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375. Well, clearly one can make deductions

Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:20 PM

Apr 2016

Bernie was invited to participate in this conference. Of course, the group that invited him to speak--has to have some sort of consensus that Bernie should be there.

There were many that applied to attend. Not everyone was invited. This is an honor.

It's logical to conclude that the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences invited him and supports his participation, correct?

As for Bernie speaking--of course he will be speaking. The entire reason that Bernie and the rest of these world leaders and researchers are being assembled is to dialog about their areas of expertise. Bernie will be a part of the conversation. I've said that repeatedly.

Yes, he's participating with "other participants."

There are quite a few articles out there that highlight these details, and many others.

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Vatican Academy Criticizes Sanders�s �Monumental Discourtesy� [View all] brooklynite Apr 2016 OP

oopsy daisy. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #1

Nope, this is bullshit. Go after Bernie when he fucks up, he didnt here. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #61

I highly doubt the Vatican is taking orders from Hillary geek tragedy Apr 2016 #68

The vatican didnt say this. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #75

the woman making these statements is part of the Vatican geek tragedy Apr 2016 #87

Then why did the BBC not even mention it per another post here? Makes no sense. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #104

I'm not a huge fan of the Catholic Church. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #114

Something is wrong here and I think I smell Brock Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #116

This is a dispute between Sanders and the Vatican, specifically the Vatican geek tragedy Apr 2016 #119

There is NO dispute. ONLY one woman telling lies... PatV Apr 2016 #385

Why is her gender relevant? oberliner Apr 2016 #468

Because often women act poorly too. So take your sexist PatV Apr 2016 #486

Huh? oberliner Apr 2016 #487

Surrrrre you were. PatV Apr 2016 #489

That "woman telling lies" is a Vatican INSIDER who goes back THREE POPES. MADem Apr 2016 #472

so Bloomberg is part of the Brock machinery? still_one Apr 2016 #125

This message was self-deleted by its author Bradj5 Apr 2016 #164

National Report is a fake news source oberliner Apr 2016 #233

Oh come ON. That's just asinine! Brock? Wow, that Francis is a real wuss, to get MADem Apr 2016 #245

You might want to walk back on your assertions--neither Hillary Kingofalldems Apr 2016 #291

Assertions? I am mostly playing around, you see i consider all this to be nonsense. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #311

Brock, again! NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #410

It just didnt make ANY Sense at all so mostly for fun I said that, kinda like how Soros Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #413

Okay, sorry NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #414

I was half serious, but at the same time I see all of this as a distraction real liberals dont need. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #415

Ted Cruz is in some ways scarier than Trump NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #417

Much scarier, he is the real thing. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #419

Apparently there are different versions of this creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #202

Hm...interesting. Appears we have a mistranslation of Italian to English... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #221

Prof. Archer is English and that is the language she was speaking in her quote. nt MADem Apr 2016 #255

So if the BBC doesn't mention something NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #408

The Vatican says it did not issue the invitation. The Pontifical Academy did. pnwmom Apr 2016 #195

Yeah, that's exactly what I thought. Another non-scandal smear job. Go Bernie! nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #216

No. The President of that Academy says she only issued the invitation pnwmom Apr 2016 #228

According to Bloomberg (just released) Bernie is in fact speaking. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #256

Because of his lobbying efforts, yes. But if they had known he was in the midst pnwmom Apr 2016 #263

Face it, it was just another in a long string of Clinton Camp hit-job FAILS. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #266

You've gotta be kidding... curiouso Apr 2016 #295

It's possible for them to trick a Papal agency, just like it was possible for them to trick pnwmom Apr 2016 #301

The Pope Prefers Lesbos? MADem Apr 2016 #473

Much like the non-scandal smear job Bernie supporter Jackie threw at Clinton above. Nitram Apr 2016 #275

Just like Bernie got Greenpeace to attack HRC? bigbrother05 Apr 2016 #363

The President of the Academy is the woman who is complaining. I think she feels hoodwinked. nt MADem Apr 2016 #237

The Vatican said it DID offer the invitation Tempest Apr 2016 #421

OK, that was funny!!! MADem Apr 2016 #238

Here is the PRESS STATEMENT from the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences mentioning Bernie CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #127

Thanks. 840high Apr 2016 #141

Thanks. Its weird because if he DID ask, why wouldn't they just say no riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #157

Bernie was asked, he was invited CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #180

Therein lies the question... curiouso Apr 2016 #284

She is Opus Dei. nt Doremus Apr 2016 #485

Thank you, CoffeeCat for the information. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2016 #185

The woman who made the remark is more than some woman with an opinion. MADem Apr 2016 #189

Well, this woman's opinion doesn't seem to be shared by the Academy CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #205

She is the PRESIDENT of the Academy. She IS the Academy. She was APPOINTED by Pope Francis. MADem Apr 2016 #232

Bernie was never slated CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #250

you tell it coffee cat! retrowire Apr 2016 #262

You bet! (nt) CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #368

This is my view--Prof. Archer was saying what the Pope could not say. MADem Apr 2016 #264

Chancellor's are higher in the chain than Presidents usually riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #317

Lady Archer is the Bishop's boss--it's in the bylaws of the Academy. MADem Apr 2016 #474

Come off it--you were calling her a 'conservative bishop' upthread. MADem Apr 2016 #444

Point taken creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #296

The Chancellor invited Bernie on behalf of the President, but the President didn't know a thing MADem Apr 2016 #432

What you've written is essentially an "artful smear" creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #461

Oh horseshit. You don't have a response so you drag out that tired, meaningless little term. MADem Apr 2016 #464

Lady Archer has since said she was misquoted creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #470

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #471

You're wrong creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #475

I gave you the BYLAWS OF THE ACADEMY. You reply with "Bloomberg?" Get over yourself. MADem Apr 2016 #476

I've reported you for incivility creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #477

Shameful alert. I can't believe you admitted to that alert. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #478

You were alerted. ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2016 #479

seems you beat me on reporting without me noticing somehow Bodhi BloodWave Apr 2016 #483

This message was self-deleted by its author Bodhi BloodWave Apr 2016 #480

How is MADem wrong? SunSeeker Apr 2016 #481

You twist facts as much as Hillary ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #409

I saw the press release that said the ACADEMY invited him, not the Pope. MADem Apr 2016 #428

Yes, she's a British sociologist. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2016 #314

Thanks for this. bjo59 Apr 2016 #204

The woman who made the remark is a conservative Bishop..... Grins Apr 2016 #211

The woman is the HEAD of the organization that invited him and is in the position to know pnwmom Apr 2016 #240

You have no evidence that Bernie "begged" for an invitation CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #261

The "one woman" is the HEAD of the org that invited him. She knows the circumstances and pnwmom Apr 2016 #271

There are plenty of important people with vital voices CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #279

You claim that the whole org invited him. What is your basis for saying that? And where does it say pnwmom Apr 2016 #286

Well, clearly one can make deductions CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #375

VATICAN CONFIRMS IT, NOT THE ACADEMY SENT OFFER TO SANDERS Tempest Apr 2016 #424

If she's the HEAD of the organization TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #308

Link? And where does it say the whole organization invited him/ pnwmom Apr 2016 #280

Thank you for the clarification. NikolaC Apr 2016 #302

There are no women bishops in the Catholic Church. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2016 #313

Many reported that she was a conservative bishop CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #331

All Catholic bishops are priests; woman cannot be priests. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2016 #333

Jackie, can you tell us how Hillary had anything to do with this? Nitram Apr 2016 #269

I said Brock, not Hillary. And I may have been wrong, it just seemed ridiculous. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #303

monumental discourtesy? BWAHAHAHA! FROM THE PEOPLE WHO HID PEDOS!? roguevalley Apr 2016 #315

Hillary is jealous. The Pope snubbed her. She'll wine and dine with Goldman Sachs, instead. (nt) w4rma Apr 2016 #335

I doubt she's jealous, Sanders asked to be invited, I imagine geek tragedy Apr 2016 #340

Papal official denies report Sanders invited himself to Vatican (Papal aide accuses Archer of lying) w4rma Apr 2016 #349

I think his time would be better spent in NY if he thinks he has a chance at winning NY nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #353

I don't think you have America's best interests in mind, geek tragedy. (nt) w4rma Apr 2016 #357

Bye. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #359

Papal official denies report Sanders invited himself to Vatican PatV Apr 2016 #350

the Vatican has sent mixed signals. People can say the opposite about what the Vatican has said geek tragedy Apr 2016 #356

Surrrrrre. It's the 'Vatican's' fault. Sure seems funny a papal aide who is head of the organization PatV Apr 2016 #371

"some foreign woman" who happens to be a Vatican official appointed geek tragedy Apr 2016 #377

And she's also a liar meddling into our election and disgracing that 'official appointment' PatV Apr 2016 #382

you are very lucky you changed your wording. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #383

No, only ONE woman. Post the other Vatican official's statements from the 'other' officials who say PatV Apr 2016 #388

she is a Vatican official who heads up the academy hosting the event. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #392

Maybe not for long. I seem to remember something about not telling any lies. PatV Apr 2016 #397

Just so people understand, Archer has been affiliated with the Academy for YEARS. MADem Apr 2016 #446

Nice try. forest444 Apr 2016 #389

I'm at a loss too. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #2

Might be a couple of lines in his interview revbones Apr 2016 #5

Maybe he used the wrong colour notepaper when he replied. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #11

My guess is that the "Vatican Academy" will turn out to be unassociated with the Vatican revbones Apr 2016 #14

Could be. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #25

Bad headline dorkzilla Apr 2016 #38

Yeah. There's some other discussion going on here revbones Apr 2016 #173

Links to website and wiki... Cerridwen Apr 2016 #53

Um, right here... brooklynite Apr 2016 #170

Um, right here... revbones Apr 2016 #172

What is the "Vatican Academy"? revbones Apr 2016 #3

I think this is it, here: Saviolo Apr 2016 #39

Oh, snap! I'm loving this NY version of the campaign more and more. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #4

So do tell. What's the "Vatican Academy" and what was the gaff? nt revbones Apr 2016 #6

Bloomberg apparently considered their opinion worthy of note... Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #27

So you just go around repeating what you don't understand. Got it. nt revbones Apr 2016 #31

Read further down thread, if you want to understand. Dishonest move on Bern's part to wangle Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #66

If he did ask, why wouldn't they have just said no riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #161

Why did the Pope inadvertently "meet" with Kim Davis under false pretenses, Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #242

OP is DEBUNKED! riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #297

"The office of the pope moved quickly to distance the pontiff from Sanders�s visit." Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #322

"This is an invitation from the Vatican" he said. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #328

Did you hear Bern's fake-humble, misleading and disingenuous Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #334

Yes. He never said he was invited by the Pope nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #341

Wrangle an invite? kristopher Apr 2016 #351

Wangle... Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #360

The article clearly identifies it: Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences beastie boy Apr 2016 #41

Yes but she is not part of the vatican she is a professor in the uk dr60omg Apr 2016 #181

She's the President of the Academy, which is part of the Vatican, but she's not part of the Vatican? brooklynite Apr 2016 #193

Margaret Archer is a professor in the UK dr60omg Apr 2016 #398

She's the President of the Academy that invited Bernie. pnwmom Apr 2016 #198

And yet, one must apply to be invited Fiendish Thingy Apr 2016 #231

Apparently you have some info the rest of us don't. jomin41 Apr 2016 #15

No, only Bloomberg's headline: Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #21

So, you're just quoting a headline you don't understand? Got it. revbones Apr 2016 #30

See here...and read down thread. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #117

See here revbones Apr 2016 #167

Oh wait he WAS "invited" revbones Apr 2016 #226

CYA - "he declined to say who initiated the contacts..." Bwaahaaa! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #253

BOOM he pope accepted Bernies request and turned the Clinton's Foundation down flat azurnoir Apr 2016 #107

Actually the Pope had nothing to BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #287

How is seeking an audiance at the Vatican (as opposed to an invite) a monumental FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #7

"Obama invited me to the White House" Igel Apr 2016 #135

I take your point. But here is the actual invite. Looks like they didn't just 'write in FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #152

President Margaret Archer could just have said no if it was Bernie�s request riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #184

She was not contacted about it. BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #300

Spot on! BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #298

Seems a tad odd - why would an Englishwoman be talking about our elections? IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #8

Because she is the President of the Academy he finagled an invitation from pnwmom Apr 2016 #16

Just a tad "off-color" for "His Pureness", don't you think? Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #36

Sorry to tell you but RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #86

Sorry to tell you this but the Vatican already forced one Bishop into retirement for getting them pnwmom Apr 2016 #103

West Virginnie, and the US president race RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #132

This would be an even bigger deal and he would be even LESS likely to want pnwmom Apr 2016 #136

That doesn't make sense creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #99

The U.S. is not at the center of the Vatican's universe, and this has been a very long pnwmom Apr 2016 #110

I'm not familiar with the Kim Davis matter creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #129

You don't speak for everyone in Europe, obviously. And being aware that there is a campaign on pnwmom Apr 2016 #168

Francis doesn't really like us all that much. He thinks we're soft and pampered and jerky. He's MADem Apr 2016 #466

She is blunt and feisty, and most of her jabs are at the right-wing... Blue Meany Apr 2016 #17

Why is that odd. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #19

They believe he is trying to "use" the Pope to get "the Catholic vote." MADem Apr 2016 #24

And who is the "Vatican Academy"? Try googling it. nt revbones Apr 2016 #32

It's the Pontifical Academy--"Vatican" is shorthand. Sanders is going to a conference there. MADem Apr 2016 #46

You have the name wrong. pnwmom Apr 2016 #47

No, I had the name the article originally used. nt revbones Apr 2016 #79

Did you even try googling it before dispensing with your advice? beastie boy Apr 2016 #50

The article said "Vatican Academy" not "Pontifical Acedemy of Science" nt revbones Apr 2016 #76

For god's sake, read the OP! beastie boy Apr 2016 #139

So tell me what changed. Is Clinton speaking at the Vatican now? Nope. nt revbones Apr 2016 #146

Huh? beastie boy Apr 2016 #192

Here's a link that might be relevant. revbones Apr 2016 #165

It has zero relevance unless you document a lie and link it to beastie boy Apr 2016 #187

Pope Francis liberal from boston Apr 2016 #282

Here ya go .... salinsky Apr 2016 #67

The article said "Vatican Academy" not "Pontifical Acedemy of Science" nt revbones Apr 2016 #73

I can explain - 'Vatican' is an adjective, and 'Academy' is a noun muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #147

Sure, explain it some more. Break down all the headlines about Bernie being invited revbones Apr 2016 #162

No, I don't think you're ready for anything more about how to write articles muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #186

Sure. I can admit the headline was misleading and I read it incorrectly. revbones Apr 2016 #197

Disagree. Bringing this topic up as mainstream news IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #91

What topic? MADem Apr 2016 #101

Creating a MORAL economic model, etc. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #109

I think this might shed some light on the matter--not much, but a little MADem Apr 2016 #171

No, he's using this "invitation" to curry the Catholic vote. But he's currying it under pnwmom Apr 2016 #120

I think he's doing it because he CARES about the issue. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #154

I think he's doing it because there are a lot of Catholics in NY and this is free publicity. pnwmom Apr 2016 #158

Well, the fact is he's going to do it. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #190

well, they turn Clinton's many and varied FP failures into success stupidicus Apr 2016 #178

I agree with you. The Wielding Truth Apr 2016 #354

If he asked to be there, why didn't she just say no? riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #176

The Vatican says they didn't invite him. pnwmom Apr 2016 #201

If she were "overridden by someone" she wouldn't have said a word. MADem Apr 2016 #203

Looks like she was overriden. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #310

The Chancellor is subordinate to the President. She's the commander, he's the XO. MADem Apr 2016 #451

The chancellor is a close aide to Frances and a permanent member of the Vatican elite riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #459

And Professor Archer has been a member of the ACADEMY since way before FRANCIS (IS, not ES) MADem Apr 2016 #463

Lol, proving my point that this is a private spat gone public riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #465

Do you not even read? "Temporary Female Hire?" She's been there longer than two Popes! MADem Apr 2016 #467

Pope Francis liberal from boston Apr 2016 #321

Maybe they didn't realize he was going to use this as a campaign event. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #9

Bernie not having a good week. riversedge Apr 2016 #10

Yeah, winning Wisconsin and getting invited to the Vatican isn't good. revbones Apr 2016 #18

I know its a bad week for Bernie gabeana Apr 2016 #90

Yes, but can he recover? NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #230

Sounds like papal politics to me. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #12

Pope Francis liberal from boston Apr 2016 #166

Translation Tempest Apr 2016 #13

^^^DING DING DING ^^^ revbones Apr 2016 #20

Their home page.... MADem Apr 2016 #62

The article at the time said "Vatican Academy" not "Pontifical Academy" revbones Apr 2016 #69

It's all the same thing. The two words are used interchangeably. MADem Apr 2016 #219

Translation: the Vatican doesn't endorse politicos. Bernie snookered them. pnwmom Apr 2016 #23

They didn't realize he was in the middle of a hotly contested campaign? LOL morningfog Apr 2016 #54

well, they did get snookered with kim davis... getagrip_already Apr 2016 #93

^^^ This ^^^ aquamarina Apr 2016 #94

The US and its political campaigns are not at the center of the Vatican' world. Far from it. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #124

They don't have the google there either? That's hilarious! Bernie Snookered them! morningfog Apr 2016 #169

Kim Davis snookered them. How is it surprising to think Bernie could? From a narcissistic pnwmom Apr 2016 #174

SO why would they even extend an invite to this old Jewish guy from Vermont? morningfog Apr 2016 #182

I think Bernie called the Argentine Bishop, with whom he shares certain philosophical approaches, MADem Apr 2016 #455

Translation: She's upset that she wasn't personally genuflected towards Scootaloo Apr 2016 #281

Hahahaha! Pettiness and being bitter fits Clinton supporters perfectly. And since you want to PatV Apr 2016 #288

You're wrong. Will you offer a retraction? Tempest Apr 2016 #420

Bingo jberryhill Apr 2016 #97

Bishop?? Here's who was quoted in the article ... salinsky Apr 2016 #98

So he pretended he got this invitation "out of the blue" when in reality pnwmom Apr 2016 #22

Bingo. nt MADem Apr 2016 #28

According to this person. The truth is unknown, but I see you've already divined what the truth is. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #29

"This person" is the President of the organization and she's speaking for it. That is the truth. pnwmom Apr 2016 #35

That doesn't mean she's telling the truth. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #43

If they HAD initiated the invitation, there's no reason they'd be denying it. But Bernie pnwmom Apr 2016 #52

You assume that they weren't forced to do so by the pope? JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #56

Yes. Because the Pope has made a point in other situations of staying out of 'US politics. pnwmom Apr 2016 #126

Do you have a source for that? creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #121

The MSNBC story. And I agree with you. That's why his claim smelled so fishy. But that's pnwmom Apr 2016 #133

It would be a VATICAN spokesperson not a Professor in the UK dr60omg Apr 2016 #183

This "President" and her comments have been thrashed by her superior, a chancellor CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #369

"This person" is running the conference. I think she might know who wanted to get on the list of MADem Apr 2016 #80

Who you going to believe, the Vatican or this Academy? nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #34

The Academy is the sponsor of the forum Sanders is speaking at. brooklynite Apr 2016 #37

Understood but how do you square this with every other report riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #44

The other reports were speaking loosely. The conference is being held by the pnwmom Apr 2016 #70

I'm going to have to have more than one outlier report on that riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #82

The only report quoting the HEAD of the organization sponsoring the conference pnwmom Apr 2016 #88

She was appointed by Francis ... salinsky Apr 2016 #108

Thanks. Just read that riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #113

If she was so concerned, why not just turn down the request? bigbrother05 Apr 2016 #191

You know the US isn't really the center of the universe. We just think we are. pnwmom Apr 2016 #206

And their press release touted Senator Sanders at #1 on their speakers list bigbrother05 Apr 2016 #355

Because the President of the Academy, who sets the agenda, says otherwise? MADem Apr 2016 #89

Until there's more than one outlier report on this riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #106

To be fair to brooklynite, the wire services may have been taking Sanders' press statement as source JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #40

I am going to believe the Vatican. Or maybe thje Vatican. beastie boy Apr 2016 #55

This isn't a statement from the Vatican. The President of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, pnwmom Apr 2016 #64

Typical conniving pol...his "faux" humility when announcing the invite on Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #150

You mean typical Hillarybot LIES. Archer has been shown to be a liar. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #362

He said, she said...sounds a bit like Bern backtracking on yesterday's "misspeak". LOL! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #366

It's not he said she said. He's her boss. Sounds like more Hillarybot LYING. LOL! BillZBubb Apr 2016 #370

Finally! Small favors, thank god for them...LOL! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #373

Just Sanders pandering for the Catholic vote..... riversedge Apr 2016 #26

Shoulda said he was pushing blanket amnesty for priests. Jerry442 Apr 2016 #33

We have a winner! n/t beastie boy Apr 2016 #60

Sanders asked to be there and they said yes. Renew Deal Apr 2016 #42

Not according to every other news report out there riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #49

It's possible to ask for an invitation. Renew Deal Apr 2016 #57

Agreed. I think we're looking at nuance here riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #71

If that is the case why distort it by claiming they invited him? Iliyah Apr 2016 #77

This is negative spin, designed to lessen Bernie's amazing invitation CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #45

That's right, tell the President of the Academy to quit spinning! beastie boy Apr 2016 #78

Here is the letter that the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences wrote to Bernie CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #111

It appears they are so delighted, they didn't see fit to put Bernie's name on the invitation. beastie boy Apr 2016 #122

This is a formal press statement from the Pontifical Academy of Arts and Sciences CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #142

OK, I am taking your word over that of the President of the Academy. beastie boy Apr 2016 #163

I think it's important to understand the dynamics here CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #196

Still no invitation, or any record of how Bernie obtained it. beastie boy Apr 2016 #217

So who is .... including US Senator Sanders....? It's on the second line. The Wielding Truth Apr 2016 #365

That was unclear until very recently beastie boy Apr 2016 #384

beastie boy, Check into Bernie. Look how his life has been honest. He as been trustworthy. The Wielding Truth Apr 2016 #394

Fascinating how you posted the story (8:49) 10 minutes before its posting (8:59). JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #48

Did you ever doubt it? morningfog Apr 2016 #59

Curiouser and curiouser. Scuba Apr 2016 #72

Probably an updated time on the article Blue_Adept Apr 2016 #74

Nope! They updated the story for real now, and posted a timestamp! JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #84

I run a few different sites myself - nothing of that scale of course Blue_Adept Apr 2016 #96

I edited my post...I initially agreed with you, but now doubt it's the case here. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #102

They didn't just update. They rewrote the entire article. The chancellor disputes her. hedda_foil Apr 2016 #251

Great catch concreteblue Apr 2016 #81

!!! LadyHawkAZ Apr 2016 #105

Bloomberg has redirected their first story to that new page muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #177

OR.....I read Twitter. brooklynite Apr 2016 #224

SNAP! Skittles Apr 2016 #243

They must have had to run the story by the Clinton Campaign to make sure they hit all the points Maedhros Apr 2016 #309

Hmmm, violating a papal protocol vs lying us into an illegal war. Yeah, that balances the scale. Scuba Apr 2016 #51

Hillary lied us into an illegal war? leftynyc Apr 2016 #304

She helped Bush, a lot. Ever hear her impassioned speech, which repeated Bush's lies? Scuba Apr 2016 #316

And more bullshit from leftynyc Apr 2016 #323

Here's Hillary, parroting her "brother" George W. Bush ... Scuba Apr 2016 #330

You can post that leftynyc Apr 2016 #337

So she's gullible? That's how you defend her? Scuba Apr 2016 #342

President has to show good judgment. immoderate Apr 2016 #490

I'd take the Pope's judgement over whomever this is. CanadaexPat Apr 2016 #58

Bernie's speqking at a conference held by the Pontifical Academy of Social Science. pnwmom Apr 2016 #83

Fair enough...show us a quote by the Pope on this matter. brooklynite Apr 2016 #188

This reminds me a bit of the Kim Davis thing hollowdweller Apr 2016 #63

The person that put Davis there was recently fired Renew Deal Apr 2016 #100

'Monumental discourtesy???' PatrickforO Apr 2016 #65

That's an attributed quote Renew Deal Apr 2016 #92

If you found that actual quote please show us. It appears no where in the various updates to the FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #140

It was discourteous to trick the Pontifical Academy into issuing an invitation pnwmom Apr 2016 #148

And you know those two points how? FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #327

Well.. Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #85

No mention of the Hillary camp here beastie boy Apr 2016 #115

That is an absurd comment and I implied NOTHING of the sort. nt. Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #118

You implied the invitation snafu is a consequece of Hillary being upset and trying to smear Bernie beastie boy Apr 2016 #137

No, it isn't... Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #138

Direct quote from your post: beastie boy Apr 2016 #145

The Pope didn't issue the invitation. The Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences pnwmom Apr 2016 #153

They didn't have to issue an invite in the first place. Csainvestor Apr 2016 #95

I think this comment says more about Margaret Archer alcina Apr 2016 #112

She's a liar. PatV Apr 2016 #358

wow, that is a big deal still_one Apr 2016 #123

what a stupid clickbait article... this is truly the silly season Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #128

Vatican Academy/Charm School/Finishing School for Girls? closeupready Apr 2016 #130

If Bernie Sanders showed "monumental discourtesy" shawn703 Apr 2016 #131

This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #134

It has. pnwmom Apr 2016 #207

Here's a link to the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences Uponthegears Apr 2016 #143

Our voice jeepers Apr 2016 #144

The point of the harridan's press release can be gleaned from her last sentence,"...not that he will Hoppy Apr 2016 #149

No press release - phone interview. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #159

The Vatican has confirmed that they didn't issue the invitation -- she did. pnwmom Apr 2016 #213

Please define the word "harridan" for us all. scioto99 Apr 2016 #236

Upthread, she was accused of "bitching" and "pitching a hissy fit" displacedtexan Apr 2016 #402

How do we fix it? scioto99 Apr 2016 #443

The whole thing smells of horseshit and I don't think the church would... Bonhomme Richard Apr 2016 #151

do you mean into a better Bernie condemnation than you can come up with? stupidicus Apr 2016 #155

Sanders Aide Disputes Vatican Story on Lobbied Invitation muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #156

The Vatican disputes that. And they would know. pnwmom Apr 2016 #215

The Vatican press office later clarified that it did not issue the invitation . . . Iliyah Apr 2016 #258

No-one claimed the press office issued an invitation muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #260

I did kinda assume that the Pope had heard his stump speech and personally called him to say, scioto99 Apr 2016 #160

The Vatican says they didn't issue the invitation. It came from the Academy run by the woman pnwmom Apr 2016 #225

Too byzantine for me. scioto99 Apr 2016 #241

IN case you were wondering WHO Margaret Archer is dr60omg Apr 2016 #175

And she's the President of the Pontifical Academy that organized the conference. nt pnwmom Apr 2016 #248

The Chancellor of the Academy refutes this dr60omg Apr 2016 #396

Let me get this straight Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #179

He's also getting a quarter million in speaking fees. bluedigger Apr 2016 #290

Bazinga! Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #294

Jealousy is what drove ms. Archer's statement...she needs to go to confession. 4139 Apr 2016 #194

What's she jealous of? Did she suddenly wanna win Oregon? scioto99 Apr 2016 #249

It was/is 'her event' and now Bernie is upstaging here by a million times. And there big media.... 4139 Apr 2016 #273

i would think getting media to crawl all over her event would be a coup. scioto99 Apr 2016 #285

She didn't invite him, she is layperson and President of the group; The Chancellor, a Bishop invited 4139 Apr 2016 #299

i think you're right ... shireen Apr 2016 #367

Where was Hillar's invite? Lars39 Apr 2016 #199

Bloomberg falling in line with the Daily News.. full of shit. nt phazed0 Apr 2016 #200

This message was self-deleted by its author Vilis Veritas Apr 2016 #208

I think the Catholics would have preferred to be left out of the political discussions. Laser102 Apr 2016 #209

Exactly. The Vatican tries to stay out of politics. A Bishop was forced into early retirement pnwmom Apr 2016 #254

Oops. Vatican confirms they invited Sanders Tempest Apr 2016 #426

Fuck the Vatican. It's a corrupt cesspool. Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #210

Another BS fail! liberal N proud Apr 2016 #212

Yep pandr32 Apr 2016 #386

Hillary's invite? Where is that? LaurenG Apr 2016 #214

Hey, anybody on this post want to invite me to dinner? earthmanneil Apr 2016 #218

I'll translate for you deacon_sephiroth Apr 2016 #220

Never Mind Worldly Traveler Apr 2016 #222

When you post in the LBN the instructions say "Use the EXACT TITLE of the article you are posting, Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #223

It's the kind of desperation I've come to expect Cheap_Trick Apr 2016 #235

This was the exact headline at the time I read it. brooklynite Apr 2016 #244

IT HAS TO BE A CONSPIRACY BROOKLYNITE! Skittles Apr 2016 #252

I assumed it was a mis-translation from Latin... brooklynite Apr 2016 #267

Is the story different now? creatives4innovation Apr 2016 #318

Bloomberg have redirected requests to a new page muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #270

The OP tried their best... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #425

Here is the press release from the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences. elleng Apr 2016 #227

If you had to apply, then why did Bernie say on MSNBC that he had just gotten the invitation pnwmom Apr 2016 #246

You think Margaret Archer is a 'conservative Bishop'? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #277

Quote: ":...he should remember that and act accordingly.." Grins Apr 2016 #229

That's how most conferences work. Potential invitees typically first apply and propose their talks. DrBulldog Apr 2016 #234

You don't rise through the ranks in the Vatican unless you're an extreme right-winger. nichomachus Apr 2016 #239

He was never invited to talk to Pope Francis or to the "Vatican" DesertRat Apr 2016 #247

The Vatican disagrees with the economics of the right and the social philosophy of the left. pnwmom Apr 2016 #257

This message was self-deleted by its author Vilis Veritas Apr 2016 #289

I find her much more "discourteous" LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #345

Bernie lied on at least one count beastie boy Apr 2016 #259

OMG! It just keeps getting better and better. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #272

Geez, just be truthful with it. Iliyah Apr 2016 #306

After the Kim Davis imbroglio last BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #283

It's like that Trump thing with the pope. scioto99 Apr 2016 #292

Margaret has her knickers in a twist greymouse Apr 2016 #265

Certainly. The piece has been completely rewritten. Click on your original link. hedda_foil Apr 2016 #268

Breach of protocol involved - BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #274

I bet a lamp or two will be hitting the wall over at Clinton Campaign HQ over this. frylock Apr 2016 #276

More like glasses clinking in a toast DesertRat Apr 2016 #406

Oh, okay. frylock Apr 2016 #407

It's a bad idea to involve the Vatican in American politics. Americans have NCjack Apr 2016 #278

Debunked by a Vatican chancellor riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #293

There is a protocol that BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #305

Whom am I to believe? You or the Vatican chancellor? nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #312

Please read the article more carefully. BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #325

How about you read the text of the actual press release? riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #332

The press release is from the Academy. BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #336

Ok. Agreed. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #339

One woman's opinion, she feels slighted aintitfunny Apr 2016 #307

Most of the articles that I can see BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #319

The Catholic Church will get no genuflection from me My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #320

Thank God the bishop's letter clarified things showing Ms. Archer's error. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #324

More 'artful smear' Wibly Apr 2016 #326

Uh oh nyabingi Apr 2016 #329

Bernie will be on the world stage speaking out against a corrupt global economy that tolerates raindaddy Apr 2016 #338

Vatican Academy critizes Sanders Monumental Dishonesty wagepeace Apr 2016 #343

Papal official denies report Sanders invited himself to Vatican (Papal aide accuses Archer of lying) w4rma Apr 2016 #352

turns out, it WAS bullshit deacon_sephiroth Apr 2016 #344

thank you! renate Apr 2016 #348

Nooooo.......that Bishop is refusing to say WHO initiated the contact--now, obviously if it was the MADem Apr 2016 #439

This message was self-deleted by its author beastie boy Apr 2016 #346

TYT for debunking exposure Hawaiianlight Apr 2016 #347

Translate this Uponthegears Apr 2016 #361

Another day, another Hillarybot lie. You all should be ashamed. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #364

this has nothing to do with Hillary shireen Apr 2016 #372

It has everything to with Hillarybots. That's what I wrote. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #374

Thank you. NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #412

I think the Hillary people here are being lied to as well LaurenG Apr 2016 #376

I don't doubt it, but they gleefully post about any negative thing on Sanders. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #378

Yep. LaurenG Apr 2016 #380

and this has to do with Hillary, how? kennetha Apr 2016 #401

Wow, you repeat the lie! Bernie didn't lie about anything. The Hillarybots like you did. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #438

Papal official denies report Sanders invited himself to Vatican TubbersUK Apr 2016 #379

The Vatican is not a happy camper on this. Iliyah Apr 2016 #381

This controversy will break DU. rug Apr 2016 #387

The chancellor and the president need to get their stories straight. malthaussen Apr 2016 #390

well, looks like the gullible ones bite the bullet on this one stupidicus Apr 2016 #391

Not laughing at this, elleng Apr 2016 #393

well stupidicus Apr 2016 #400

you and me, too, ellen. This is a train wreck. I haven't seen it so bad in a long time. CTyankee Apr 2016 #435

Yes, yank; so do I. elleng Apr 2016 #436

wonderful! CTyankee Apr 2016 #469

You people need to stop with the constant lies. I hate liars. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #395

Like candidate, like supporters... Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #399

Ahemmmm.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #403

That headline is part of the repeating scroll on Bloomberg TV today, incidentally. (nt) proverbialwisdom Apr 2016 #404

I hate to break it to Archer, but there is no "Catholic vote." Warpy Apr 2016 #405

Should this thread be locked in LBN IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #411

THIS BERNIE SANDERS DEATH STAR HAS GOTTA HAVE A THERMAL EXHAUST PORT SOMEWHERE! Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #416

There was no 'discourtesy', let alone a monumental one. Such drama. polly7 Apr 2016 #418

VATICAN CONFIRMS IT, NOT THE ACADEMY SENT OFFER TO SANDERS Tempest Apr 2016 #422

NO--that invitation was NOT issued by the Vatican--it was issued by the ACADEMY. MADem Apr 2016 #430

"Therefore we cannot say that it is an invitation from the pope, but from a Vatican institution." muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #433

Yeah-YOU should read more, and learn what "autonomous" means! LOL!!!! MADem Apr 2016 #434

The quote is there: the Vatican press office says it's a Vatican institution muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #437

Yeah, the quote is there--the Vatican didn't invite him. smh!!! MADem Apr 2016 #440

Again, you're trying to use the words of American reporters, not the Vatican muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #445

It is an institution that is AUTONOMOUS from the Vatican. THEY say so--not "American reporters" MADem Apr 2016 #450

No, that doesn't say "from the Vatican" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #458

Yeah, I can translate for you... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #423

Uh oh.....turns out your debunk got debunked. MADem Apr 2016 #442

Nice try... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #447

LOL--highest authority? Stop making stuff up! MADem Apr 2016 #452

Monumental Thread Fail dchill Apr 2016 #427

This was debunked long ago. Brooklynite, do you care to disassociate yourself with the lie? DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #429

Not only does he own the lie... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #448

LOL! That sanctimonious post is a keeper, too! MADem Apr 2016 #453

Yes, it was debunked. I don't bother much with people who aren't acquainted with truth. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #454

You clearly don't bother with yourself, then! nt MADem Apr 2016 #456

Synopsis: "I know thou art, but what am I"? Good stuff there, MD. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #457

even if true, so what? yurbud Apr 2016 #431

Well well well.... JesterCS Apr 2016 #441

LOL Reuters is already demoting the Bishop..... Historic NY Apr 2016 #449

another day, another lie. lakeguy Apr 2016 #460

Translate? Basically he invited himself. George II Apr 2016 #462

Wrong noiretextatique Apr 2016 #484

And Archer got shot down. noiretextatique Apr 2016 #482

Story translated: Hogwash. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #488

And he had an audience with the Pope while there. LaurenG Apr 2016 #491