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57. It's possible to ask for an invitation.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 12:19 PM
Apr 2016

At least that's what I get reading between the lines of the OP. If it's not that, then I don't understand what the discourtesy is.

What it could be:
Sanders asked for an invitation and got one. They didn't seek him out.
The Vatican was supposed to announce it first and Bernie jumped the gun.
It could be that this person didn't want him there, but the Pope overruled her. But if that's her issue, it would be poor form to undermine the pope.
She's upset that he's happy to be there.

But inviting a presidential candidate anywhere will always carry the weight of politics.

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oopsy daisy. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #1
Nope, this is bullshit. Go after Bernie when he fucks up, he didnt here. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #61
I highly doubt the Vatican is taking orders from Hillary geek tragedy Apr 2016 #68
The vatican didnt say this. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #75
the woman making these statements is part of the Vatican geek tragedy Apr 2016 #87
Then why did the BBC not even mention it per another post here? Makes no sense. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #104
I'm not a huge fan of the Catholic Church. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #114
Something is wrong here and I think I smell Brock Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #116
This is a dispute between Sanders and the Vatican, specifically the Vatican geek tragedy Apr 2016 #119
There is NO dispute. ONLY one woman telling lies... PatV Apr 2016 #385
Why is her gender relevant? oberliner Apr 2016 #468
Because often women act poorly too. So take your sexist PatV Apr 2016 #486
Huh? oberliner Apr 2016 #487
Surrrrre you were. PatV Apr 2016 #489
That "woman telling lies" is a Vatican INSIDER who goes back THREE POPES. MADem Apr 2016 #472
so Bloomberg is part of the Brock machinery? still_one Apr 2016 #125
This message was self-deleted by its author Bradj5 Apr 2016 #164
National Report is a fake news source oberliner Apr 2016 #233
Oh come ON. That's just asinine! Brock? Wow, that Francis is a real wuss, to get MADem Apr 2016 #245
You might want to walk back on your assertions--neither Hillary Kingofalldems Apr 2016 #291
Assertions? I am mostly playing around, you see i consider all this to be nonsense. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #311
Brock, again! NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #410
It just didnt make ANY Sense at all so mostly for fun I said that, kinda like how Soros Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #413
Okay, sorry NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #414
I was half serious, but at the same time I see all of this as a distraction real liberals dont need. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #415
Ted Cruz is in some ways scarier than Trump NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #417
Much scarier, he is the real thing. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #419
Apparently there are different versions of this creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #202
Hm...interesting. Appears we have a mistranslation of Italian to English... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #221
Prof. Archer is English and that is the language she was speaking in her quote. nt MADem Apr 2016 #255
So if the BBC doesn't mention something NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #408
The Vatican says it did not issue the invitation. The Pontifical Academy did. pnwmom Apr 2016 #195
Yeah, that's exactly what I thought. Another non-scandal smear job. Go Bernie! nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #216
No. The President of that Academy says she only issued the invitation pnwmom Apr 2016 #228
According to Bloomberg (just released) Bernie is in fact speaking. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #256
Because of his lobbying efforts, yes. But if they had known he was in the midst pnwmom Apr 2016 #263
Face it, it was just another in a long string of Clinton Camp hit-job FAILS. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #266
You've gotta be kidding... curiouso Apr 2016 #295
It's possible for them to trick a Papal agency, just like it was possible for them to trick pnwmom Apr 2016 #301
The Pope Prefers Lesbos? MADem Apr 2016 #473
Much like the non-scandal smear job Bernie supporter Jackie threw at Clinton above. Nitram Apr 2016 #275
Just like Bernie got Greenpeace to attack HRC? bigbrother05 Apr 2016 #363
The President of the Academy is the woman who is complaining. I think she feels hoodwinked. nt MADem Apr 2016 #237
The Vatican said it DID offer the invitation Tempest Apr 2016 #421
OK, that was funny!!! MADem Apr 2016 #238
Here is the PRESS STATEMENT from the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences mentioning Bernie CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #127
Thanks. 840high Apr 2016 #141
Thanks. Its weird because if he DID ask, why wouldn't they just say no riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #157
Bernie was asked, he was invited CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #180
Therein lies the question... curiouso Apr 2016 #284
She is Opus Dei. nt Doremus Apr 2016 #485
Thank you, CoffeeCat for the information. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2016 #185
The woman who made the remark is more than some woman with an opinion. MADem Apr 2016 #189
Well, this woman's opinion doesn't seem to be shared by the Academy CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #205
She is the PRESIDENT of the Academy. She IS the Academy. She was APPOINTED by Pope Francis. MADem Apr 2016 #232
Bernie was never slated CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #250
you tell it coffee cat! retrowire Apr 2016 #262
You bet! (nt) CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #368
This is my view--Prof. Archer was saying what the Pope could not say. MADem Apr 2016 #264
Chancellor's are higher in the chain than Presidents usually riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #317
Lady Archer is the Bishop's boss--it's in the bylaws of the Academy. MADem Apr 2016 #474
Come off it--you were calling her a 'conservative bishop' upthread. MADem Apr 2016 #444
Point taken creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #296
The Chancellor invited Bernie on behalf of the President, but the President didn't know a thing MADem Apr 2016 #432
What you've written is essentially an "artful smear" creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #461
Oh horseshit. You don't have a response so you drag out that tired, meaningless little term. MADem Apr 2016 #464
Lady Archer has since said she was misquoted creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #470
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #471
You're wrong creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #475
I gave you the BYLAWS OF THE ACADEMY. You reply with "Bloomberg?" Get over yourself. MADem Apr 2016 #476
I've reported you for incivility creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #477
Shameful alert. I can't believe you admitted to that alert. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #478
You were alerted. ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2016 #479
seems you beat me on reporting without me noticing somehow Bodhi BloodWave Apr 2016 #483
This message was self-deleted by its author Bodhi BloodWave Apr 2016 #480
How is MADem wrong? SunSeeker Apr 2016 #481
You twist facts as much as Hillary ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #409
I saw the press release that said the ACADEMY invited him, not the Pope. MADem Apr 2016 #428
Yes, she's a British sociologist. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2016 #314
Thanks for this. bjo59 Apr 2016 #204
The woman who made the remark is a conservative Bishop..... Grins Apr 2016 #211
The woman is the HEAD of the organization that invited him and is in the position to know pnwmom Apr 2016 #240
You have no evidence that Bernie "begged" for an invitation CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #261
The "one woman" is the HEAD of the org that invited him. She knows the circumstances and pnwmom Apr 2016 #271
There are plenty of important people with vital voices CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #279
You claim that the whole org invited him. What is your basis for saying that? And where does it say pnwmom Apr 2016 #286
Well, clearly one can make deductions CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #375
VATICAN CONFIRMS IT, NOT THE ACADEMY SENT OFFER TO SANDERS Tempest Apr 2016 #424
If she's the HEAD of the organization TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #308
Link? And where does it say the whole organization invited him/ pnwmom Apr 2016 #280
Thank you for the clarification. NikolaC Apr 2016 #302
There are no women bishops in the Catholic Church. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2016 #313
Many reported that she was a conservative bishop CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #331
All Catholic bishops are priests; woman cannot be priests. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2016 #333
Jackie, can you tell us how Hillary had anything to do with this? Nitram Apr 2016 #269
I said Brock, not Hillary. And I may have been wrong, it just seemed ridiculous. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #303
monumental discourtesy? BWAHAHAHA! FROM THE PEOPLE WHO HID PEDOS!? roguevalley Apr 2016 #315
Hillary is jealous. The Pope snubbed her. She'll wine and dine with Goldman Sachs, instead. (nt) w4rma Apr 2016 #335
I doubt she's jealous, Sanders asked to be invited, I imagine geek tragedy Apr 2016 #340
Papal official denies report Sanders invited himself to Vatican (Papal aide accuses Archer of lying) w4rma Apr 2016 #349
I think his time would be better spent in NY if he thinks he has a chance at winning NY nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #353
I don't think you have America's best interests in mind, geek tragedy. (nt) w4rma Apr 2016 #357
Bye. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #359
Papal official denies report Sanders invited himself to Vatican PatV Apr 2016 #350
the Vatican has sent mixed signals. People can say the opposite about what the Vatican has said geek tragedy Apr 2016 #356
Surrrrrre. It's the 'Vatican's' fault. Sure seems funny a papal aide who is head of the organization PatV Apr 2016 #371
"some foreign woman" who happens to be a Vatican official appointed geek tragedy Apr 2016 #377
And she's also a liar meddling into our election and disgracing that 'official appointment' PatV Apr 2016 #382
you are very lucky you changed your wording. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #383
No, only ONE woman. Post the other Vatican official's statements from the 'other' officials who say PatV Apr 2016 #388
she is a Vatican official who heads up the academy hosting the event. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #392
Maybe not for long. I seem to remember something about not telling any lies. PatV Apr 2016 #397
Just so people understand, Archer has been affiliated with the Academy for YEARS. MADem Apr 2016 #446
Nice try. forest444 Apr 2016 #389
I'm at a loss too. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #2
Might be a couple of lines in his interview revbones Apr 2016 #5
Maybe he used the wrong colour notepaper when he replied. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #11
My guess is that the "Vatican Academy" will turn out to be unassociated with the Vatican revbones Apr 2016 #14
Could be. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #25
Bad headline dorkzilla Apr 2016 #38
Yeah. There's some other discussion going on here revbones Apr 2016 #173
Links to website and wiki... Cerridwen Apr 2016 #53
Um, right here... brooklynite Apr 2016 #170
Um, right here... revbones Apr 2016 #172
What is the "Vatican Academy"? revbones Apr 2016 #3
I think this is it, here: Saviolo Apr 2016 #39
Oh, snap! I'm loving this NY version of the campaign more and more. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #4
So do tell. What's the "Vatican Academy" and what was the gaff? nt revbones Apr 2016 #6
Bloomberg apparently considered their opinion worthy of note... Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #27
So you just go around repeating what you don't understand. Got it. nt revbones Apr 2016 #31
Read further down thread, if you want to understand. Dishonest move on Bern's part to wangle Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #66
If he did ask, why wouldn't they have just said no riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #161
Why did the Pope inadvertently "meet" with Kim Davis under false pretenses, Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #242
OP is DEBUNKED! riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #297
"The office of the pope moved quickly to distance the pontiff from Sanders’s visit." Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #322
"This is an invitation from the Vatican" he said. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #328
Did you hear Bern's fake-humble, misleading and disingenuous Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #334
Yes. He never said he was invited by the Pope nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #341
Wrangle an invite? kristopher Apr 2016 #351
Wangle... Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #360
The article clearly identifies it: Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences beastie boy Apr 2016 #41
Yes but she is not part of the vatican she is a professor in the uk dr60omg Apr 2016 #181
She's the President of the Academy, which is part of the Vatican, but she's not part of the Vatican? brooklynite Apr 2016 #193
Margaret Archer is a professor in the UK dr60omg Apr 2016 #398
She's the President of the Academy that invited Bernie. pnwmom Apr 2016 #198
And yet, one must apply to be invited Fiendish Thingy Apr 2016 #231
Apparently you have some info the rest of us don't. jomin41 Apr 2016 #15
No, only Bloomberg's headline: Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #21
So, you're just quoting a headline you don't understand? Got it. revbones Apr 2016 #30
See here...and read down thread. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #117
See here revbones Apr 2016 #167
Oh wait he WAS "invited" revbones Apr 2016 #226
CYA - "he declined to say who initiated the contacts..." Bwaahaaa! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #253
BOOM he pope accepted Bernies request and turned the Clinton's Foundation down flat azurnoir Apr 2016 #107
Actually the Pope had nothing to BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #287
How is seeking an audiance at the Vatican (as opposed to an invite) a monumental FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #7
"Obama invited me to the White House" Igel Apr 2016 #135
I take your point. But here is the actual invite. Looks like they didn't just 'write in FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #152
President Margaret Archer could just have said no if it was Bernie’s request riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #184
She was not contacted about it. BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #300
Spot on! BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #298
Seems a tad odd - why would an Englishwoman be talking about our elections? IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #8
Because she is the President of the Academy he finagled an invitation from pnwmom Apr 2016 #16
Just a tad "off-color" for "His Pureness", don't you think? Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #36
Sorry to tell you but RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #86
Sorry to tell you this but the Vatican already forced one Bishop into retirement for getting them pnwmom Apr 2016 #103
West Virginnie, and the US president race RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #132
This would be an even bigger deal and he would be even LESS likely to want pnwmom Apr 2016 #136
That doesn't make sense creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #99
The U.S. is not at the center of the Vatican's universe, and this has been a very long pnwmom Apr 2016 #110
I'm not familiar with the Kim Davis matter creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #129
You don't speak for everyone in Europe, obviously. And being aware that there is a campaign on pnwmom Apr 2016 #168
Francis doesn't really like us all that much. He thinks we're soft and pampered and jerky. He's MADem Apr 2016 #466
She is blunt and feisty, and most of her jabs are at the right-wing... Blue Meany Apr 2016 #17
Why is that odd. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #19
They believe he is trying to "use" the Pope to get "the Catholic vote." MADem Apr 2016 #24
And who is the "Vatican Academy"? Try googling it. nt revbones Apr 2016 #32
It's the Pontifical Academy--"Vatican" is shorthand. Sanders is going to a conference there. MADem Apr 2016 #46
You have the name wrong. pnwmom Apr 2016 #47
No, I had the name the article originally used. nt revbones Apr 2016 #79
Did you even try googling it before dispensing with your advice? beastie boy Apr 2016 #50
The article said "Vatican Academy" not "Pontifical Acedemy of Science" nt revbones Apr 2016 #76
For god's sake, read the OP! beastie boy Apr 2016 #139
So tell me what changed. Is Clinton speaking at the Vatican now? Nope. nt revbones Apr 2016 #146
Huh? beastie boy Apr 2016 #192
Here's a link that might be relevant. revbones Apr 2016 #165
It has zero relevance unless you document a lie and link it to beastie boy Apr 2016 #187
Pope Francis liberal from boston Apr 2016 #282
Here ya go .... salinsky Apr 2016 #67
The article said "Vatican Academy" not "Pontifical Acedemy of Science" nt revbones Apr 2016 #73
I can explain - 'Vatican' is an adjective, and 'Academy' is a noun muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #147
Sure, explain it some more. Break down all the headlines about Bernie being invited revbones Apr 2016 #162
No, I don't think you're ready for anything more about how to write articles muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #186
Sure. I can admit the headline was misleading and I read it incorrectly. revbones Apr 2016 #197
Disagree. Bringing this topic up as mainstream news IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #91
What topic? MADem Apr 2016 #101
Creating a MORAL economic model, etc. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #109
I think this might shed some light on the matter--not much, but a little MADem Apr 2016 #171
No, he's using this "invitation" to curry the Catholic vote. But he's currying it under pnwmom Apr 2016 #120
I think he's doing it because he CARES about the issue. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #154
I think he's doing it because there are a lot of Catholics in NY and this is free publicity. pnwmom Apr 2016 #158
Well, the fact is he's going to do it. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #190
well, they turn Clinton's many and varied FP failures into success stupidicus Apr 2016 #178
I agree with you. The Wielding Truth Apr 2016 #354
If he asked to be there, why didn't she just say no? riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #176
The Vatican says they didn't invite him. pnwmom Apr 2016 #201
If she were "overridden by someone" she wouldn't have said a word. MADem Apr 2016 #203
Looks like she was overriden. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #310
The Chancellor is subordinate to the President. She's the commander, he's the XO. MADem Apr 2016 #451
The chancellor is a close aide to Frances and a permanent member of the Vatican elite riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #459
And Professor Archer has been a member of the ACADEMY since way before FRANCIS (IS, not ES) MADem Apr 2016 #463
Lol, proving my point that this is a private spat gone public riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #465
Do you not even read? "Temporary Female Hire?" She's been there longer than two Popes! MADem Apr 2016 #467
Pope Francis liberal from boston Apr 2016 #321
Maybe they didn't realize he was going to use this as a campaign event. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #9
Bernie not having a good week. riversedge Apr 2016 #10
Yeah, winning Wisconsin and getting invited to the Vatican isn't good. revbones Apr 2016 #18
I know its a bad week for Bernie gabeana Apr 2016 #90
Yes, but can he recover? NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #230
Sounds like papal politics to me. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #12
Pope Francis liberal from boston Apr 2016 #166
Translation Tempest Apr 2016 #13
^^^DING DING DING ^^^ revbones Apr 2016 #20
Their home page.... MADem Apr 2016 #62
The article at the time said "Vatican Academy" not "Pontifical Academy" revbones Apr 2016 #69
It's all the same thing. The two words are used interchangeably. MADem Apr 2016 #219
Translation: the Vatican doesn't endorse politicos. Bernie snookered them. pnwmom Apr 2016 #23
They didn't realize he was in the middle of a hotly contested campaign? LOL morningfog Apr 2016 #54
well, they did get snookered with kim davis... getagrip_already Apr 2016 #93
^^^ This ^^^ aquamarina Apr 2016 #94
The US and its political campaigns are not at the center of the Vatican' world. Far from it. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #124
They don't have the google there either? That's hilarious! Bernie Snookered them! morningfog Apr 2016 #169
Kim Davis snookered them. How is it surprising to think Bernie could? From a narcissistic pnwmom Apr 2016 #174
SO why would they even extend an invite to this old Jewish guy from Vermont? morningfog Apr 2016 #182
I think Bernie called the Argentine Bishop, with whom he shares certain philosophical approaches, MADem Apr 2016 #455
Translation: She's upset that she wasn't personally genuflected towards Scootaloo Apr 2016 #281
Hahahaha! Pettiness and being bitter fits Clinton supporters perfectly. And since you want to PatV Apr 2016 #288
You're wrong. Will you offer a retraction? Tempest Apr 2016 #420
Bingo jberryhill Apr 2016 #97
Bishop?? Here's who was quoted in the article ... salinsky Apr 2016 #98
So he pretended he got this invitation "out of the blue" when in reality pnwmom Apr 2016 #22
Bingo. nt MADem Apr 2016 #28
According to this person. The truth is unknown, but I see you've already divined what the truth is. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #29
"This person" is the President of the organization and she's speaking for it. That is the truth. pnwmom Apr 2016 #35
That doesn't mean she's telling the truth. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #43
If they HAD initiated the invitation, there's no reason they'd be denying it. But Bernie pnwmom Apr 2016 #52
You assume that they weren't forced to do so by the pope? JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #56
Yes. Because the Pope has made a point in other situations of staying out of 'US politics. pnwmom Apr 2016 #126
Do you have a source for that? creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #121
The MSNBC story. And I agree with you. That's why his claim smelled so fishy. But that's pnwmom Apr 2016 #133
It would be a VATICAN spokesperson not a Professor in the UK dr60omg Apr 2016 #183
This "President" and her comments have been thrashed by her superior, a chancellor CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #369
"This person" is running the conference. I think she might know who wanted to get on the list of MADem Apr 2016 #80
Who you going to believe, the Vatican or this Academy? nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #34
The Academy is the sponsor of the forum Sanders is speaking at. brooklynite Apr 2016 #37
Understood but how do you square this with every other report riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #44
The other reports were speaking loosely. The conference is being held by the pnwmom Apr 2016 #70
I'm going to have to have more than one outlier report on that riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #82
The only report quoting the HEAD of the organization sponsoring the conference pnwmom Apr 2016 #88
She was appointed by Francis ... salinsky Apr 2016 #108
Thanks. Just read that riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #113
If she was so concerned, why not just turn down the request? bigbrother05 Apr 2016 #191
You know the US isn't really the center of the universe. We just think we are. pnwmom Apr 2016 #206
And their press release touted Senator Sanders at #1 on their speakers list bigbrother05 Apr 2016 #355
Because the President of the Academy, who sets the agenda, says otherwise? MADem Apr 2016 #89
Until there's more than one outlier report on this riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #106
To be fair to brooklynite, the wire services may have been taking Sanders' press statement as source JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #40
I am going to believe the Vatican. Or maybe thje Vatican. beastie boy Apr 2016 #55
This isn't a statement from the Vatican. The President of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, pnwmom Apr 2016 #64
Typical conniving pol...his "faux" humility when announcing the invite on Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #150
You mean typical Hillarybot LIES. Archer has been shown to be a liar. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #362
He said, she said...sounds a bit like Bern backtracking on yesterday's "misspeak". LOL! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #366
It's not he said she said. He's her boss. Sounds like more Hillarybot LYING. LOL! BillZBubb Apr 2016 #370
Finally! Small favors, thank god for them...LOL! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #373
Just Sanders pandering for the Catholic vote..... riversedge Apr 2016 #26
Shoulda said he was pushing blanket amnesty for priests. Jerry442 Apr 2016 #33
We have a winner! n/t beastie boy Apr 2016 #60
Sanders asked to be there and they said yes. Renew Deal Apr 2016 #42
Not according to every other news report out there riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #49
It's possible to ask for an invitation. Renew Deal Apr 2016 #57
Agreed. I think we're looking at nuance here riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #71
If that is the case why distort it by claiming they invited him? Iliyah Apr 2016 #77
This is negative spin, designed to lessen Bernie's amazing invitation CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #45
That's right, tell the President of the Academy to quit spinning! beastie boy Apr 2016 #78
Here is the letter that the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences wrote to Bernie CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #111
It appears they are so delighted, they didn't see fit to put Bernie's name on the invitation. beastie boy Apr 2016 #122
This is a formal press statement from the Pontifical Academy of Arts and Sciences CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #142
OK, I am taking your word over that of the President of the Academy. beastie boy Apr 2016 #163
I think it's important to understand the dynamics here CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #196
Still no invitation, or any record of how Bernie obtained it. beastie boy Apr 2016 #217
So who is .... including US Senator Sanders....? It's on the second line. The Wielding Truth Apr 2016 #365
That was unclear until very recently beastie boy Apr 2016 #384
beastie boy, Check into Bernie. Look how his life has been honest. He as been trustworthy. The Wielding Truth Apr 2016 #394
Fascinating how you posted the story (8:49) 10 minutes before its posting (8:59). JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #48
Did you ever doubt it? morningfog Apr 2016 #59
Curiouser and curiouser. Scuba Apr 2016 #72
Probably an updated time on the article Blue_Adept Apr 2016 #74
Nope! They updated the story for real now, and posted a timestamp! JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #84
I run a few different sites myself - nothing of that scale of course Blue_Adept Apr 2016 #96
I edited my post...I initially agreed with you, but now doubt it's the case here. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #102
They didn't just update. They rewrote the entire article. The chancellor disputes her. hedda_foil Apr 2016 #251
Great catch concreteblue Apr 2016 #81
!!! LadyHawkAZ Apr 2016 #105
Bloomberg has redirected their first story to that new page muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #177
OR.....I read Twitter. brooklynite Apr 2016 #224
SNAP! Skittles Apr 2016 #243
They must have had to run the story by the Clinton Campaign to make sure they hit all the points Maedhros Apr 2016 #309
Hmmm, violating a papal protocol vs lying us into an illegal war. Yeah, that balances the scale. Scuba Apr 2016 #51
Hillary lied us into an illegal war? leftynyc Apr 2016 #304
She helped Bush, a lot. Ever hear her impassioned speech, which repeated Bush's lies? Scuba Apr 2016 #316
And more bullshit from leftynyc Apr 2016 #323
Here's Hillary, parroting her "brother" George W. Bush ... Scuba Apr 2016 #330
You can post that leftynyc Apr 2016 #337
So she's gullible? That's how you defend her? Scuba Apr 2016 #342
President has to show good judgment. immoderate Apr 2016 #490
I'd take the Pope's judgement over whomever this is. CanadaexPat Apr 2016 #58
Bernie's speqking at a conference held by the Pontifical Academy of Social Science. pnwmom Apr 2016 #83
Fair enough...show us a quote by the Pope on this matter. brooklynite Apr 2016 #188
This reminds me a bit of the Kim Davis thing hollowdweller Apr 2016 #63
The person that put Davis there was recently fired Renew Deal Apr 2016 #100
'Monumental discourtesy???' PatrickforO Apr 2016 #65
That's an attributed quote Renew Deal Apr 2016 #92
If you found that actual quote please show us. It appears no where in the various updates to the FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #140
It was discourteous to trick the Pontifical Academy into issuing an invitation pnwmom Apr 2016 #148
And you know those two points how? FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #327
Well.. Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #85
No mention of the Hillary camp here beastie boy Apr 2016 #115
That is an absurd comment and I implied NOTHING of the sort. nt. Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #118
You implied the invitation snafu is a consequece of Hillary being upset and trying to smear Bernie beastie boy Apr 2016 #137
No, it isn't... Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #138
Direct quote from your post: beastie boy Apr 2016 #145
The Pope didn't issue the invitation. The Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences pnwmom Apr 2016 #153
They didn't have to issue an invite in the first place. Csainvestor Apr 2016 #95
I think this comment says more about Margaret Archer alcina Apr 2016 #112
She's a liar. PatV Apr 2016 #358
wow, that is a big deal still_one Apr 2016 #123
what a stupid clickbait article... this is truly the silly season Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #128
Vatican Academy/Charm School/Finishing School for Girls? closeupready Apr 2016 #130
If Bernie Sanders showed "monumental discourtesy" shawn703 Apr 2016 #131
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #134
It has. pnwmom Apr 2016 #207
Here's a link to the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences Uponthegears Apr 2016 #143
Our voice jeepers Apr 2016 #144
The point of the harridan's press release can be gleaned from her last sentence,"...not that he will Hoppy Apr 2016 #149
No press release - phone interview. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #159
The Vatican has confirmed that they didn't issue the invitation -- she did. pnwmom Apr 2016 #213
Please define the word "harridan" for us all. scioto99 Apr 2016 #236
Upthread, she was accused of "bitching" and "pitching a hissy fit" displacedtexan Apr 2016 #402
How do we fix it? scioto99 Apr 2016 #443
The whole thing smells of horseshit and I don't think the church would... Bonhomme Richard Apr 2016 #151
do you mean into a better Bernie condemnation than you can come up with? stupidicus Apr 2016 #155
Sanders Aide Disputes Vatican Story on Lobbied Invitation muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #156
The Vatican disputes that. And they would know. pnwmom Apr 2016 #215
The Vatican press office later clarified that it did not issue the invitation . . . Iliyah Apr 2016 #258
No-one claimed the press office issued an invitation muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #260
I did kinda assume that the Pope had heard his stump speech and personally called him to say, scioto99 Apr 2016 #160
The Vatican says they didn't issue the invitation. It came from the Academy run by the woman pnwmom Apr 2016 #225
Too byzantine for me. scioto99 Apr 2016 #241
IN case you were wondering WHO Margaret Archer is dr60omg Apr 2016 #175
And she's the President of the Pontifical Academy that organized the conference. nt pnwmom Apr 2016 #248
The Chancellor of the Academy refutes this dr60omg Apr 2016 #396
Let me get this straight Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #179
He's also getting a quarter million in speaking fees. bluedigger Apr 2016 #290
Bazinga! Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #294
Jealousy is what drove ms. Archer's statement...she needs to go to confession. 4139 Apr 2016 #194
What's she jealous of? Did she suddenly wanna win Oregon? scioto99 Apr 2016 #249
It was/is 'her event' and now Bernie is upstaging here by a million times. And there big media.... 4139 Apr 2016 #273
i would think getting media to crawl all over her event would be a coup. scioto99 Apr 2016 #285
She didn't invite him, she is layperson and President of the group; The Chancellor, a Bishop invited 4139 Apr 2016 #299
i think you're right ... shireen Apr 2016 #367
Where was Hillar's invite? Lars39 Apr 2016 #199
Bloomberg falling in line with the Daily News.. full of shit. nt phazed0 Apr 2016 #200
This message was self-deleted by its author Vilis Veritas Apr 2016 #208
I think the Catholics would have preferred to be left out of the political discussions. Laser102 Apr 2016 #209
Exactly. The Vatican tries to stay out of politics. A Bishop was forced into early retirement pnwmom Apr 2016 #254
Oops. Vatican confirms they invited Sanders Tempest Apr 2016 #426
Fuck the Vatican. It's a corrupt cesspool. Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #210
Another BS fail! liberal N proud Apr 2016 #212
Yep pandr32 Apr 2016 #386
Hillary's invite? Where is that? LaurenG Apr 2016 #214
Hey, anybody on this post want to invite me to dinner? earthmanneil Apr 2016 #218
I'll translate for you deacon_sephiroth Apr 2016 #220
Never Mind Worldly Traveler Apr 2016 #222
When you post in the LBN the instructions say "Use the EXACT TITLE of the article you are posting, Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #223
It's the kind of desperation I've come to expect Cheap_Trick Apr 2016 #235
This was the exact headline at the time I read it. brooklynite Apr 2016 #244
IT HAS TO BE A CONSPIRACY BROOKLYNITE! Skittles Apr 2016 #252
I assumed it was a mis-translation from Latin... brooklynite Apr 2016 #267
Is the story different now? creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #318
Bloomberg have redirected requests to a new page muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #270
The OP tried their best... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #425
Here is the press release from the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences. elleng Apr 2016 #227
If you had to apply, then why did Bernie say on MSNBC that he had just gotten the invitation pnwmom Apr 2016 #246
You think Margaret Archer is a 'conservative Bishop'? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #277
Quote: ":...he should remember that and act accordingly.." Grins Apr 2016 #229
That's how most conferences work. Potential invitees typically first apply and propose their talks. DrBulldog Apr 2016 #234
You don't rise through the ranks in the Vatican unless you're an extreme right-winger. nichomachus Apr 2016 #239
He was never invited to talk to Pope Francis or to the "Vatican" DesertRat Apr 2016 #247
The Vatican disagrees with the economics of the right and the social philosophy of the left. pnwmom Apr 2016 #257
This message was self-deleted by its author Vilis Veritas Apr 2016 #289
I find her much more "discourteous" LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #345
Bernie lied on at least one count beastie boy Apr 2016 #259
OMG! It just keeps getting better and better. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #272
Geez, just be truthful with it. Iliyah Apr 2016 #306
After the Kim Davis imbroglio last BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #283
It's like that Trump thing with the pope. scioto99 Apr 2016 #292
Margaret has her knickers in a twist greymouse Apr 2016 #265
Certainly. The piece has been completely rewritten. Click on your original link. hedda_foil Apr 2016 #268
Breach of protocol involved - BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #274
I bet a lamp or two will be hitting the wall over at Clinton Campaign HQ over this. frylock Apr 2016 #276
More like glasses clinking in a toast DesertRat Apr 2016 #406
Oh, okay. frylock Apr 2016 #407
It's a bad idea to involve the Vatican in American politics. Americans have NCjack Apr 2016 #278
Debunked by a Vatican chancellor riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #293
There is a protocol that BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #305
Whom am I to believe? You or the Vatican chancellor? nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #312
Please read the article more carefully. BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #325
How about you read the text of the actual press release? riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #332
The press release is from the Academy. BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #336
Ok. Agreed. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #339
One woman's opinion, she feels slighted aintitfunny Apr 2016 #307
Most of the articles that I can see BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #319
The Catholic Church will get no genuflection from me My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #320
Thank God the bishop's letter clarified things showing Ms. Archer's error. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #324
More 'artful smear' Wibly Apr 2016 #326
Uh oh nyabingi Apr 2016 #329
Bernie will be on the world stage speaking out against a corrupt global economy that tolerates raindaddy Apr 2016 #338
Vatican Academy critizes Sanders Monumental Dishonesty wagepeace Apr 2016 #343
Papal official denies report Sanders invited himself to Vatican (Papal aide accuses Archer of lying) w4rma Apr 2016 #352
turns out, it WAS bullshit deacon_sephiroth Apr 2016 #344
thank you! renate Apr 2016 #348
Nooooo.......that Bishop is refusing to say WHO initiated the contact--now, obviously if it was the MADem Apr 2016 #439
This message was self-deleted by its author beastie boy Apr 2016 #346
TYT for debunking exposure Hawaiianlight Apr 2016 #347
Translate this Uponthegears Apr 2016 #361
Another day, another Hillarybot lie. You all should be ashamed. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #364
this has nothing to do with Hillary shireen Apr 2016 #372
It has everything to with Hillarybots. That's what I wrote. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #374
Thank you. NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #412
I think the Hillary people here are being lied to as well LaurenG Apr 2016 #376
I don't doubt it, but they gleefully post about any negative thing on Sanders. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #378
Yep. LaurenG Apr 2016 #380
and this has to do with Hillary, how? kennetha Apr 2016 #401
Wow, you repeat the lie! Bernie didn't lie about anything. The Hillarybots like you did. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #438
Papal official denies report Sanders invited himself to Vatican TubbersUK Apr 2016 #379
The Vatican is not a happy camper on this. Iliyah Apr 2016 #381
This controversy will break DU. rug Apr 2016 #387
The chancellor and the president need to get their stories straight. malthaussen Apr 2016 #390
well, looks like the gullible ones bite the bullet on this one stupidicus Apr 2016 #391
Not laughing at this, elleng Apr 2016 #393
well stupidicus Apr 2016 #400
you and me, too, ellen. This is a train wreck. I haven't seen it so bad in a long time. CTyankee Apr 2016 #435
Yes, yank; so do I. elleng Apr 2016 #436
wonderful! CTyankee Apr 2016 #469
You people need to stop with the constant lies. I hate liars. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #395
Like candidate, like supporters... Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #399
Ahemmmm.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #403
That headline is part of the repeating scroll on Bloomberg TV today, incidentally. (nt) proverbialwisdom Apr 2016 #404
I hate to break it to Archer, but there is no "Catholic vote." Warpy Apr 2016 #405
Should this thread be locked in LBN IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #411
THIS BERNIE SANDERS DEATH STAR HAS GOTTA HAVE A THERMAL EXHAUST PORT SOMEWHERE! Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #416
There was no 'discourtesy', let alone a monumental one. Such drama. polly7 Apr 2016 #418
VATICAN CONFIRMS IT, NOT THE ACADEMY SENT OFFER TO SANDERS Tempest Apr 2016 #422
NO--that invitation was NOT issued by the Vatican--it was issued by the ACADEMY. MADem Apr 2016 #430
"Therefore we cannot say that it is an invitation from the pope, but from a Vatican institution." muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #433
Yeah-YOU should read more, and learn what "autonomous" means! LOL!!!! MADem Apr 2016 #434
The quote is there: the Vatican press office says it's a Vatican institution muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #437
Yeah, the quote is there--the Vatican didn't invite him. smh!!! MADem Apr 2016 #440
Again, you're trying to use the words of American reporters, not the Vatican muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #445
It is an institution that is AUTONOMOUS from the Vatican. THEY say so--not "American reporters" MADem Apr 2016 #450
No, that doesn't say "from the Vatican" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #458
Yeah, I can translate for you... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #423
Uh oh.....turns out your debunk got debunked. MADem Apr 2016 #442
Nice try... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #447
LOL--highest authority? Stop making stuff up! MADem Apr 2016 #452
Monumental Thread Fail dchill Apr 2016 #427
This was debunked long ago. Brooklynite, do you care to disassociate yourself with the lie? DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #429
Not only does he own the lie... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #448
LOL! That sanctimonious post is a keeper, too! MADem Apr 2016 #453
Yes, it was debunked. I don't bother much with people who aren't acquainted with truth. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #454
You clearly don't bother with yourself, then! nt MADem Apr 2016 #456
Synopsis: "I know thou art, but what am I"? Good stuff there, MD. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #457
even if true, so what? yurbud Apr 2016 #431
Well well well.... JesterCS Apr 2016 #441
LOL Reuters is already demoting the Bishop..... Historic NY Apr 2016 #449
another day, another lie. lakeguy Apr 2016 #460
Translate? Basically he invited himself. George II Apr 2016 #462
Wrong noiretextatique Apr 2016 #484
And Archer got shot down. noiretextatique Apr 2016 #482
Story translated: Hogwash. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #488
And he had an audience with the Pope while there. LaurenG Apr 2016 #491
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