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Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
9. dipsydoodle
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 07:27 AM
Jun 2012

dipsydoodle

I think it is a difference between the use of protective service, special branch or what ever you want to call it, in a private manner, and the public manner where you are in a governmental position.. In a governmental position you have all the protective service the UK can muster (and they do have a good deal about it, and it is also very potent if need arise) but even a Prime Minister is just a human being, and if no specially danger or treat are in place, they can go almost as everyone else around town... Off course it will be a police man, or a civilian from the security system around and a few arraignments that we do not know about..

In Norway (or at least until 22 july 2011) the prime minister, cabinet ministers, even our king and queen could walk around rather as ordinary people - I have talked to both our King and Queen twice in my life, not in a public setting, but just as we walk on each other out in the woods, around a place where both king and queen like to walk (it was pure accident by the way) Our King is a great person, and we managed to talk for more than 20 minutes before they had to go.. The queen was rather on the stiffy side of things - but she was at least polite. When I came down to the more civilized place again, I was put aside by a plain clothed police officer, who rather politely asked me about what I have being going up there.. I politely told them I was just walking up in the woods, and happened to bump into the queen and king.. Who I happened to talk to, for 20 minutes.. He then ask my some other questioning (most of them I guess they know before as they had my license tag from the car!) But i all happened in a very civilized matter, no choppers, no violence to the ground and the rest.. politely, peacefully, and without any violence it was solved peacefully... And I was let om my way, and they wrote a report about the incident - I bet..

And Norway have also being in the special position, that our prime minister, and the rest of the government, for the most part have had an difference between the public act, and the private one.. We have had Prime ministers who used the bus to job, he lived in a private apartment on the "east side" of the river, even though it was a police car outside his apartment, the whole affair was rather low key and even though everyone know he was the prime minister, it was never any necessarily to put him in a whole fleet of cars when he was around.... Our old King Olav V of Norway even took the tram up to "nordmarka" to go cross country with his dog -under the 1973 oil strike, where petrol was rather controlled here in Norway.. When he was asked if he ever was afraid about walking around like this, without a bodyguard he told "why should I be afraid, I have 4 million bodyguard who would protect me".. He scored a few points there I guess .. Both he and his father Haakon the 7 got a few point when they was asked this type of questning, and answered like this.. Our current king and qeen, was untill they was crowned king and queen, able to walk around Oslo as ordinary pepole, going to the movies,going to a theater eat on a restaurant and so one.. Sometimes they even do that today - but now with more security than before.. Of course they do had security with them - but it was at least plain cloth and not intrusive to the rest of the capital.. I guess the idea is, that more low key the security is, the more easy is it to not let anyone know that the Queen and King are around town I guess

But of course, it is a difference between a small kindom in the north of europe - and the office of a great power like UK, or USA and so one... And untill 2011 it was not even consivable to do what ABB did in Norway... That would recoil in our county for a long, long time I fear... And Im pretty sure the security around official buldings - and government persons have risen sharply there after...

Diclotican

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I nearly confused the Sun with that publication that shut down last year, News of the World alp227 Jun 2012 #1
Thanks for the more respectable link! villager Jun 2012 #2
Page 3 of the Sun may be the world's most consistent reporting. sofa king Jun 2012 #11
Page three isn't a women's issue at all, at all . . . enlightenment Jun 2012 #18
You are certainly correct. sofa king Jun 2012 #27
What I liked best about that link is where it says the PM drove back and "found Nancy helping staff" Prometheus Bound Jun 2012 #10
It's not just the PM and wife - you'd think the bodyguards would do a headcount too muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #3
Does he have that level of protection ? dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #4
dipsydoodle Diclotican Jun 2012 #9
I suppose its possible dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #16
dipsydoodle Diclotican Jun 2012 #42
I love your story and your country. Thanks, Diclotican. freshwest Jun 2012 #23
Tram and "Oil Strike"???? happyslug Jun 2012 #34
happyslug Diclotican Jun 2012 #38
I agree with tone of your whole article happyslug Jun 2012 #40
happyslug Diclotican Jun 2012 #41
Hello there... MountainMama Jun 2012 #43
MountainMama Diclotican Jun 2012 #44
love the story of talking to the King & Queen while walking in the park... Swagman Jun 2012 #37
Swagman Diclotican Jun 2012 #39
The Sun story mentions 'bodyguards' muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #12
i'm assuming their security is not at the level of the President of the United States. i wouldn't be JI7 Jun 2012 #5
I think Boner and the Congressional Repubs should schedule a committee hearing. jerseyjack Jun 2012 #13
Slightly better than driving away with her on the roof of the car, I suppose Orrex Jun 2012 #6
Who hasn't done that one or twice? rucky Jun 2012 #7
This is the most I've laughed in a long time!! (nt) harmonicon Jun 2012 #8
oh my.... Marrah_G Jun 2012 #14
The scotch was older than her! KansDem Jun 2012 #15
Last year my cousing ws taking whistler162 Jun 2012 #17
It's official, he's the UK version of Chimpy. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #19
Family values. nt onehandle Jun 2012 #20
He's testifying against Murdoch today unc70 Jun 2012 #21
No he's not dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #25
He's testifying "this week". Original story had said "today". Pub was "several months ago" unc70 Jun 2012 #29
I stand corrected on the pub issue dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #30
Who's in charge of this family's protection? Johnny English? (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #22
Sounds like it dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #26
Apparently the kid has a serious drinking problem and likes to smirkymonkey Jun 2012 #24
Apparently, Mr., and perhaps also Ms., Cameron like to get , um, sloshed, "after lunch at weekends". Ghost Dog Jun 2012 #28
I'd be more concerned if he left her behind at Olive Garden. edbermac Jun 2012 #31
At least he didn't leave her on top of his car? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2012 #32
The irony of it all, is that he has recently proposed parenting classes for other parents LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #33
No child left behind. rug Jun 2012 #35
at least he did not strap her to the roof. iandhr Jun 2012 #36
that is a good point.n/t hrmjustin Jun 2012 #45
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