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JohnnyRingo

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11. Did you pay anything up front?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:17 PM
Apr 2016

When you placed your order did the dealer ask for a thousand bucks for the right to order a Leaf that you'd wait for two years on delivery? I imagine not, but perhaps that's a new way to buy cars. Personally, I don't know anyone who can afford to float a grand on a car they can't see for years to come. I'm not sure I know anyone who knows now what they'll want in two years either.

I even question Tesla's abilty to deliver in two years. GM builds the very popular Chevy Cruze near here in Lordstown Ohio in a state of the art mega plant where they work three continuous shifts to produce about a quarter million units a year. That's a lot of cars and they stretch the limits of production, but Musk apparently plans on outperforming that by a third at his existing plant where X and S models are already built. I hate to doubt Elon Musk on anything he endeavors, but all those deposits may end up being a short term no interest loan to the company if he has to make refunds in two years.

As for the Model E itself, saying it'll sell big because it has mediocre looks isn't much of a selling point to anyone other than those who consider their car no more than a necessary evil (cupholders!). By the company's own account, the real cost with popular options after energy rebates will likely be in the $50k range. Is that really "the people's car" anymore? Most car makers strive to keep their vehicles under $30k because that's the price most working class buyers can swing. A $35k car is considered a luxury conveyance by most Americans.

I'm a car guy, and not only do I buy cars based on how they look, I buy my tools by much the same measure. Snap-On wrenches are the best. There's no way I would own Pontiac Aztec, a Toyota Cube, or a WalMart socket set just because of value. I don't want to limit my driving to nighttime hours when no one will see me.

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Awesome! Melurkyoulongtime Apr 2016 #1
Me Want! Me Want! Avalon Sparks Apr 2016 #2
$325M in down payments. truthisfreedom Apr 2016 #3
That should pay for a quarter or an eighth of the necessary rampup costs. joshcryer Apr 2016 #6
That is impressive. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #4
Something doesn't add up JohnnyRingo Apr 2016 #5
I agree it is impossible. Kokonoe Apr 2016 #7
I don't know about impossible... JohnnyRingo Apr 2016 #8
Well, I was being generous to Tesla. Kokonoe Apr 2016 #18
They are talking about through 2020 to deliver that many rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #31
They will wait. whatthehey Apr 2016 #9
Did you pay anything up front? JohnnyRingo Apr 2016 #11
Yes. Deposits were necessary. whatthehey Apr 2016 #12
I'll not argue a moot point... JohnnyRingo Apr 2016 #15
I get you. Ready4Change Apr 2016 #30
Glad to hear you're an MG guy JohnnyRingo Apr 2016 #35
Nice work if you can find it! :) Ready4Change Apr 2016 #36
Yeah I did this when Smart was introduced to the US jberryhill Apr 2016 #27
If you can't afford to float a grand for a couple of years rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #32
Plenty here in CA PasadenaTrudy Apr 2016 #13
Maybe I'm an idiot to live in Ohio. JohnnyRingo Apr 2016 #16
The alternative is to wait... jberryhill Apr 2016 #28
Yeah, good point JohnnyRingo Apr 2016 #29
Most everything Musk has done has been impossible so far IronLionZion Apr 2016 #17
Electric cars are intrinsically much simpler than ICE cars daleo Apr 2016 #20
I saw a show about the Tesla Super Plant JohnnyRingo Apr 2016 #22
Well, engine pods don't grow on trees daleo Apr 2016 #23
It's probably not worth arguing about... JohnnyRingo Apr 2016 #25
Here's an after market idea daleo Apr 2016 #24
Actually, I think that'll be a must in the near future JohnnyRingo Apr 2016 #26
sort of like the list for packer season tickets dembotoz Apr 2016 #10
How has the resale value on these cars been? Native Apr 2016 #14
Resale value on the Model S has been pretty strong Zorro Apr 2016 #19
Saturn 2.0 nt IamMab Apr 2016 #21
No way rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #33
I have a friend who put a down payment on one of the Model 3s. I just hope Tesla still exists to IamMab Apr 2016 #34
My Saturn still runs great. Maybe it was the owner. Throd Apr 2016 #37
That was the weird thing about Saturns rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #38
I'll have to agree with you there. Throd Apr 2016 #39
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