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In reply to the discussion: UK PM David Cameron leaves 8-year-old daughter in local pub [View all]Diclotican
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I think it is a difference between the use of protective service, special branch or what ever you want to call it, in a private manner, and the public manner where you are in a governmental position.. In a governmental position you have all the protective service the UK can muster (and they do have a good deal about it, and it is also very potent if need arise) but even a Prime Minister is just a human being, and if no specially danger or treat are in place, they can go almost as everyone else around town... Off course it will be a police man, or a civilian from the security system around and a few arraignments that we do not know about..
In Norway (or at least until 22 july 2011) the prime minister, cabinet ministers, even our king and queen could walk around rather as ordinary people - I have talked to both our King and Queen twice in my life, not in a public setting, but just as we walk on each other out in the woods, around a place where both king and queen like to walk (it was pure accident by the way) Our King is a great person, and we managed to talk for more than 20 minutes before they had to go.. The queen was rather on the stiffy side of things - but she was at least polite. When I came down to the more civilized place again, I was put aside by a plain clothed police officer, who rather politely asked me about what I have being going up there.. I politely told them I was just walking up in the woods, and happened to bump into the queen and king.. Who I happened to talk to, for 20 minutes.. He then ask my some other questioning (most of them I guess they know before as they had my license tag from the car!) But i all happened in a very civilized matter, no choppers, no violence to the ground and the rest.. politely, peacefully, and without any violence it was solved peacefully... And I was let om my way, and they wrote a report about the incident - I bet..
And Norway have also being in the special position, that our prime minister, and the rest of the government, for the most part have had an difference between the public act, and the private one.. We have had Prime ministers who used the bus to job, he lived in a private apartment on the "east side" of the river, even though it was a police car outside his apartment, the whole affair was rather low key and even though everyone know he was the prime minister, it was never any necessarily to put him in a whole fleet of cars when he was around.... Our old King Olav V of Norway even took the tram up to "nordmarka" to go cross country with his dog -under the 1973 oil strike, where petrol was rather controlled here in Norway.. When he was asked if he ever was afraid about walking around like this, without a bodyguard he told "why should I be afraid, I have 4 million bodyguard who would protect me".. He scored a few points there I guess
.. Both he and his father Haakon the 7 got a few point when they was asked this type of questning, and answered like this.. Our current king and qeen, was untill they was crowned king and queen, able to walk around Oslo as ordinary pepole, going to the movies,going to a theater eat on a restaurant and so one.. Sometimes they even do that today - but now with more security than before.. Of course they do had security with them - but it was at least plain cloth and not intrusive to the rest of the capital.. I guess the idea is, that more low key the security is, the more easy is it to not let anyone know that the Queen and King are around town I guess
But of course, it is a difference between a small kindom in the north of europe - and the office of a great power like UK, or USA and so one... And untill 2011 it was not even consivable to do what ABB did in Norway... That would recoil in our county for a long, long time I fear... And Im pretty sure the security around official buldings - and government persons have risen sharply there after...
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