sanders pandering for the Catholic vote..... riversedge Apr 2016 #26

Shoulda said he was pushing blanket amnesty for priests. Jerry442 Apr 2016 #33

We have a winner! n/t beastie boy Apr 2016 #60

Sanders asked to be there and they said yes. Renew Deal Apr 2016 #42

Not according to every other news report out there riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #49

It's possible to ask for an invitation. Renew Deal Apr 2016 #57

Agreed. I think we're looking at nuance here riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #71

If that is the case why distort it by claiming they invited him? Iliyah Apr 2016 #77

This is negative spin, designed to lessen Bernie's amazing invitation CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #45

That's right, tell the President of the Academy to quit spinning! beastie boy Apr 2016 #78

Here is the letter that the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences wrote to Bernie CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #111

It appears they are so delighted, they didn't see fit to put Bernie's name on the invitation. beastie boy Apr 2016 #122

This is a formal press statement from the Pontifical Academy of Arts and Sciences CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #142

OK, I am taking your word over that of the President of the Academy. beastie boy Apr 2016 #163

I think it's important to understand the dynamics here CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #196

Still no invitation, or any record of how Bernie obtained it. beastie boy Apr 2016 #217

So who is .... including US Senator Sanders....? It's on the second line. The Wielding Truth Apr 2016 #365

That was unclear until very recently beastie boy Apr 2016 #384

beastie boy, Check into Bernie. Look how his life has been honest. He as been trustworthy. The Wielding Truth Apr 2016 #394

Fascinating how you posted the story (8:49) 10 minutes before its posting (8:59). JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #48

Did you ever doubt it? morningfog Apr 2016 #59

Curiouser and curiouser. Scuba Apr 2016 #72

Probably an updated time on the article Blue_Adept Apr 2016 #74

Nope! They updated the story for real now, and posted a timestamp! JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #84

I run a few different sites myself - nothing of that scale of course Blue_Adept Apr 2016 #96

I edited my post...I initially agreed with you, but now doubt it's the case here. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #102

They didn't just update. They rewrote the entire article. The chancellor disputes her. hedda_foil Apr 2016 #251

Great catch concreteblue Apr 2016 #81

!!! LadyHawkAZ Apr 2016 #105

Bloomberg has redirected their first story to that new page muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #177

OR.....I read Twitter. brooklynite Apr 2016 #224

SNAP! Skittles Apr 2016 #243

They must have had to run the story by the Clinton Campaign to make sure they hit all the points Maedhros Apr 2016 #309

Hmmm, violating a papal protocol vs lying us into an illegal war. Yeah, that balances the scale. Scuba Apr 2016 #51

Hillary lied us into an illegal war? leftynyc Apr 2016 #304

She helped Bush, a lot. Ever hear her impassioned speech, which repeated Bush's lies? Scuba Apr 2016 #316

And more bullshit from leftynyc Apr 2016 #323

Here's Hillary, parroting her "brother" George W. Bush ... Scuba Apr 2016 #330

You can post that leftynyc Apr 2016 #337

So she's gullible? That's how you defend her? Scuba Apr 2016 #342

President has to show good judgment. immoderate Apr 2016 #490

I'd take the Pope's judgement over whomever this is. CanadaexPat Apr 2016 #58

Bernie's speqking at a conference held by the Pontifical Academy of Social Science. pnwmom Apr 2016 #83

Fair enough...show us a quote by the Pope on this matter. brooklynite Apr 2016 #188

This reminds me a bit of the Kim Davis thing hollowdweller Apr 2016 #63

The person that put Davis there was recently fired Renew Deal Apr 2016 #100

'Monumental discourtesy???' PatrickforO Apr 2016 #65

That's an attributed quote Renew Deal Apr 2016 #92

If you found that actual quote please show us. It appears no where in the various updates to the FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #140

It was discourteous to trick the Pontifical Academy into issuing an invitation pnwmom Apr 2016 #148

And you know those two points how? FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #327

Well.. Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #85

No mention of the Hillary camp here beastie boy Apr 2016 #115

That is an absurd comment and I implied NOTHING of the sort. nt. Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #118

You implied the invitation snafu is a consequece of Hillary being upset and trying to smear Bernie beastie boy Apr 2016 #137

No, it isn't... Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #138

Direct quote from your post: beastie boy Apr 2016 #145

The Pope didn't issue the invitation. The Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences pnwmom Apr 2016 #153

They didn't have to issue an invite in the first place. Csainvestor Apr 2016 #95

I think this comment says more about Margaret Archer alcina Apr 2016 #112

She's a liar. PatV Apr 2016 #358

wow, that is a big deal still_one Apr 2016 #123

what a stupid clickbait article... this is truly the silly season Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #128

Vatican Academy/Charm School/Finishing School for Girls? closeupready Apr 2016 #130

If Bernie Sanders showed "monumental discourtesy" shawn703 Apr 2016 #131

This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #134

It has. pnwmom Apr 2016 #207

Here's a link to the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences Uponthegears Apr 2016 #143

Our voice jeepers Apr 2016 #144

The point of the harridan's press release can be gleaned from her last sentence,"...not that he will Hoppy Apr 2016 #149

No press release - phone interview. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #159

The Vatican has confirmed that they didn't issue the invitation -- she did. pnwmom Apr 2016 #213

Please define the word "harridan" for us all. scioto99 Apr 2016 #236

Upthread, she was accused of "bitching" and "pitching a hissy fit" displacedtexan Apr 2016 #402

How do we fix it? scioto99 Apr 2016 #443

The whole thing smells of horseshit and I don't think the church would... Bonhomme Richard Apr 2016 #151

do you mean into a better Bernie condemnation than you can come up with? stupidicus Apr 2016 #155

Sanders Aide Disputes Vatican Story on Lobbied Invitation muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #156

The Vatican disputes that. And they would know. pnwmom Apr 2016 #215

The Vatican press office later clarified that it did not issue the invitation . . . Iliyah Apr 2016 #258

No-one claimed the press office issued an invitation muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #260

I did kinda assume that the Pope had heard his stump speech and personally called him to say, scioto99 Apr 2016 #160

The Vatican says they didn't issue the invitation. It came from the Academy run by the woman pnwmom Apr 2016 #225

Too byzantine for me. scioto99 Apr 2016 #241

IN case you were wondering WHO Margaret Archer is dr60omg Apr 2016 #175

And she's the President of the Pontifical Academy that organized the conference. nt pnwmom Apr 2016 #248

The Chancellor of the Academy refutes this dr60omg Apr 2016 #396

Let me get this straight Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #179

He's also getting a quarter million in speaking fees. bluedigger Apr 2016 #290

Bazinga! Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #294

Jealousy is what drove ms. Archer's statement...she needs to go to confession. 4139 Apr 2016 #194

What's she jealous of? Did she suddenly wanna win Oregon? scioto99 Apr 2016 #249

It was/is 'her event' and now Bernie is upstaging here by a million times. And there big media.... 4139 Apr 2016 #273

i would think getting media to crawl all over her event would be a coup. scioto99 Apr 2016 #285

She didn't invite him, she is layperson and President of the group; The Chancellor, a Bishop invited 4139 Apr 2016 #299

i think you're right ... shireen Apr 2016 #367

Where was Hillar's invite? Lars39 Apr 2016 #199

Bloomberg falling in line with the Daily News.. full of shit. nt phazed0 Apr 2016 #200

This message was self-deleted by its author Vilis Veritas Apr 2016 #208

I think the Catholics would have preferred to be left out of the political discussions. Laser102 Apr 2016 #209

Exactly. The Vatican tries to stay out of politics. A Bishop was forced into early retirement pnwmom Apr 2016 #254

Oops. Vatican confirms they invited Sanders Tempest Apr 2016 #426

Fuck the Vatican. It's a corrupt cesspool. Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #210

Another BS fail! liberal N proud Apr 2016 #212

Yep pandr32 Apr 2016 #386

Hillary's invite? Where is that? LaurenG Apr 2016 #214

Hey, anybody on this post want to invite me to dinner? earthmanneil Apr 2016 #218

I'll translate for you deacon_sephiroth Apr 2016 #220

Never Mind Worldly Traveler Apr 2016 #222

When you post in the LBN the instructions say "Use the EXACT TITLE of the article you are posting, Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #223

It's the kind of desperation I've come to expect Cheap_Trick Apr 2016 #235

This was the exact headline at the time I read it. brooklynite Apr 2016 #244

IT HAS TO BE A CONSPIRACY BROOKLYNITE! Skittles Apr 2016 #252

I assumed it was a mis-translation from Latin... brooklynite Apr 2016 #267

Is the story different now? creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #318

Bloomberg have redirected requests to a new page muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #270

The OP tried their best... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #425

Here is the press release from the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences. elleng Apr 2016 #227

If you had to apply, then why did Bernie say on MSNBC that he had just gotten the invitation pnwmom Apr 2016 #246

You think Margaret Archer is a 'conservative Bishop'? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #277

Quote: ":...he should remember that and act accordingly.." Grins Apr 2016 #229

That's how most conferences work. Potential invitees typically first apply and propose their talks. DrBulldog Apr 2016 #234

You don't rise through the ranks in the Vatican unless you're an extreme right-winger. nichomachus Apr 2016 #239

He was never invited to talk to Pope Francis or to the "Vatican" DesertRat Apr 2016 #247

The Vatican disagrees with the economics of the right and the social philosophy of the left. pnwmom Apr 2016 #257

This message was self-deleted by its author Vilis Veritas Apr 2016 #289

I find her much more "discourteous" LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #345

Bernie lied on at least one count beastie boy Apr 2016 #259

OMG! It just keeps getting better and better. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #272

Geez, just be truthful with it. Iliyah Apr 2016 #306

After the Kim Davis imbroglio last BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #283

It's like that Trump thing with the pope. scioto99 Apr 2016 #292

Margaret has her knickers in a twist greymouse Apr 2016 #265

Certainly. The piece has been completely rewritten. Click on your original link. hedda_foil Apr 2016 #268

Breach of protocol involved - BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #274

I bet a lamp or two will be hitting the wall over at Clinton Campaign HQ over this. frylock Apr 2016 #276

More like glasses clinking in a toast DesertRat Apr 2016 #406

Oh, okay. frylock Apr 2016 #407

It's a bad idea to involve the Vatican in American politics. Americans have NCjack Apr 2016 #278

Debunked by a Vatican chancellor riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #293

There is a protocol that BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #305

Whom am I to believe? You or the Vatican chancellor? nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #312

Please read the article more carefully. BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #325

How about you read the text of the actual press release? riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #332

The press release is from the Academy. BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #336

Ok. Agreed. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #339

One woman's opinion, she feels slighted aintitfunny Apr 2016 #307

Most of the articles that I can see BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #319

The Catholic Church will get no genuflection from me My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #320

Thank God the bishop's letter clarified things showing Ms. Archer's error. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #324

More 'artful smear' Wibly Apr 2016 #326

Uh oh nyabingi Apr 2016 #329

Bernie will be on the world stage speaking out against a corrupt global economy that tolerates raindaddy Apr 2016 #338

Vatican Academy critizes Sanders Monumental Dishonesty wagepeace Apr 2016 #343

Papal official denies report Sanders invited himself to Vatican (Papal aide accuses Archer of lying) w4rma Apr 2016 #352

turns out, it WAS bullshit deacon_sephiroth Apr 2016 #344

thank you! renate Apr 2016 #348

Nooooo.......that Bishop is refusing to say WHO initiated the contact--now, obviously if it was the MADem Apr 2016 #439

This message was self-deleted by its author beastie boy Apr 2016 #346

TYT for debunking exposure Hawaiianlight Apr 2016 #347

Translate this Uponthegears Apr 2016 #361

Another day, another Hillarybot lie. You all should be ashamed. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #364

this has nothing to do with Hillary shireen Apr 2016 #372

It has everything to with Hillarybots. That's what I wrote. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #374

Thank you. NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #412

I think the Hillary people here are being lied to as well LaurenG Apr 2016 #376

I don't doubt it, but they gleefully post about any negative thing on Sanders. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #378

Yep. LaurenG Apr 2016 #380

and this has to do with Hillary, how? kennetha Apr 2016 #401

Wow, you repeat the lie! Bernie didn't lie about anything. The Hillarybots like you did. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #438

Papal official denies report Sanders invited himself to Vatican TubbersUK Apr 2016 #379

The Vatican is not a happy camper on this. Iliyah Apr 2016 #381

This controversy will break DU. rug Apr 2016 #387

The chancellor and the president need to get their stories straight. malthaussen Apr 2016 #390

well, looks like the gullible ones bite the bullet on this one stupidicus Apr 2016 #391

Not laughing at this, elleng Apr 2016 #393

well stupidicus Apr 2016 #400

you and me, too, ellen. This is a train wreck. I haven't seen it so bad in a long time. CTyankee Apr 2016 #435

Yes, yank; so do I. elleng Apr 2016 #436

wonderful! CTyankee Apr 2016 #469

You people need to stop with the constant lies. I hate liars. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #395

Like candidate, like supporters... Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #399

Ahemmmm.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #403

That headline is part of the repeating scroll on Bloomberg TV today, incidentally. (nt) proverbialwisdom Apr 2016 #404

I hate to break it to Archer, but there is no "Catholic vote." Warpy Apr 2016 #405

Should this thread be locked in LBN IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #411

THIS BERNIE SANDERS DEATH STAR HAS GOTTA HAVE A THERMAL EXHAUST PORT SOMEWHERE! Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #416

There was no 'discourtesy', let alone a monumental one. Such drama. polly7 Apr 2016 #418

VATICAN CONFIRMS IT, NOT THE ACADEMY SENT OFFER TO SANDERS Tempest Apr 2016 #422

NO--that invitation was NOT issued by the Vatican--it was issued by the ACADEMY. MADem Apr 2016 #430

"Therefore we cannot say that it is an invitation from the pope, but from a Vatican institution." muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #433

Yeah-YOU should read more, and learn what "autonomous" means! LOL!!!! MADem Apr 2016 #434

The quote is there: the Vatican press office says it's a Vatican institution muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #437

Yeah, the quote is there--the Vatican didn't invite him. smh!!! MADem Apr 2016 #440

Again, you're trying to use the words of American reporters, not the Vatican muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #445

It is an institution that is AUTONOMOUS from the Vatican. THEY say so--not "American reporters" MADem Apr 2016 #450

No, that doesn't say "from the Vatican" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #458

Yeah, I can translate for you... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #423

Uh oh.....turns out your debunk got debunked. MADem Apr 2016 #442

Nice try... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #447

LOL--highest authority? Stop making stuff up! MADem Apr 2016 #452

Monumental Thread Fail dchill Apr 2016 #427

This was debunked long ago. Brooklynite, do you care to disassociate yourself with the lie? DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #429

Not only does he own the lie... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #448

LOL! That sanctimonious post is a keeper, too! MADem Apr 2016 #453

Yes, it was debunked. I don't bother much with people who aren't acquainted with truth. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #454

You clearly don't bother with yourself, then! nt MADem Apr 2016 #456

Synopsis: "I know thou art, but what am I"? Good stuff there, MD. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #457

even if true, so what? yurbud Apr 2016 #431

Well well well.... JesterCS Apr 2016 #441

LOL Reuters is already demoting the Bishop..... Historic NY Apr 2016 #449

another day, another lie. lakeguy Apr 2016 #460

Translate? Basically he invited himself. George II Apr 2016 #462

Wrong noiretextatique Apr 2016 #484

And Archer got shot down. noiretextatique Apr 2016 #482

Story translated: Hogwash. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #488

And he had an audience with the Pope while there. LaurenG Apr 2016 #491